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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:58 pm 
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^ causes of recent peso depreciation. the US central bank’s anticipated interest rate hike; Trump’s election which brings uncertainty because he had advocated changes in American policy on trade that would affect world trade and investments;


Not bad per se

The peso’s recent depreciation is not only relatively small, but also not bad per se. In fact, certain sectors can indeed benefit from it. To see this, let’s go back to what “depreciation” and “appreciation” mean.

When the peso “depreciates” (say, from P45 to P50 per US dollar), Filipino goods and services become cheaper in the eyes of foreigners, boosting the sales of the economy’s dollar-earning sectors which constitute as much as 40% of the economy, according to the finance department. These include exports, tourism, and BPOs, as well as OFWs (overseas Filipino workers) whose remittances take on larger values, thus increasing the purchasing power of their families back at home.

On the other hand, when the peso “appreciates” (say, from P45 to P40 per US dollar), Filipino goods and services become more expensive in the eyes of foreigners. Consequently, foreign goods become cheaper in the eyes of Filipinos, who then have greater capacity to purchase more foreign goods. It is in this sense that a peso appreciation is often quoted by the media as a “strengthening” of the peso.


Our foreign debt - do you pay it on pesos or dollars? Gasoline imports do you pay it on pesos or dollars? What do you think is one of the main reasons why there is now a high inflation rate in the country which is expected to go even higher? Purchasing power argument is okay if prices remain stable or low. When we borrow now and the government is borrowing now, we borrow in dollars , so we pay back in dollars too. Of course this government will try to spin the issue.

small mind create confusion :lol:
nerbyosa ka masyado relaks ka lang , foundation at poste palang ang ginagawa ni Duterte .... huwag kang maniniwala sa mga Yellow Media, :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Yellow media - so CNN, BBC , Bloomberg almost all major and mainstream publications from even foreign countries are now yellow too.

And Mocha Uson whose twitter account was suspended , Sassot are now the sources of your info with their alternative facts.


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Yellow media - so CNN, BBC , Bloomberg almost all major and mainstream publications from even foreign countries are now yellow too.


there source come from the yellow media and Duterte critics , like Trump most media in the philippines is against Duterte :)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:13 pm 
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dan44 wrote:
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Yellow media - so CNN, BBC , Bloomberg almost all major and mainstream publications from even foreign countries are now yellow too.


there source come from the yellow media and Duterte critics , like Trump most media in the philippines is against Duterte :)


And where did you copy paste that article about the IMF? Did it come from your so called yellow media? Ask you again , was there any major infrastructure in Davao like a city hospital, a city public school which was constructed during Duterte's time?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:16 pm 
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dan44 wrote:
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Yellow media - so CNN, BBC , Bloomberg almost all major and mainstream publications from even foreign countries are now yellow too.


there source come from the yellow media and Duterte critics , like Trump most media in the philippines is against Duterte :)


And back to the original question, despite the wide budget deficit , was there any major infrastructure project that this administration already initiated? And about the GDP, who do you think was responsible for its' growth over the last several years?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:24 pm 
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^ masyado kang nerbyosa...some project take years to take off, walong buwan palang si Digong sa Malacanang , kaya relask ka lang, I will judge him after 3 years ..to early to tell huwag kang masyadong nerbyosa, patient ka masyado kay PNOY pero kay digong atat na atat ka...

You confirmed yourself as a yellow fanatic..iyak pa more :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:26 pm 
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dan44 wrote:
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Yellow media - so CNN, BBC , Bloomberg almost all major and mainstream publications from even foreign countries are now yellow too.


there source come from the yellow media and Duterte critics , like Trump most media in the philippines is against Duterte :)


Tell you what, if Duterte cannot build one hospital, one city public school for Davao city in all of his and his family's governance for nearly 20 years what makes you think that he can do the same for the Philippines in 6 years - maybe there might be an increase in funeral parlors


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Yellow media - so CNN, BBC , Bloomberg almost all major and mainstream publications from even foreign countries are now yellow too.[/quote]

there source come from the yellow media and Duterte critics , like Trump most media in the philippines is against Duterte :)[/quote]

Tell you what, if Duterte cannot build one hospital, one city public school for Davao city in all of his and his family's governance for nearly 20 years what makes you think that he can do the same for the Philippines in 6 years - maybe there might be an increase in funeral parlors


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:30 pm 
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^ masyado kang nerbyosa...some project take years to take off, walong buwan palang si Digong sa Malacanang , kaya relask ka lang, I will judge him after 3 years ..to early to tell huwag kang masyadong nerbyosa, patient ka masyado kay PNOY pero kay digong atat na atat ka...

