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He is not that good
but he is the most hardworking trainer ever.

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Pachater always a loser.

Present muna, sir VB..

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There is no doubt that FR is one of the all time great boxing trainers. I don't think Pacman will ascend without him.

But sad to say, Parkinson's is now catching up with Freddie.. Definitely, his effectiveness is significantly decreased because of the disease.

I don't think Pacquiao already reached his plateau with respect to his learning/ improvement potential in his boxing career. He still has 2 to 3 years more to dominate boxing; well, granting that he will focus all his energy in his training and not be distracted by his other obligations.

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“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein

VB you are missing one factor here. A trainer can only train but if trains a boxer that does not produce output during fight, he won't win. the one on top you said about Bobby Pacquiao. I don't see Bobby have the skill of his brother so even though he trains Bobby P. at some he will lose because he does not have the skills. Oscar for exampls, he gave up his jabs and didn't listen. He could win since that was a split decision.

I have the same question like the question about the argument with the compubox numbers. Why do we always look for a perfect man which it is impossible. Its basic! "no body is perfect" There is no such thing as an ideal person.

It is also similar to being an ATG is not always having a perfect record.

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If MP and Roach has still room for improvement this thread will be non existent.LOL

Well if he has distractions that is his problems!

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Character is develop.

Lazy? I don't think he is Lazy. He is maybe one of the hard working coach there is. Despite his illnes he is still able to give Pacquiao a great training.

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“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein

ano daw? ,, langya yabang na arrive mo pre.. you got a point but not enough/nor has substance to discredit roach..
....need to read and read.. coz people learn from it...

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Universe's most important facts " the Law of Attraction"....

Thanks for calling me that "LOSLOS" greeting..But Mr.ButikingKangkarot
you didn't read what I wrote?..O.K. read it now...

Freddie Roach is a Lazy trainer,. he is receiving 10% trainers Fee..He trained his No.1 ward only 2 months, while Roger Mayweather trains FloydJr 7 months, 2 months in his house and 5 months in the LasVegas gym and Nacho Beristain Trains Juanita in the rugged mountains of Mexico for 5 months.....he trained Pascman for 2 months while 7 months training of Floyd and 5 months training of Juanita....so butiks its not laziness to you?.......God Bless You maski ButikingKangkarot Pinoyski parin...

Miss Ramoneneng..why did you ask?..Oh' I forgot you're "MAURIRAT" and you're only shamming, pretending that you're interested in boxing but in reality you're just a plain FIESTA QUEEN of Paticul Sulo and Landi-ing and Karingking is your favorite pastime...God bless to the Ex-Field LadyCommander of Bin Laden who was also a "BAKLADEN"...

Sir "Lifer" ..you think Freddie Roach is one of the best trainer of all time..right?..now answer it..if Pacman is not a Boxer who is his Number 1 pupil now?...Julio Cesar Chavez?..soon he will be an ex-Champ after Maravilla will destroy him...Sir..kindly read this ...

Read this write-up:
“That's the reason why I don't watch news,” Diaz would say upon hearing of Roach's bold proclamations. “Thats the reason why I don't read stuff. Because I don't want to know. And if I know, it doesn't bother me. I know what I got and I know in what shape Timothy is. What mentality he is in. They can talk all they want. I don't care. At the end of the day, Freddie's not going to be in the ring fighting Bradley; it’s going to be Pacquiao.”

And while Ricky Hatton may have once been considered the number one junior welterweight on the block, Diaz insists he was past his peak and out of true fighting shape by the time Pacquiao got to him.

“Yeah, he did knock out Ricky Hatton, but come on, it’s Ricky Hatton,” Diaz stated. “After Mayweather knocked him out, Ricky Hatton was no longer the same. This guy blows up to 180, 190 pounds and then he makes 140; he loses everything on the scale. In order for you to get knocked out the way Manny Pacquiao knocked out Ricky Hatton, you’ve got to be hydrated. Because, if you’re hydrated, you will knock get knocked out like that. You can tell that knock out had a lot to do with hydration.”

Never one to typically talk trash or belittle anyone, Diaz still felt the need to continue returning fire.

“I respect every person, every trainer, that dedicates time to a fighter. But personally, myself, I feel he’s been an overrated trainer,” Diaz would say of Roach. “There’s only so much he can do. I just think that if Manny Pacquiao had landed in the United States with any other trainer, he would have made another trainer famous. Because it was Manny Pacquiao who made Freddie Roach famous, not Freddie Roach [who] made Manny Pacquiao famous.”........God Bless

Sir Duke of Marin County, good morning come and visit your County..the most beautiful County in California...God Bless Amigo

Sir Mekalengut...mangulangut ka muna and ..don't call Mr. Crush ng Bayan, "mayabang"..why kampi ka sa American than a fellow Filipino Paclander...read this so you won't call us mayabang.....

Mr.Roach emphasized always the "PUNCHING POWER" of Pacman.and.he always gave predictions..Cotto in 2nd round, Pac/Jmm 2&3..in 6 and 8 rounds and a knockout in 4 rounds win of Pacman over Bradley...

We don't discredit Freedie Roach but he is not good..but just below average trainer..here are our proofs


Fighters who Lost under the Guardianship of Freddie Roach

English †Amir Khan Light Welterweight ..lost to Lamont Paterson
Filipino Manny Paquiao Welterweight...lost to Tim Bradley
Filipino Bernabe Concepcion Featherweight ..Lost to Puertorican
American Oscar dela hoya Light Middleweight..lost to Mayweather
American *Bernard Hopkins Light Heavyweight ..lost to Joe Calzaghe
Filipino Bobby Pacquiao Lightweight....lost to mexican
American *Brian Viloria Flyweight ......Lost to Mexican.
Filipino Diosdado Gabi Bantamweight ..lost mexican
Filipino †Gerry Peñalosa Bantamweight .Lost .mexican Deleon
Mexican †Israel Vasquez Super Bantamweight...Lost Rafael Marquez
American †James Toney Heavyweight..never win a Belt under the tutelage of Freddie
American † Michael Moorer Light Heavyweight ..Lost to Foreman
American Peter Manfredo Jr. Middleeight ...lost to American Fighter
Filipino Rey Bautista Featherweight ..lost to mexican Deleon
Filipino Z Gorres Super Flywei ..lost to mexican
Mexican Jorge Laniera..Lost his crown last month
Mexican Julio Cesarb Chavez Middleweight champ..soon be Ex- Champ after Sergio martinez beats Him

So Freddie Roach is the greatest Trainer of all time..Right?

Sir...here is the tissue ..use this when you "pick" your nose...God Bless..

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