Pacland's Philippine Boxing Forum

thanks for the update elmod...

until contracts is not signed... there is still some changes to come...

First off, what's wrong with catchweight? Welterweight is officially at 141-147 pounds. 144 lbs. or any number, including, and between 141 and 147 lbs. is STILL Welterweight. If people are going to be too "technical" about this, then all weigh-ins should be done right before the fight. Just right before the fighters go inside the ring.

Second; 3 catchweight fights, even if they are title fights, do not merit Pacquiao to be branded as a catchweight king in such a bad light. Cotto and Margarito fought Pacquiao at a catchweight of 145 lbs. and 150 lbs. (151?) respectively, but they both outweighed him SIGNIFICANTLY during the fight. Margarito was 17 lbs. heavier than Pacquiao during the fight, for crying out loud! That's two divisions heavier.

Third; MP-JMM III was at a catchweight of 144 to accomodate Marquez's supposedly "lighter" weight since he is the current Lightweight champion. In the weigh-ins, Pacquiao weighed 143 and Marquez 142. The catchweight limit wasn't even reached by both. Come fight night, Marquez actually weighed more at 150 lbs. compared to Pacquiao's 148lbs.

If MP-JMM IV will be at catchweight again, it wouldn't matter. As both fighters will virtually weigh the same during the fight night.

Catchweight or not, I'm already excited about this fight.

SINO bang nagpa-umpisa nitong catchweight???...I think this was never heard in olden era. Sinong nagpa-uso ngayon? If so, is this the way of making pacman 8 world championships diff. weight classes legitimate???..OMG..this is another controversial issue. Thatswhy the brits wont consider pacman 8 diff. weight classes champion BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OF THESE CATCHWEIGHTSSSS.

as you know, catchweight king manny pacquiao chose his main rival juan manuel marquez on dec 8th for their fourth meetings...

will be this on a catchweight bout???

Catchweight or not, Pacquiao fcked these "CHAMPIONS" up. Call him anything you want, TS, look at his resume. Plus, all these fighters that fought him at these catchweights knew what they were signing up for. they're not dumb. It was their hands that signed the contract.

The traditional rules in boxing provides that a fighter should weigh not more than the limit on the day of the fight. Taking advantage of day before the fight weigh-ins, bigger fighters are able to replenish their bodies and weigh much bigger on fight night. It's legal and therefore, the quotation marks.

so there is no need to address them as 'cheaters'. as far as the 'new' rules of weighing fighters of today, if the fighter make the weight a day before the fight, they are fighting fair and square as per the rules, hence calling them cheaters is uncalled for.

What's in a name? Cheating legally is still cheating!!

Mayweather signed for a 144 lbs catchweight with Marquez but came in at 146. He 'legally' paid Marquez a specific fine which Marquez could not reject at that point and accepted just to go on with the fight. Who can say that calling Floydie 'cheated the weights' is 'uncalled for'.

you've just set a different example, yes pbf cheated on that one as he did not followed the agreed weight and everyone knows it, but if he managed to trim down to 144, nobody can claim he cheated but we all know he have advantaged over to jmm. rules are rules. if you do not follow, you are a cheater, if you do follow, we'll, nobody can call you a cheat even if you have a big advantage over your opponent.