You confirmed yourself as a yellow fanatic..iyak pa more :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Ad hominem argument again, who's crying , maybe you after less than three years, and what's with the emoticons , if you think you can conceal your ignorance and make up for it with these , you are terribly wrong.
Again answer the question was Duterte able to build one hospital, one public school in Davao in close to 20 years?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:36 pm 
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^ masyado kang nerbyosa...some project take years to take off, walong buwan palang si Digong sa Malacanang , kaya relask ka lang, I will judge him after 3 years ..to early to tell huwag kang masyadong nerbyosa, patient ka masyado kay PNOY pero kay digong atat na atat ka...

You confirmed yourself as a yellow fanatic..iyak pa more :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Ad hominem argument again, who's crying , maybe you after less than three years, and what's with the emoticons , if you think you can conceal your ignorance and make up for it with these , you are terribly wrong.
Again answer the question was Duterte able to build one hospital, one public school in Davao in close to 20 years?

punta ka sa Davao..

DID THEY NEED IT ?
http://spmc.doh.gov.ph/ LARGEST GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL IN THE PHILIPPINES
http://www.philnews.xyz/2016/12/philipp ... -city.html

http://www.deped-davaocity.ph/school-directory.html

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dan44 wrote:
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^ masyado kang nerbyosa...some project take years to take off, walong buwan palang si Digong sa Malacanang , kaya relask ka lang, I will judge him after 3 years ..to early to tell huwag kang masyadong nerbyosa, patient ka masyado kay PNOY pero kay digong atat na atat ka...

You confirmed yourself as a yellow fanatic..iyak pa more :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Ad hominem argument again, who's crying , maybe you after less than three years, and what's with the emoticons , if you think you can conceal your ignorance and make up for it with these , you are terribly wrong.
Again answer the question was Duterte able to build one hospital, one public school in Davao in close to 20 years?

punta ka sa Davao..

DID THEY NEED IT ?

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http://spmc.doh.gov.ph/ LARGEST GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL IN THE PHILIPPINES
http://www.philnews.xyz/2016/12/philipp ... -city.html

http://www.deped-davaocity.ph/school-directory.html

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LARGEST GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL IN THE PHILIPPINES

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:02 pm 
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Emmanuel53 wrote:
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^ masyado kang nerbyosa...some project take years to take off, walong buwan palang si Digong sa Malacanang , kaya relask ka lang, I will judge him after 3 years ..to early to tell huwag kang masyadong nerbyosa, patient ka masyado kay PNOY pero kay digong atat na atat ka...

You confirmed yourself as a yellow fanatic..iyak pa more :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Ad hominem argument again, who's crying , maybe you after less than three years, and what's with the emoticons , if you think you can conceal your ignorance and make up for it with these , you are terribly wrong.
Again answer the question was Duterte able to build one hospital, one public school in Davao in close to 20 years?


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Yeah, and while you're thinking about all mundane things, the country's dollar reserves are silently being eroded to keep the peso from further sinking, the trade deficit is widening, inflation is rising, the budget deficit has gone up close to 400 billion pesos, there is a looming threat of the suspension of tariff free exports of more than 6000 Philippine products to EU countries, China is continuing to build structures in disputed areas , the unemployment rate has gone up, the Abu Sayyaf has taken almost double the hostages that they previously held, bodies are piling up faster than you can bury them, and all these happening in less than a year.
Duterte sure beats Marcos by a mile - it took Marcos years to ruin the country, Duterte is doing it in record time - it took Marcos years for the world to take notice, well Duterte did it during his first months in office.
And I'll have to give it to Duterte, he sure has the political will to bring his enemies down to their knees at the country's expense. And as for eliminating poverty, he still has a long way to go, millions more waiting in line to be killed.


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As if these things never happened in the previous administrations! During the time of Marcos, our economy was in shambles. During the time of Cory, the economy failed to recover due to endless coup d'etat tries against her. Forward to P-noy's admin, China had forbidden our fishermen from our own shoals, but now they can go there and fish; PDAF and DAP were examples of legalized plunder that deprived our people of basic services. The ASG has been terrorizing us since the beginning but what have the other presidents done? And now, you are attributing these to the present admin? And how can you say that Duterte has ruined our economy? We have better prospects now under him than any other corrupt presidents before him. We ain't seen nothin' yet. And don't push the panic button yet on the peso depreciation. It may be bad for import (gasoline, etc), but it's good for export and our OFWs.

