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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:04 pm 
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Bob Arum gave Manny Pacquiao only 3 choices for his November 10 fight...

Rematches with any of the Following:

1. Manny Pacquiao vs Timothy Bradley II
2. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez IV
3. Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto II

These are all recycled fights! And Manny Pacquiao has already beaten them all. The reason why Bradley was chosen by the two judges to win eventhough Manny Pacquiao clearly dominated the fight was because Bob Arum wants him to remain relevant for Pacquiao fights. As we all know, Bob Arum is running out of oponent for Manny Pacquiao.

The Pacman only has 2 to 3 more fights left before he retires. Why not try new fighters like Brandon Rios or Canelo Alvarez. Pacquiao vs Rios will be a very good match-up because they are both agressive fighters. Bradley kept on running away from Pacquiao in the later rounds that made the fight so boring. We have all the reason to believe that Bradley will do the same thing if ever they will have a rematch that will make the fight doubly boring...

what do you think Paclanders...?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:08 pm 
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Manny Pacquiao vs Canelo Alvarez will also be a very good match up.

But I don't think that Canelo's promoter is ready to risk their fighter fighting the Pacman!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:11 pm 
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If Bob Arum was really sincere when he said that he did not conspired with the judges...

therefore he should not put Bradley as one of Manny Pacquiao's choices for the November fight!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:16 pm 
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C'mon man....you don't need to go this low....I know this last two weeks has been tough.....just let it go. 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Pacman Needs a Warmup...

Bring on PACQUIAO VS. ARCE...


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:59 pm 
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JCOOL2329 wrote:
C'mon man....you don't need to go this low....I know this last two weeks has been tough.....just let it go. 8)


I've already let it go...I've accepted the fact that Tim Bradley is a WBO champion that the WBO itself does not recognizes...

But base on the 3 options given by Bob Arum...who would you choose?

I choose none...I'd rather see Pacquiao fight someone like Rios or Canelo!


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Take ur medicines, guys!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:02 pm 
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pixelpoint wrote:
Pacman Needs a Warmup...

Bring on PACQUIAO VS. ARCE...


Pacquiao only has 2 to 3 more fights left...no time for warm ups...

who would you choose among those 3 recycled fighters presented by Bob Arum?

Rios is a Top Rank fighter..so why not include him in the equation?


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CPK-MB wrote:
JCOOL2329 wrote:
C'mon man....you don't need to go this low....I know this last two weeks has been tough.....just let it go. 8)


I've already let it go...I've accepted the fact that Tim Bradley is a WBO champion that the WBO itself does not recognizes...

But base on the 3 options given by Bob Arum...who would you choose?

I choose none...I'd rather see Pacquiao fight someone like Rios or Canelo!

Rios is not at Pac's level.....Canelo is with GBP.....My best option for Pac is either with JMM then go after Bradley.....but in two conditions....one being that Pac must never agree to fight in Vegas and second he must go down to his comfortable weight.....its evident that he's losing his speed the more heavy he gets.....but as we know he hasn't broken that spell for that Slob Arum.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:06 pm 
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I would definitely not choose Juan Manuel Marquez...

I would rather want to see Manny Pacquiao to retire than to fight JM Marquez again for the fourth time. Pacquiao has already beaten this guy in the trilogy, there's nothing more to prove.

Marquez's fans are saying that whenever a southpaw and an orthodox fights, foot-stepping happens a lot!
They are trying to justify why Juan Manuel Marquez stepped on Manny Pacquiao's foot 17 times
when they fought for the third time last Nov. 12. They also added that even Pacquiao stepped on
Marquez's foot once in the first round!

But then again, how come that foot stepping never happened in Pacquiao vs Marquez I and II...??
And on the third fight, how come Manny Pacquiao stepped on Marquez's foot only once and Marquez did it 17 times?!
Clearly, It shows that Juan Manuel Marquez and Nacho Nacho Baristain have planned, and pre-meditated on that kind of
cheating during the course of Marquez's training!

Yes, we all know that Manny Pacquiao is a southpaw and we always see him fight orthodox boxers most of the time. But nobody among his previous opponents have stepped on his foot 17 times. Even if we combined all the foot stepping that happened in Pacquiao's entire career, still it won't reach 17 times! Therefore, how can these Marquez's fans explain this foot stepping of 17 times that happened only in one fight if it's not a blatant cheating?! Juann Manuel Marquez knows that Pacquiao's foot speed is one of his best assets and he wants to nullify that by doing his dirty tactics of 17 times of blatant cheating!

I have seen that kind of cheating before. Foot stepping aims to immobilize the opponent to catch him off guard.
Marquez knows that one of Pacquiao's best assets is the great foot speed. That's why he want's to nullify Pacquiao's
advantage by cheating through foot stepping! Marquez is not afraid to do all the kinds of dirty tactics just to secure a win over Manny Pacquiao. But I always believe that a cheater like Juan Manuel Marquez will never win against Manny Pacquiao!

