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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:01 pm 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
I think Pac should fight JMM like the way Bruce Lee fought Chuck Norris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE
After the knockdowns of course.


LOL
awesome...

YES...HE MUST USE A NEW WEAPON.....AN OVERHAND LEFT KICK TO COUNTER THE OVERHAND IGHT OF MARQUEZ...HEHHE


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:19 pm 
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malmina123 wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
I think Pac should fight JMM like the way Bruce Lee fought Chuck Norris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE
After the knockdowns of course.


LOL
awesome...

YES...HE MUST USE A NEW WEAPON.....AN OVERHAND LEFT KICK TO COUNTER THE OVERHAND IGHT OF MARQUEZ...HEHHE


If Packy still not successful with these styles against Hulkjuan -he must grasp Jmm's right arm slide his body and put all his strength, slams him on the floor, immediately grab Marquez arm and locked it while his foot on Hulkjuan neck and face, stretch it with pull force and put the Hulk into submission! hehehe... how about that folks? :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:54 pm 
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Blazing Speed wrote:
malmina123 wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
I think Pac should fight JMM like the way Bruce Lee fought Chuck Norris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE
After the knockdowns of course.


LOL
awesome...

YES...HE MUST USE A NEW WEAPON.....AN OVERHAND LEFT KICK TO COUNTER THE OVERHAND IGHT OF MARQUEZ...HEHHE


If Packy still not successful with these styles against Hulkjuan -he must grasp Jmm's right arm slide his body and put all his strength, slams him on the floor, immediately grab Marquez arm and locked it while his foot on Hulkjuan neck and face, stretch it with pull force and put the Hulk into submission! hehehe... how about that folks? :lol:


If that's the case then why not fake throwing a punch, as Marquez ducks down to throw the counter, let Pac do a flying knee. His Muay Thai background should help.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:54 pm 
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pwede... :beer:
yari na si Marquez kung Freestyle Fighting ang labanan :bounce1: :bounce1: :bounce1:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:20 am 
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Blazing Speed wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
I think Pac should fight JMM like the way Bruce Lee fought Chuck Norris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE
After the knockdowns of course.


LOL
awesome...

Ray Leonard and Wilfred Benitez patterned their fighting style on Bruce Lee's.
Make the other guy miss by an inch then baaam!
You don't make the other guy miss by 3 feet b/c then you'd have no chance to counter.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:14 am 
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I wonder why PAC keeps moving to his left (right of Marquez)..praktis nila na punta siya sa kanan pro sa kaliwa parin pumupunta.naging sucker tuloy sya sa kanan ni Marquez..


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:28 am 
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Engel wrote:
I wonder why PAC keeps moving to his left (right of Marquez)..praktis nila na punta siya sa kanan pro sa kaliwa parin pumupunta.naging sucker tuloy sya sa kanan ni Marquez..

It wouldn't be so bad if he could at least move there to sucker JMM in throwing his right then duck under it then whack him.
Problem is when Pac moves there, he gets tagged b/c his head is sticking up in the air.
You take away the counter puncher's opportunities, you take away his game.

The way Hatton beat KT was he hit him then he hugged him all night. He just smothered him all night.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:31 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
I think Pac should fight JMM like the way Bruce Lee fought Chuck Norris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE
After the knockdowns of course.


Diba yun nman talaga ang ginaya ni manny? Pati ang knock downs? Tumumba si Bruce lee ng 3x bago bumawi..ginaya ni manny kaya Lang imbes na bumawi..di na siya bumangon...lol


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:34 am 
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Engel wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
I think Pac should fight JMM like the way Bruce Lee fought Chuck Norris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLO1YIWQuXE
After the knockdowns of course.


Diba yun nman talaga ang ginaya ni manny? Pati ang knock downs? Tumumba si Bruce lee ng 3x bago bumawi..ginaya ni manny kaya Lang imbes na bumawi..di na siya bumangon...lol

Pac is not Bruce Lee or Totoy Bato.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4U3oaBAmoM


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:44 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
Engel wrote:
I wonder why PAC keeps moving to his left (right of Marquez)..praktis nila na punta siya sa kanan pro sa kaliwa parin pumupunta.naging sucker tuloy sya sa kanan ni Marquez..

It wouldn't be so bad if he could at least move there to sucker JMM in throwing his right then duck under it then whack him.
Problem is when Pac moves there, he gets tagged b/c his head is sticking up in the air.
You take away the counter puncher's opportunities, you take away his game.

The way Hatton beat KT was he hit him then he hugged him all night. He just smothered him all night.


Yeah you're right..lumilitaw ang ulo na walang depensa..on that brief moment, kaya whamm.. Tapos ang istorya..


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:57 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
Engel wrote:
I wonder why PAC keeps moving to his left (right of Marquez)..praktis nila na punta siya sa kanan pro sa kaliwa parin pumupunta.naging sucker tuloy sya sa kanan ni Marquez..

It wouldn't be so bad if he could at least move there to sucker JMM in throwing his right then duck under it then whack him.
Problem is when Pac moves there, he gets tagged b/c his head is sticking up in the air.
You take away the counter puncher's opportunities, you take away his game.

The way Hatton beat KT was he hit him then he hugged him all night. He just smothered him all night.


Very well said...
When he attacks Marquez it's very important for Pac to duck a little low imo, to avoid that powerful overhand right hand counter, yeah right a lot of inputs here suggests to eliminate pump fakes! keep throwing bombs with no hesitation, push him hard to the ropes, Marquez always rattles with that situation, and it's gonna be so hard for him get a perfect angle or enough space to throw his own haymaker shot.
look what Baby Bull did to him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p1QJ0ZEpp8 it's fortunate for him Diaz gas out... :(

here Marquez Vs Salido: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjfRHbzAGM

here Barrera Vs Narquez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqKfih67fTU

here Marquez Vs Agapito Sanchez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaxRZmpKXXE

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:08 am 
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Hope Manny and his coach watch those fights and get necessary ideas to neutralize Marquez's great counter punching technique effectively.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:11 am 
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Getting rid of the stutter pump fake will be the game changer...
Overwhelm Juanita with barrage of combo's (not carelessly)...

Juan Diaz was successfully doing it but got tired...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:38 am 
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BEELZEBUB wrote:
Getting rid of the stutter pump fake will be the game changer...
Overwhelm Juanita with barrage of combo's (not carelessly)...

Juan Diaz was successfully doing it but got tired...



right, mate

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:56 am 
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Another point, don't fight tall against Marquez. Boxers who had effective rounds against Marquez fought him short. And when JMM bends low, that's when he unleashes his missiles (ultimate example is how he KO'd Pacman). He is very good at making those upward punches and hooks. Even if you think that your distance is safe, and you stand tall and leave your cheeks unprotected, he whacks you with a long hook.

The only video I haven't seen of Marquez is a phone-booth toe-to-toe type of fight. I wonder how he will fare. But knowing that he is a ring general, it might not be possible to force him into such type of rough in-fighting all the time. And watch out for his foot stomps; they stop you on your tracks and BAM, blackout! ... :biglaugh:


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