Duterte had no enemies, but some people turned themselves into his enemies. They got their comeuppance. These people have skeletons in their closets so they try to make noise to cover up their shenanigans. Those waiting to be killed are criminals, and if you are one of them, beware! You still have time to change your evil ways.


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Good for exports if there is no trade imbalance, but you see there is a larger trade deficit which means more dollars going out than dollars coming in, and this would further be exacerbated if EU countries would discontinue trade free tariff exports for more than 6000 Philippine products.
And so you need Chinese permission to fish on our own waters now even after the international tribunal ruling? You see even the Supreme Court ruling on the DAP recognized that it accelerated development , it was the method which was questioned - the PDAF had a website which detailed specific spending including details like the project, location, amounts disbursed , the lawmaker involved so there was actually greater transparency.
Close to 8000 of Filipinos have been killed - are all of them criminals? It took one Korean for Duterte to admit that 40% of the police force was corrupt - so who would now be accountable for the lives lost during the campaign spearheaded by a police force that was in Duterte's own words 40% corrupt?
Unemployment has gone up , budget deficit is near 400 billion, Aquino actually shrunk the budget deficit from 300 billion during Arroyo's time to 72 billion by 2014 and now it's back. Diokno admitted that the country's economic fundamentals were strong due to Aquino's fiscal management - and if there was one thing the Aquino administration was guilty of , it was underspending.



So if there is a larger trade deficit, you want these countries to just import our inferior products and pamper our manufacturers? You have to be competitive and not just wait for government to spoonfeed you. So what if EU cancels free tariff for our products? We can always reciprocate in kind. But rather than EU, we're better off doing business with our ASEAN neighbors. The world is actually wooing ASEAN to include them in ASEAN trade and economic fora.

So what if you need to ask permission from the Chinese? Be practical. Last time I heard, our fishermen couldn't even fish in their own territory even with permission. It's a no-brainer which situation favors our fishermen, so you better ask them which one they'd prefer.

That 40% or even higher, of the police force are corrupt is common knowledge. They've been with us for as far as I can remember. Most are leftovers from previous admins because they were weak presidents. Duterte is now cleansing the police and even the bureaucracy, but you still complain! Blame yourself for being weak and tolerating weakness.

I'm not sure if all of the 8000 killed were criminals, but I believe most of those killed in police encounters are. Vigilante killings should not be attributed to the police; doing so would be sheer idiocy.

You quoted it correctly when you said Aquino's admin was guilty of underspending, and therein lies the reason why our budget deficit shrunk: because of the so-called savings kuno. By the way, the SC probably stated a general principle that when you allocate budgets for projects, naturally there would be some developments, but greater transparency you said? Perhaps you were living in another planet that you have not heard that most of these allocations went into the pockets of Napoles and our honorable lawmakers who are now in jail.


Our inferior products , come again? The trade imbalance is with China , not with the United States or Japan our three top trading partners, you think we'll ever have a positive balance vis a vis Chinese products keep on dreaming, I've had first hand experience, our garments factory had to close shop because the market was flooded with cheap Chinese goods.
Do you have to ask permission from your tenant to enter your own house? The international tribunal already gave us the high ground, and we're ceding that - do I have to remind you about Duterte's jet ski remark and the complete turnaround afterwards - but of course he has broken most of his promises , including that one about pork barrel because it remains the carrot aside of course from intimidation to keep members of congress in line.
So he knew that 40% of the police force was corrupt , then why would you unleash that type of group in the drug campaign, why not cleanse it first , that's putting the cart before the horse - because he doesn't care about the lives of the poor, to him they're simply lab rats in an experiment and if he was so successful in Davao , why are there still drugs in Davao more than 20 years after he took office? Why did it take one single Korean fatality, not the thousands of Filipinos including kids , for him to acknowledge the ineptness of the force he was unleashing on hapless citizens? Any vigilante caught in Davao after more than a thousand killings , how about after close to 6000 kills in the country , any substantial development or significant arrests made - the human rights director who wrote the report on EJKs noted in an interview - how can an armed group roam around freely in heavily patrolled areas and not get caught if the police are not complicit?
And Napoles got caught , correct - now some of the biggest crooks including Arroyo, Bolante , et al and perhaps even Napoles in the near future are being freed. The tendency of corrupt people is to overspend , more projects , more sources of corruption, right.
Duterte lies and he lies blatantly - he actually said to a group of Filipinos in Indonesia that he has already doubled the salaries of policemen and soldiers - doblado na - when the increase in allowances and benefits of this group was because of the executive order signed by Aquino, Executive order 201. This is the video of Duterte speaking to the Filipino community - you can watch it or scroll to the 1:17:10 mark where he said - kaya dinoble ko, doblado na sila ngayon - but perhaps he was referring to Lascanas and other members who the DDS who were receiving monthly allowances of 100k from him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwgNfHnqwbY



