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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:02 pm 
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The retired Lewis said: “It ­depends on how Pacquiao reacts to the loss.

“Is he a broken man or can he ­admit he made a mistake in the ring and build on that?

“A loss can make you look at ­yourself in a way that victory ­cannot. It gives you a feeling that inspires you to be better.

“Gladiators need to experience setbacks ­because if you can come back from them it shows just how great you are.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/inthering/vi ... -in-Manny/


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:15 pm 
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The man is speaking from experience. Remember that he was knocked out by Rahman. He bounced back and knocked him out also in the rematch, then Tyson and Vitali Klitschko also suffered the same fate, although Vitali's I believe was stopped (TKO) because he was badly cut. He retired a winner, Pacquiao can do the same.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:41 pm 
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I totally agree with Lenox Lewis...Manny Pacquiao can bounce back!

Lenox Lewis is one of the greatest heavyweight boxer in the history of boxing. I rank him up there with Muhammad Ali, Foreman, Joe Luis, Ken Norton...


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:44 pm 
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Lennox Lewis doen't look like a boxer to me. Actually, he look gay to me. Anyway what he said was inspiring.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:15 am 
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yes he can. he was not physically beaten in that fight. just a single punch did it all. he can have two more farewell fight and retired. with the age catching him up, he will be a little different fighter but excitement wise, he still up there for the fans.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:21 am 
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...if he can give up politics, showbiz, etc. and go back to being a full-time boxer then probably yes.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:37 am 
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ORIENTMANJU wrote:
yes he can. he was not physically beaten in that fight. just a single punch did it all. he can have two more farewell fight and retired. with the age catching him up, he will be a little different fighter but excitement wise, he still up there for the fans.


age? or politics? or late night bible studies? Yes he can bounce back, i believe..


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:01 am 
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spoken wi wisdom, Lennox Lewis had a part in Oceans 11 before the first Rachman fight , he and Wladimir Klitscho are in it for a boxing scene , both guys got kayoed not soon after but bounced back, roy jones, antonio tarver lose to Hopkins right after the rocky movie, mirko cro cop all was in movies and politics, all these guys started doing show business earn some money fromtheir fame and eventually would lose t


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:10 am 
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Why as if pacquiao was already declining? not at all, its just because of the one punch that hit him everybody thought pacmans career was done? Its like basketball, if you failed to defend well your oponent can have the opportunity to shoot...And that happened to manny.. A fight which he was actually winning...


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:35 am 
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He is not Ricky Hatton who basically gave up on everything, got fat, and even got himself into rehab for alcohol. This is Manny Pacquiao who congratulated his opponent after the knockout, apologized his fans for the loss, and stated that "we will rise again." Don't count Pacman out just yet. He's an animal with his back against the wall who will do nothing but fight for him and for his people. Go Pacman!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:58 am 
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Definitely Pacquiao can bounce back as legends do. Greatness are being measured on how you will defeat adversities and I believe Pacquiao is capable of doing that.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:01 am 
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What happened to Lewis vs.Rhaman 2 will exactly happen if Marquez is willing to fight Pacquiao for the 5th time. Pacquiao will be very smart and explosive as he will employ his plyometrics training once again.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:04 am 
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Pacquiao can bounce back, you say? First, Pacquiao needs to address the problem that led to his devastating loss (Marquez 4). It seems the consensus opinion here is that, DISTRACTIONS led to his destruction. It makes sense then that his # 1 priority in staging a comeback is to GET RID of all these DISTRACTIONS. His main goal then should be, FOCUS! FOCUS! FOCUS! Distractions and focus cannot co-exist. They are 180 degree of each other. Once Pacquiao has established and accepted these, then he must set measures to reach his main goal (Focus) by getting rid of the main problem (Distractions).

I) WHAT ARE THE DISTRACTIONS?

A) His new-found religion - 1) Get rid of the pastors. Easy said than done. But if he wants to really reach his main goal (Focus), it MUST be done. As they say, by hook or by crook. 2) Stop Bible studies, night prayers, etc. They serve no purpose for achieving the main goal. they are nothing but distractions. Pacquiao can still fulfill his Catholic, oops, Christian responsibility by going to Sunday Services.

B) Stop politicking. Take a leave from Congress, if necessary. No campaigning in behalf of other politicians. May even have to ask wife to temporarily hold off her plans to run for public office as it most likely will interfere with his training.

C) Trim Pacquiao Team to bare minimum. In training, less is more. Get rid of the kibitzers, smoochers, hangers-on, shadows, etc. They serve nothing to improve once training but only cause more distractions. Long-line entourage also create distractions and MUST be trimmed to a trusted few.

D) "If you train hard, the fight is easy," Pacquiao's very own words. He should live up to his own Golden Rule. He can only train hard if there are no distractions. No more part-time training in the Philippines and part-time training at the Wild Card Gym. Train from start to finish at the Wild Card Gym. Period! Except for the scheduled media contacts, have training sessions CLOSED to public. Be a good pupil. Listen to Roach and the experts of the Team Pacquiao. Make them earn the big money you're paying them for.

II) ABOUT THE COMEBACK PREP:

A) LEARN - Defense! Defense! Defense! Pacquiao should watch the Marquez fights over and over and over, again especially the 4th fight. Marquez exposed Pacquiao. The word is out, "Don't fight toe-to-toe with Pacquiao. Watch for an opening, then boom. Just be patient. Pacquiao will eventually show it."

B) SEEK help from a professional therapist. Family and friends can console you but a professional therapist (not a pastor) can help you go through all the emotional letdown (eg. depression) from that devastating KO loss. It's not a sign of weakness. That devastating KO loss won't be easy to overcome alone. Not only Pacquiao should be physically prepared but also psychologically to stage a comeback. Boxing is not just show of brute and force. It's 50% physical and 50% psyche. They work together, in unison. They are the "yin and yang" of boxing.

Pacquiao has reached a fork in the main road. One leads to the Retirement Road, the other to the Comeback Road. Which one will Pacquiao choose, only he knows. IMHO, Pride will prevail and eventually Pacquiao will choose the Comeback Road but it won't be easy. Whether he chooses the former or the latter, All the Best for him.

Just my 2 cents.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:22 am 
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He could if he chose to be a full time boxer.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:36 am 
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wurrmed wrote:
He could if he chose to be a full time boxer.


This.


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