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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:11 am 
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Lucky is when the guy is at the brink of unconsciousness and just instinctively threw a punch, and land and knocked the opponent out.

When you're aiming for something and hit it, there is nothing lucky about it.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:14 am 
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It was really a lucky punch. Marquez: I know he is going to knock me out anytime, then the opportunity came 1 second left his opponent fumbles, he is not supposed to make a punch it was his opponent who came right in. He did not create that opportunity it was his opponent mistake.

Anybody can add words to what he said, anybody can conclude the way he say it. Kulang na lang sabihin ni Marquez swerte lang talaga malas nya.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:26 am 
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Get over it! he lost and he is taking it like a true champ! I still don't think that Marquez is clean, but that is how corrupt boxing is. They all need to do year round testing if they want a level playing field. time to move on and watch Nonito this saturday to see if Arce is also stronger from the "training" with memo.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:38 am 
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The purpose of training is to train your muscles to react
instinctively and accordingly in a given situation. That is
why you repeat and repeat and repeat until it becomes
second nature.

Marquez trained hard on how he will respond simulating the
possible scenarios a reckless Pacquaio will bring. He did
this for months under the watchful eyes of Beristain. He
added power in his punches because of his s & c.

The situation presented itself in the closing seconds of round 6.
Marquez's counter that KO'd Pacquiao was a result of his training.

You don't leave your chances to luck when you train well.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:27 am 
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The "LUCK" here is not in the hitting, but in the fact that Manny didn't see the punch and got KO-ed where normally, he doesn't get knocked down, much less get KO-ed.

They always hit each other with perfectly timed punches and Marquez is the one that gets knocked down...that is the norm. This time however, manny didn't respond nicely to the unseen punches. Maybe the ability to absorb a strong punch is not there anymore for Manny.

Pacquiao had Marquez hurt and would continue to do so until that fateful blunder. If Marquez was the one beating and bloodying Manny , it wouldn't be called lucky.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:48 am 
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ako_barok wrote:
The purpose of training is to train your muscles to react
instinctively and accordingly in a given situation. That is
why you repeat and repeat and repeat until it becomes
second nature.

Marquez trained hard on how he will respond simulating the
possible scenarios a reckless Pacquaio will bring. He did
this for months under the watchful eyes of Beristain. He
added power in his punches because of his s & c.

The situation presented itself in the closing seconds of round 6.
Marquez's counter that KO'd Pacquiao was a result of his training.

You don't leave your chances to luck when you train well.

"You don't leave your chances to luck when you train well" .
If you are a sportsman and competing in a certain kind of game there are things you will do especially when you already lose some getting knockdown 4 times bothering you for years, demoralizing your chances. Sportsman will pray to win, some will cheat, some will train hard, and some will say I hope I will be lucky this time (sana swertihin).


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:20 am 
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Icecream wrote:
dami ko kc nakikitang word na "lucky punch" dito.

I don't think it was a lucky punzzz.
imho it was calculated, a product of long hard training.
peace. im just bein honest here. no hates pls.


http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-test ... rview.html


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:21 am 
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If you are a regular Joe who has been slaving the years slogging to
the salt mine, demoralized by a low-paying job, getting frustrated
each day, and trying to save a diminished self-esteem, you have a
few options. You can pray that things go better, you can work harder
and hope to get promoted, you can look for a different job, you can
go back to school (on loan) to better your intelligence cache or skill,
you can rob a bank, or you can buy a lotto ticket and cross your
fingers that you'll get lucky this time (sana suwertihin).

BTW, you don't need to shout. I can still understand what you say
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gin03 wrote:
ako_barok wrote:
The purpose of training is to train your muscles to react
instinctively and accordingly in a given situation. That is
why you repeat and repeat and repeat until it becomes
second nature.

Marquez trained hard on how he will respond simulating the
possible scenarios a reckless Pacquaio will bring. He did
this for months under the watchful eyes of Beristain. He
added power in his punches because of his s & c.

The situation presented itself in the closing seconds of round 6.
Marquez's counter that KO'd Pacquiao was a result of his training.

You don't leave your chances to luck when you train well.

"You don't leave your chances to luck when you train well" .
If you are a sportsman and competing in a certain kind of game there are things you will do especially when you already lose some getting knockdown 4 times bothering you for years, demoralizing your chances. Sportsman will pray to win, some will cheat, some will train hard, and some will say I hope I will be lucky this time (sana swertihin).

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:27 am 
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Icecream wrote:
dami ko kc nakikitang word na "lucky punch" dito.

I don't think it was a lucky punzzz.
imho it was calculated, a product of long hard training.
peace. im just bein honest here. no hates pls.

t'was an ambush punch i guess :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:33 am 
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Icecream wrote:
dami ko kc nakikitang word na "lucky punch" dito.

I don't think it was a lucky punzzz.
imho it was calculated, a product of long hard training.
peace. im just bein honest here. no hates pls.





bugbog sarado si Marquez, basag na ang mukha hirap na huminga..then last seconds sa rd 6...lucky punch na...
si Manny hindi naman nabugbog ng husto...malinis ang mukha walang galos...hehehhe

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:44 am 
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jamsky wrote:
radeon wrote:
jamsky wrote:

oh and heredia was there to enhance him naturally.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
pinagyabang pa ngang binigyan niya mga olympians at direchahang sinabing undetectable.

malinis po si lance armstrong kasi palaging negative ang results niya. hehehehe



Are you serious bro?

Isn't it that they tried to link PAC on roids before but they didn't find anything.

Marquez is a very discipline fighter I think. He is dedicated to boxing and his hard work paid off.

Marquez won fair and square. Just give him credit for his victory.

I'm a pacfan but not a pactard.


There's no reason for them to accuse Manny of doing PEDs.
Juanita is the one who have a notorious drug dealer on his side.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:52 am 
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jamsky wrote:
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What result? They're very lucky to find anything in the test...



That's what I mean. I don't think JMM is on some kind of roids or whatever.


So an athlete specially a boxer who's ready to retire can all of the sudden become so much stronger and better than his prime... Does that make any sense to you..?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:59 am 
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All punches are entitled to be lucky because of the possibility to be avoided. If Manny saw that punch coming it would not land. If it was not a lucky, the first attempt of Marquez must land from the very first round. Marquez camp could say it's effective and devastating if. So it's a lucky punch as long as there's "if."


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:02 am 
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Barabarabay wrote:
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It's more like a "steroid pop"....
Steroid can make an athlete more accurate. Ask Barry Bonds and McGwire... They were breaking world record.... :D

A lot of people here are still naive...


peds made them stronger and probably quicker to react, but accuracy for the most part comes from natural talent and acquired skill and not from peds.


Baseball players needs accuracy to hit a home runner... It doesn't matter how strong you are but if you cant hit the ball it's useless... Bonds and McGwire are perfect example of those who were using PED's, and they were hitting home runs... So yes, the accuracy can definitely be enhance. That's why it's called "Performance Enhancing Drugs"...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:06 am 
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Lucky indeed , Pacman commit mistake.

It was a lucky punch .

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