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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:43 pm 
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JCOOL2329 wrote:
I'm not gonna buy anything on what Pac is saying......it remains to be seen if he wants to prove a.nything.


yep.. walk the talk.. pac

no need to yap 8)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:08 pm 
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Yep as boxers age, they talk more. . .
Still a fan tho :D


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:32 pm 
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He must start building up his STAMINA... play the hoops everyday!!! :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:53 pm 
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spinmasta_25 wrote:
There you go... Manny just gave his official warning to Marquez. I can feel it, it's going to be a short night for Marquez.

http://www.toprank.com/videos/erasing-d ... cisive-win

Manny has been proclaiming it since their first fight. Di pa kayo natuto. :biglaugh:
Pac can never KO JMM. Hay naku. :biglaugh:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:09 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
They said that the last time too.
I think he should start planning how to outsmart JMM.
Going for the KO gets him in more trouble ( lunging with the left all night ? ).

Fight JMM from the outside like how he fought Oscar.
Go for the kill when JMM is worn out late in the fight .


Uppercuts!!
More of it. Marquez has already mastered the art of dodging the straight lefts.
When he gets close, Pacquiao should unleash that stuff but not too wide as he did in round 8 of the 3rd fight.
Compact and crisp, that's the key. Marquez usually ducks under his punches most of the time.

Bobbing and weaving, peek a boo style, as Manny inches his way in is not a bad way to cut off the ring.
Diaz and Katsidis had their moments in closing the gap with Marquez. And more shots to the body to tire the old man out. Because if he doesn't, he'll burn out by overextending, missing so many shots and playing catch up guy all the time.


Demsey Roll ala Makunochi :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:24 am 
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He should re-watch his recent fights and see when he connects well. Most of the time it is when he punches the same time JMM does. He has to move his head though for the straight right to miss. Don't try to outbox JMM. Just hit with him. SABAYAN. That's how chin Khan lost to Garcia. Sinabayan siya at siya ang nayari.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:30 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
They said that the last time too.
I think he should start planning how to outsmart JMM.
Going for the KO gets him in more trouble ( lunging with the left all night ? ).

Fight JMM from the outside like how he fought Oscar.
Go for the kill when JMM is worn out late in the fight .


Pacquiao never predicted a KO among his fights. He always says, it will be a good fight and he will try his best to make people happy. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT HE PREDICTED TO KO HIS OPPONENT AND SPECIFICALLY TO MARQUEZ. This is a good thing that he finally say something and I am looking forward and excited to see if he can really execute of what he promised to us. I hope he will say something like this to ex-con American Blackfloyd or something that will challenge him such as he is scared and coward and tons of excuses to avoid him.
If he will KO Marquez as he promised, this will send a message to ex-con American Blackfloyd and to those Pachaters that he is the Greatest Boxer Of The world in this era and no one else.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:46 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
batang kamuning wrote:
i want to hear from him " if I can't ko marquez then i will resign from boxing"

I didn't know Pac was gainfully employed as a boxer.

Retire, you mean.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:52 am 
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Lildevalt wrote:
Bobbing and weaving, peek a boo style, as Manny inches his way in is not a bad way to cut off the ring.
Diaz and Katsidis had their moments in closing the gap with Marquez. And more shots to the body to tire the old man out. Because if he doesn't, he'll burn out by overextending, missing so many shots and playing catch up guy all the time.



I like the idea of Pacquiao getting close without necessarily jabbing at the same time. The jabbing just signals JMM to counterpunch which is most of the time effective because Pac is somehow open because he just punched. Let JMM try to punch him first when he is closer and then sabayan niya. The KD in the second fight, JMM was attacking and Pac countered. The 10th round wobble was a punch Pac threw habang umiiwas sa suntok ni JMM. Sinabayan niya. Many of the connects in the third fight ganoon din.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:01 am 
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Sargo wrote:
Lildevalt wrote:
Bobbing and weaving, peek a boo style, as Manny inches his way in is not a bad way to cut off the ring.
Diaz and Katsidis had their moments in closing the gap with Marquez. And more shots to the body to tire the old man out. Because if he doesn't, he'll burn out by overextending, missing so many shots and playing catch up guy all the time.



I like the idea of Pacquiao getting close without necessarily jabbing at the same time. The jabbing just signals JMM to counterpunch which is most of the time effective because Pac is somehow open because he just punched. Let JMM try to punch him first when he is closer and then sabayan niya. The KD in the second fight, JMM was attacking and Pac countered. The 10th round wobble was a punch Pac threw habang umiiwas sa suntok ni JMM. Sinabayan niya. Many of the connects in the third fight ganoon din.

The jab is the hardest punch to counterpunch.
Pac getting close w/out jabbing has not worked in 3 fights.
JMM just slides away from Pac's left, then Pac is a sitting duck.
Gets nailed trying to square up again.

Pac's hands are slower now too while JMM's body punching has improved.
Pac NEEDS the jab.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:01 am 
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Very simple strategy to make the fight shorter.

Plan a victory concert/party 10mins after the first round bell rings. :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:22 am 
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Sargo wrote:
Lildevalt wrote:
Bobbing and weaving, peek a boo style, as Manny inches his way in is not a bad way to cut off the ring.
Diaz and Katsidis had their moments in closing the gap with Marquez. And more shots to the body to tire the old man out. Because if he doesn't, he'll burn out by overextending, missing so many shots and playing catch up guy all the time.



I like the idea of Pacquiao getting close without necessarily jabbing at the same time. The jabbing just signals JMM to counterpunch which is most of the time effective because Pac is somehow open because he just punched. Let JMM try to punch him first when he is closer and then sabayan niya. The KD in the second fight, JMM was attacking and Pac countered. The 10th round wobble was a punch Pac threw habang umiiwas sa suntok ni JMM. Sinabayan niya. Many of the connects in the third fight ganoon din.


Basic principle in closing the distance is punching while advancing. Jab sets Pacquiao up for the following combinations. Moving closer without doing anything allows Marquez to tee off before Manny does. One thing, it disrupts Pacquiao's rhythm and he needs to reset all over again. By the time it happens, it's back to square one because Marquez has already created the same distance. Imagine a punching bag tied on a zipline, that's how Manny is going to look like.

Sabayan is a good idea. It's something Manny MUST do once he gets close. That's his only chance of inflicting serious damage. But it would be very difficult to get to that stage if Manny hasn't established the proper distance. Jab is hard to counterpunch because Manny is also cocked up to unleash his power shot behind that. The counter punches usually happen after Manny misses with his overextended left straight. that's because he's not within his punching range.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:30 am 
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@ Sargo

Review all the four knockdowns....
Each time, the fatal left shot was always preceded by a jab.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:17 am 
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Lildevalt wrote:
@ Sargo

Review all the four knockdowns....
Each time, the fatal left shot was always preceded by a jab.


Exactly bro. It did work before. Not anymore. Telegraphed. Watch the good connects of the third fight.

Even Bradley knew that the left straight comes after the jab.

He needs to mix it up. Why do the same thing that has not been working lately?

I'd use the jab to bait JMM. Let him counter tapos sabayan. But the double-jab straight isn't working anymore.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:50 am 
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Watch the 3rd fight, second round alone will show this:

When Pac jabs, most of the time, short step back or duck by JMM. Expecting the left.

2:10 Pac connects with the left not preceded by a jab, sabay sa suntok ni JMM. Same with 0:34.

JMM does counter Pac's jab 1:39

Pac just covers. looks bad. Instead na sumabay at 1:18 and 0:56.

Sarap maging miron.


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