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Sir ConCon, which fighters you are referring??....what about the fighters who won their title from other trainer but when the hired Freddie they Lost( they hired Freddie Nagtitipid)..best example Oscar, when he vfought Floyd Mayweather jr...his trainer Floyd senior was asking 6 millions bcoz DeLahoya will be fighting Floyd Jr..so the father asked a bigger trainers fee..Oscar became greedy and hired Roach for 1 million but so he lost...lots of fighters lost their crowns bcoz they hired a Low Class Trainer..Frederick Roach....read below who are those Boxers...

He is a below average Trainer thats why the Pacman/JMM 3 and Pacman/ Bradley Bouts became controversials....what you can expect of Freddie, he was formerly employed in "Boston Tire Service" his primary Jobs to Inflate Tires..with that experience he also Inflated PACMAN'S TiTLES to 8..and 2 of that Crowns are the Magazine Belts....Since Pacman became Feather and Superfeather Team Pacquiao avoided Black Fighters, first is the Latino Black Joan GuZman and when he went up in weights in Lightweight and Superlightweight TeamPacquiao ducked Black Americans, namely..Tim Bradley ( agreed to fight only last june 9),Nate Campbell, Lamont Paterson,Kendal Holts, and Devon Alexander, also TeamPacquiao Ducked the 2 Blacks, Andre Berto of Haiti and Junior Witter of U.K.

Mr.Roach Typical Training Regimen and his Offensive/Defensive Style.
1.Pacman got a short training regimen, which is the reason why from Pacman/Juanita 2 and JPacman/uanita 3, Pacman/Cotto, Pacman/Margarito and Pacman/Bradley the Filipino ran our of gas in those bouts...Pacman decisioned only and didn't K.O.Margarito bcoz of stamina problem and not able to finish the Mexican while Cotto with a good training regimen T.K.O. Margarito
2.He didn't teach the Pacman how to fight "INFIGHTING" his Ace Pupil doesn't know how to deliver "UPPERCUT", how to "CLINCH" and "Hit and Hold Tactics... in Pacman/Bradleyy , Pacman just let Bradley..deliverd body Shots, absorved it as if nothing happened at all but Judges scored it for Bradley
3.He taught Pacman the Rope a Dope and also the Peek a Boo (copied by Amir Khan thats why he lost to Lamont Peterson) style wherein the 2 Arms covered the Face in attack or in defense..Its rope a dope stance that Pacman got Broken EarDrum in his bout with Cotto, with Margarito he received damaging Body Blows and also this style enabled his opponents to get some points mostly body blows.
4.Mr.Roach emphasized always the "PUNCHING POWER" of Pacman.asnd.he always gave predictions..Cotto in 2nd round, Pac/Jmm 2&3..in 6/8 rounds and a knockout win of Pacman over Bradley..He didn't give importance and SharPen (Ali,SugarRay,and FloydJr. honed their speed by running 30 miles backward) the other Arsenal of Pacman, the "BLISTERING SPEED". If not with this speed Pacman can't win against Juanita, Dela Hoya, and Margarito..
5.He is a Lazy trainer,. he is receiving 10% trainers Fee..He trained his No.1 ward only 2 months, while Roger Mayweather trains FloydJr 7 months 2 months in his house and 5 months in the LasVegas gym and Nacho Beristain Trains Juanita in the rugged mountains of Mexico for 5 months...Roach is no very bright..in short..TUP..TUP..he was not able to solved rthe Formula of Nacho the "HEAD SHIFTING"(bob & weave) or HEAD DUCKING" it was the reason why Juanita..didn't hit the canvas and also this head shifting was copied by Bradley..

The Bottomline if Pacman won't get another.. TRAINER/ADVICER he got no chance of beating FLOYDJR. and his fights with Juanita and Bradley will wind up as controversial again.......God Bless MODS and also your Family

You don't get it. Why you always look at their current status. Of course they lost they're last fight. But have you ever counted this fighter's winning with Freddy Roach? Except for dela hoya. Don't discredit Roach because they lost in their last fight. Why won't you observe carefully with their carriers under Freddy Roach.

lol.. sana bawiin yung mga binigay na awards kay Roach at yung ibibigay pa para di sayang tong pinag paguran mo post mo..


trans: go VB!! go Vb go VB vo VB... to coach FR, please listen to VB.. lol lol lol

Sir ConCon Delegate..can you name names of these Fighters whom Freddie Trained and became a chasmpion...and be carefull I got 489 Britishmag and Ringmag..I don't want to Lampaso you bcoz you're one of the Jewels of Pacland.....God Bless You

Atty.Nabas Romney..you're in bartolina..how come you Pop-up....Read this Attorney..

