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Something is quite in the wrong place these days. This is not really a choice between a good and bad Manny Pacquiao but a deeper look at what motivates him best as far as his drive and passion for his boxing career are concerned.

When he had less fortune in the bank, throwing a lot of it in gambling, womanizing, drinking, partying, any vice you name it, and spending a lot of money keeping an entourage of leeches. We still forgave him because he always delivered his best on the big night. There was so much fire in him, a beast with an eternal game face once the bell sounded. To hell if Ampatuan, Singson and other notorious politicians/company were in tow to raise his hands.

When Manny announced his new found faith, openly expressing his beliefs, he divided the house. Some fans saw it as the dead end sign while others thought it wouldn't matter. He would still be the beast once he put on his gloves. Was he? Age and prime are convenient excuses why he isn't the same fighter he used to be but a possessed natural killer instinct wouldn't just disappear with a mere flick of a hand unless some strong outside force is holding him up. This new life is changing and influencing him to be a better person but it's taking away his fire at the same time. His heart isn't there anymore, something is eating him up and it's a lot worse than his wicked, wicked ways. You may agree or disagree but his new religion, though it does good for men most of the time, is helping him to lose his edge.

Sinner or Saint?
Retire or continue fighting?

If you made that statement cuz he lost to Bradley then you've just wasted your time writing your opinion......Manny won that fight but man's deceits is credited with the outcome.

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i would understand it a lot better if you say to me that his passion and determination for the sport are still the same because it's not.
Yes, he beat Bradley but what else have you observed other than the controversial decision and two bouts prior?

People get old and you feel as if Manny will still be Manny of old.....which is unfair, he took many steps to get where he's at today....in terms of climbing weight class....so in essence he had to change something or sacrifice his speed in order to be on this weight class that he's in......if he stayed dialed towards at a 140-143 lbs. frame we might've seen a different Pacquiao in his last three fights.......but like I said he's maybe seeing his ultimate peak in boxing where we might never see the same Manny that we're so use to seeing.

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Jordan Unreal ! ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjMgtnXQMc <----
“People ask me if I could fly, I said, "yeah.... for a little while."”
---- Michael "Air" Jordan

when a boxer gets old, he loses his speed and reflexes but power and natural killer instinct are the last to go. I would accept that Manny is not in his prime anymore but it's not the one that's holding him back to go all out for the finish. He had Bradley hurt in the early rounds when his legs were still fresh but he didnt press hard enough.

All in all I believe it's his weight period.....he has to adjust to his added mass whereas he was comfortable with his weight when he battled Cotto per se......Age may play a role but you simply can't blame his newfound faith due to his lack of progression.

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Jordan Unreal ! ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjMgtnXQMc <----
“People ask me if I could fly, I said, "yeah.... for a little while."”
---- Michael "Air" Jordan

Does it matter TS? The old Pac we once knew even in the middle of training finds time to do
earthly activities which were clearly a distraction and now with his new found faith here come the pastors in & out of his camp. Good or bad intention but we can still classify those as distraction as long as they don't set it in proper place and time.

It's very difficult to bring back the old warrior Pac because father time already caught Manny.
Maybe and we hope the best thing Manny can do and even Fredie is clean up the house and
once more impose a stricter house rules during the training. But then again all of these are all
Manny's call, he's not anymore the old Pac we know that the only focus is boxing. He has too
many things in mind now.

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He's (Pac) being insulted and accused of wrongdoing because he's so good. - Larry Merchant

I dont have to quote what Roach has to say about that but its not helping Manny. This distraction is affecting him mentally. His resolve and his fire. It's not physical nor the weight, when a relentless boxer suddenly feels compassion in his drive for victory, the problem is mental.

Great post, the answer to your own question is provided by you also.

Or you mean the answer to your thread

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He's (Pac) being insulted and accused of wrongdoing because he's so good. - Larry Merchant

Your answer, though on point a little bit, doesn't tell everything. Point being, it matters and this distraction is a cause for worry more than anything he dealt with in the past.

Pacquiao is a fat cat now. I don't think the previous Pac who
still wants to make a name for himself and take care of the
business at hand would make his boxing opponent and the PPV
and paying audience wait for him to finish watching a basketball
game championship before he fights. This was unthinkable then.
[The judges were none too happy because of his antics.]

Age and body metabolism differences between someone in his 20s
and someone in his 30s are a given. The punishment of a warrior's
body is taking its toll.

While the Pacquiao then was focused only in boxing and his vices
the Pacquiao now is focused not only in boxing but also his other job
as a politician, his passion of the moment, that is, religion, and the
burden of the cult of celebrity. There are more sycophants now,
elbowing each other out of the way, to feed on the scree of his
fame and oftentimes, misguided generosity.

Pacquiao has succeeded in his quest for wealth and ring fame.
Along the way, he earned his dues as well as accumulated more
baggage.

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Either is fine as long as he disciplines himself to sleep early.

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neither. i want the motherf ucka with his old killa instinct...

If we're honest with ourselves, there's a little of both in all of us.

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