Through the entire course of their trilogy, the Nevada state athletic commission has assigned a totally different sets of judges every time they fight. And Juan Manuel Marquez has accused the judges of robbery each time! He does not respect the judges decision and he does not respect his opponent. Juan Manuel Marquez has never gave credit to Manny Pacquaio throughout the entire course of this trilogy!

Ideally, Manny Pacquiao has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez three times already. Judge Burt Clemens admitted after the fight of scoring 10/7 instead of 10/6 in favor of Manny Pacquaio he knocked Marquez down three times in the first round of their first fight! So, ideally, the record book should show Pacquiao 3 wins 0 loss against Marquez!

Officially, Manny Pacquioa has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez two times already against one draw in their trilogy. Whichever you think of it, ideally or officialy, Pacquiao has clearly emerged victorious in the Pacquiao vs Marquez trilogy. Therefore, fourth fight is really unnecessary!

But Juan Manuel Marquez has never accepted his defeat. He never gave credit to Manny Pacquiao for the hard work that Pacquiao has put into in this trilogy. Marquez has been so arrogant that he even went to the Philippines telling the Filipino people that Pacquiao has robbed him of the victory twice...and now thrice! Marquez is very disrespectful and has a very unsportsmanlike conduct!


The arrogance of Juan Manuel Marquez is so obvious in his recent interviews. He has been so vocal about his demand if ever there will be quadrilogy, which is very unnecessary. Marquez wants Pacquiao to accept that he lost the fight, vacate the WBO welterweight world championship belt and declare the fight a no contest. Marquez also demands to be paid no less than 10 million dollars, and that the fight must be held in Mexico! These are so outrageous demands!

Last Nov. 12 fight, Jaun Manuel Marquez deliberately stepped on Manny Pacquiao's foot 17 times, he punched Pacquiao at the kidney area and at the hips area many times, he threw low blows,head butts, and rabbit punches. Marquez is a blatant cheater, he is a sore loser, a cry baby, and a very arrogant and disrespectful!

When Manny Pacquioa lost to Eric Morales, the Filipino people never criticized Morales but instead gave credit to him for being a better boxer than Pacquiao. I personally got sad, but I never got mad at El terrible. Because I know Morales has beaten Pacquiao fair and square. Morales is a gentleman of the sport, respectful, and is a very good sportsman! I would rather see Eric Morales beat Pacquiao 10 times than the cheater Marquez beat Pacquiao once!


I have to admit that the third fight was close,and so were the previous two fights. But the judges have given the victory to Manny Pacquiao for being the aggressor, busier fighter, and plus the fact that he is the champion. Jaun Manuel Marquez back peddaled all night, and never really did anything to threaten the champion to unseat his crown. Whether people agree with the decision or not, we just have to respect the judges decision.

Manny Pacquiao does not deserve the disrespect shown by the Mexican people after the fight. After all, he is not the one who said that he won the fight, it was the judges! All that Manny Pacquiao did was to come in the ring and fight, and to perform for the people. Pacquiao does not deserve the ridicule from the people whom Manny Pacquiao himself wants to give a good show!

The Mexican people has been so disrespectful at Manny Pacquiao. They became so unruly in the MGM grand. They booed Pacquiao during interviews. They threw water bottles, soda cans, coins, crumpled papers, etc. They forgot the fact that Pacquiao is just a fighter, he is not the judge! Now, imagine what would the Mexican people throw at Pacquiao if ever the fight will be held in Mexico and Manny Pacquiao will again emerge victorious in another close fight!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:35 pm 
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I believe Cotto beat Mayweather last May 5th...
Bradley was dominated by Pacquiao from pilar to post except in the eyes of Duane Ford and CJ Ross ...
I would rather see Pacquiao figth Canelo or Rios or any belt holder at 147 lbs except Bradley. Boxing fans are sick and tire of these rematches especially if it involves runners like Bradley and Marquez!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:38 pm 
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CPK-MB wrote:
If Bob Arum was really sincere when he said that he did not conspire with the judges...

therefore he should not put Bradley as one of Manny Pacquiao's choices for the November fight!

Err, what if Pac is making the choice ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:39 pm 
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Dodong Alicaba wrote:
I believe Cotto beat Mayweather last May 5th...
Bradley was dominated by Pacquiao from pilar to post except in the eyes of Duane Ford and CJ Ross ...
I would rather see Pacquiao figth Canelo or Rios or any belt holder at 147 lbs except Bradley. Boxing fans are sick and tire of these rematches especially if it involves runners like Bradley and Marquez!

Rios ?
The fat dude who got a gift win at 135 ( overweight ) in his last fight ?
Cotto won 4 rounds at best.
Canelo's belt is at 154. Pac's not going up there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:40 pm 
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I like to see this fight... and easy to make since both are under TR compare to Canelo-Pac.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:44 pm 
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Who is Rios?

Is he the one running away from Gesta?

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