Fighters who Lost under the Guardianship of Freddie Roach

English †Amir Khan Light Welterweight ..lost to Lamont Paterson
Filipino Manny Paquiao Welterweight...lost to Tim Bradley
Filipino Bernabe Concepcion Featherweight ..Lost to Puertorican
American Oscar dela hoya Light Middleweight..lost to Mayweather
American *Bernard Hopkins Light Heavyweight ..lost to Joe Calzaghe
Filipino Bobby Pacquiao Lightweight....lost to mexican
American *Brian Viloria Flyweight ......Lost to Mexican.
Filipino Diosdado Gabi Bantamweight ..lost mexican
Filipino †Gerry Peñalosa Bantamweight .Lost .mexican Deleon
Mexican †Israel Vasquez Super Bantamweight...Lost Rafael Marquez
American †James Toney Heavyweight..never win a Belt under the tutelage of Freddie
American † Michael Moorer Light Heavyweight ..Lost to Foreman
American Peter Manfredo Jr. Middleeight ...lost to American Fighter
Filipino Rey Bautista Featherweight ..lost to mexican Deleon
Filipino Z Gorres Super Flywei ..lost to mexican

So Freddie Roach is this the greatest Trainer of all time

Sir JewelBoy-Kinod, maayong buntag bay..hai man atong amigo na si SugarMaple..nag-vacation ba sa cebu??... god bless bay and your family

Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, but it was Teddy Atlas and NOT Freddie Roach who was Michael Moorer's trainer when Moorer lost his title to George Foreman.

He is a below average Trainer thats why the Pacman/JMM 3 and Pacman/ Bradley Bouts became controversials....what you can expect of Freddie, he was formerly employed in "Boston Tire Service" his primary Jobs to Inflate Tires..with that experience he also Inflated PACMAN'S TiTLES to 8..and 2 of that Crowns are the Magazine Belts....Since Pacman became Feather and Superfeather Team Pacquiao avoided Black Fighters, first is the Latino Black Joan GuZman and when he went up in weights in Lightweight and Superlightweight TeamPacquiao ducked Black Americans, namely..Tim Bradley ( agreed to fight only last june 9),Nate Campbell, Lamont Paterson,Kendal Holts, and Devon Alexander, also TeamPacquiao Ducked the 2 Blacks, Andre Berto of Haiti and Junior Witter of U.K.

Mr.Roach Typical Training Regimen and his Offensive/Defensive Style.
1.Pacman got a short training regimen, which is the reason why from Pacman/Juanita 2 and JPacman/uanita 3, Pacman/Cotto, Pacman/Margarito and Pacman/Bradley the Filipino ran our of gas in those bouts...Pacman decisioned only and didn't K.O.Margarito bcoz of stamina problem and not able to finish the Mexican while Cotto with a good training regimen T.K.O. Margarito
2.He didn't teach the Pacman how to fight "INFIGHTING" his Ace Pupil doesn't know how to deliver "UPPERCUT", how to "CLINCH" and "Hit and Hold Tactics... in Pacman/Bradleyy , Pacman just let Bradley..deliverd body Shots, absorved it as if nothing happened at all but Judges scored it for Bradley
3.He taught Pacman the Rope a Dope and also the Peek a Boo (copied by Amir Khan thats why he lost to Lamont Peterson) style wherein the 2 Arms covered the Face in attack or in defense..Its rope a dope stance that Pacman got Broken EarDrum in his bout with Cotto, with Margarito he received damaging Body Blows and also this style enabled his opponents to get some points mostly body blows.
4.Mr.Roach emphasized always the "PUNCHING POWER" of Pacman.asnd.he always gave predictions..Cotto in 2nd round, Pac/Jmm 2&3..in 6/8 rounds and a knockout win of Pacman over Bradley..He didn't give importance and SharPen (Ali,SugarRay,and FloydJr. honed their speed by running 30 miles backward) the other Arsenal of Pacman, the "BLISTERING SPEED". If not with this speed Pacman can't win against Juanita, Dela Hoya, and Margarito..
5.He is a Lazy trainer,. he is receiving 10% trainers Fee..He trained his No.1 ward only 2 months, while Roger Mayweather trains FloydJr 7 months 2 months in his house and 5 months in the LasVegas gym and Nacho Beristain Trains Juanita in the rugged mountains of Mexico for 5 months...Roach is no very bright..in short..TUP..TUP..he was not able to solved rthe Formula of Nacho the "HEAD SHIFTING"(bob & weave) or HEAD DUCKING" it was the reason why Juanita..didn't hit the canvas and also this head shifting was copied by Bradley..

The Bottomline if Pacman won't get another.. TRAINER/ADVICER he got no chance of beating FLOYDJR. and his fights with Juanita and Bradley will wind up as controversial again.......God Bless MODS and also your Family

ayna apo, kaano aya nga makitak datoy VB nga datoy ta pateltelak man wenu kugtarak ti ukel ukel na tapnu ag nakem... lol


Trans: VB, ,sorry cant understand and speak cebuano, im from north...