Use your coconut shell on why we have trade imbalance with China. In fact, the whole world has trade imbalance with China simply because China has cheaper products compared with the rest of the world (quality and safety aside). So if I were the importer, I would source my goods from China too. Kailangan pa bang i-memorize yan? It's a pity that our garments factories had to close shop, but that's business. People search for products that would maximize their profit. Cheaper prices are mostly the result of cheaper labor, not to mention cheaper raw materials. That's why rich countries grow at a slower pace than poorer countries like us because their labor cost is higher.

So you want to declare war against China because we won in the international tribunal? If you are a brave Pinoy, then I'm sure you are probably one among those who want war with China. I do too, but I think rationally just like our president. There is time for war and a time for diplomacy. We need to get rich first and improve our defenses. Without corruption, this has become a feasible reality. It is the height of naivete believing everything Duterte said during the campaign period. Have you ever head of hyperbole, or double-talk? An astute politician would never show all his cards in order to win. You have to bluff your opponents and it proved effective - he won the presidency.

Drugs are everywhere in this world. You wouldn't even know if your children are into drugs. Can Duterte eliminate drugs? I don't think so, but he can limit the drug trade and the proliferation of drugs, which he has started doing but is being hindered by his political enemies for their own survival. You can't do anything if the police chose to be corrupt. Duterte has made it clear that he hates corruption, so the police can choose to be corrupt at their own risk. He trusted the police to abide by his policies and example, but some of them have chosen the wrong path, which is not his fault. Why would you blame him for the crimes committed by the ASG and the police? What is important is that he wants to clean the police and to eliminate the ASG. You should do your part and not just criticize without reason.

And why blame Duterte if Arroyo had been freed? Blame the SC; blame the justices placed by P-noy and Gloria; blame P-noy and De Lima for incarcerating people without strong evidence.

If you're telling us that P-noy doubled the salaries of policemen, why had the police not received the increase during his tenure? Because he had no budget for it as money had already been distributed to corrupt lawmakers through PDAF and DAP. Duterte was able to implement it because his admin is not corrupt, so every penny of the budget is accounted for. You should be thankful that we finally have a president like Duterte who has the political will and is not corrupt. You are implying that there is still pork barrel in his budget but that remains to be seen. Without evidence of wrongdoing, it's pure hearsay. But I believe Duterte will not tolerate corruption under his watch.

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I enjoyed following the exchanges.

One of Rizal’s first propositions I have to agree with is about this thing called “political correctness”. Some people call this cultural Marxism, and that its trademark is intolerance. This means that a “politically correct” world refuses to recognize any superiority or inferiority -- even the most obvious ones for fear of offending others with the truth.

Of course, it has moral implications. Treating everyone equally is a problem, as all manners presuppose distinctions.

Yes, we have to do away with political correctness. We need to stand up to this “politically correct” culture that claims that there is no right and wrong by blurring all definitions.

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I enjoyed following the exchanges.

One of Rizal’s first propositions I have to agree with is about this thing called “political correctness”. Some people call this cultural Marxism, and that its trademark is intolerance. This means that a “politically correct” world refuses to recognize any superiority or inferiority -- even the most obvious ones for fear of offending others with the truth.

Of course, it has moral implications. Treating everyone equally is a problem, as all manners presuppose distinctions.

Yes, we have to do away with political correctness. We need to stand up to this “politically correct” culture that claims that there is no right and wrong by blurring all definitions.



You are right about the tyranny that is political correctness. But there is a deeper reason why we tolerate this intolerance of the obvious superiority of men over the other gender and that is the absence of political will for fear of losing in an election. Politicians are the real cause of this warping of our innate values as normal people by way of pampering the voters to obtain as much votes as possible. We don't really fear offending others with the truth, but rather we fear the penalty associated with the legalization of political correctness. Just as parents can now be penalized for disciplining their children and husbands accused of marital rape, politicians have totally turned our world into disarray because we chose human wisdom over the divine. Imagine same-sex marriage, legalized prostitution, and other detestable laws and you get my drift about the insanity of politics.

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panahon pa ni Marcos yang Hospital na yan, iniimprove at iniimprove trough time, malapit lang ang bahay namin diyan.
Noong bata pa kami, playground namin yang labas ng Hospital.

Tama si Emmanuel, wala talagang napatayong mga infrastructure si Digong. Lahat improvement lang ng National Government na sa panahon pa ni Respecio.

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