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Author:  JoeyInCali [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:28 am ]
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I'm expecting Mathysse to pull a fake injury anytime soon.

Why would he fight Pac if he's going to make a lot more against Crawford ?
That is if Arum send Oskee the Fishnet some down payment for Mathysse's services .

Remember when Andre Berto pulled a fake " I'm too distraught to fight b/c of the earthquake in Haiti ." ?
Floyd paid him off to step aside.

Author:  Romy Nabas [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:37 am ]
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edroland wrote:
It is unethical for Arum to suggest that the fight may not happen. I am pretty sure Manny is not happy with what Arum is talking about



Arum has bad blood against packy as pac insisted that his contract with arum already ended with horn's fight while arum says that pac is under tr for unknown expiration date

He just wanted to sabotage pac fight

Lets see on july 15 and those doubters will eat crow

Author:  tagapagkatay [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:30 am ]
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I have a feeling that bob is working behind the scenes for the fight nit to happen..

Author:  martti santos [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:41 am ]
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Mofo!....arum.....this fight ain't happening....coz mattyse is gonna retire on July 15!...book it... :lol:

Author:  wooks425 [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:11 am ]
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Arum may die before PAcman retires - for all we know.

Author:  wooks425 [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:12 am ]
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tagapagkatay wrote:
I have a feeling that bob is working behind the scenes for the fight nit to happen..

True. It's getting obvious too.

Author:  gritsteel2 [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:40 am ]
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JoeyInCali wrote:
I'm expecting Mathysse to pull a fake injury anytime soon.

Why would he fight Pac if he's going to make a lot more against Crawford ?
That is if Arum send Oskee the Fishnet some down payment for Mathysse's services .

Remember when Andre Berto pulled a fake " I'm too distraught to fight b/c of the earthquake in Haiti ." ?
Floyd paid him off to step aside.


Pacman's name is still bigger, and I think Lucas wants that honor.

Fight won't happen if pacman team does not pay the remaining balance of the purse for Lucas in escrow.

Author:  JoeyInCali [ Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Arum interested in Crawford vs.Mattysse fight in fall

gritsteel2 wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
I'm expecting Mathysse to pull a fake injury anytime soon.

Why would he fight Pac if he's going to make a lot more against Crawford ?
That is if Arum send Oskee the Fishnet some down payment for Mathysse's services .

Remember when Andre Berto pulled a fake " I'm too distraught to fight b/c of the earthquake in Haiti ." ?
Floyd paid him off to step aside.


Pacman's name is still bigger, and I think Lucas wants that honor.

Fight won't happen if pacman team does not pay the remaining balance of the purse for Lucas in escrow.

Pac is not the bigger name.
He has no title.
Not in the top 10 P4P list.
Crawford is top 5 P4P.
Pac fights outside the US because he is no longer a draw.

Author:  JoeyInCali [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:44 am ]
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We can blame Arum for sabotage all day but it looks like MP Promotions has not paid Golden Boy Promotions $2M they owe them.
The fight is less than a month away and the money for promotion and broadcasting costs are not secured yet ?

Author:  gritsteel2 [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:01 am ]
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JoeyInCali wrote:
gritsteel2 wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
I'm expecting Mathysse to pull a fake injury anytime soon.

Why would he fight Pac if he's going to make a lot more against Crawford ?
That is if Arum send Oskee the Fishnet some down payment for Mathysse's services .

Remember when Andre Berto pulled a fake " I'm too distraught to fight b/c of the earthquake in Haiti ." ?
Floyd paid him off to step aside.


Pacman's name is still bigger, and I think Lucas wants that honor.

Fight won't happen if pacman team does not pay the remaining balance of the purse for Lucas in escrow.

Pac is not the bigger name.
He has no title.
Not in the top 10 P4P list.
Crawford is top 5 P4P.
Pac fights outside the US because he is no longer a draw.


Pac is the bigger name, a legend, Crawford is not, yet. You must be kidding, ask several folks on the street and they might come back with Crawford who ?

Consequently, Crawford is not a bigger PPV draw, yet, even after beating Horn. Pacman will still always get more PPV in comparison. That's in the USA. Only boxing afficionados know Crawford and most names in boxing, and there are few of us.

We don't know if Pacman goes back to the USA. Fighting outside has its advantages too, one can hide their taxes, like there is nothing about what Pacman is getting for his Malaysia fight. The silence is good for his pockets. From the past, Crawford already proved he can't beat Pacman's lowest PPV results, we'll see in the future if he ever can.

Crawford and Horn could only get 8112 attendance, that's low for a "bigger name" than the Pacman.

As among the top draw, titles don't matter, although Pacman always wants one, probably for political reasons.

As for current pound for pound, Pacman is a legend, so we are past that and would look at where he ranks all time. If Duran came back and fought Crawford, Duran still has the bigger name. Crawford who ?

Author:  JoeyInCali [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:39 am ]
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Quote:

Pac is the bigger name, a legend, Crawford is not, yet. You must be kidding, ask several folks on the street and they might come back with Crawford who ?

Consequently, Crawford is not a bigger PPV draw, yet, even after beating Horn. Pacman will still always get more PPV in comparison. That's in the USA. Only boxing afficionados know Crawford and most names in boxing, and there are few of us.

We don't know if Pacman goes back to the USA. Fighting outside has its advantages too, one can hide their taxes, like there is nothing about what Pacman is getting for his Malaysia fight. The silence is good for his pockets. From the past, Crawford already proved he can't beat Pacman's lowest PPV results, we'll see in the future if he ever can.

Crawford and Horn could only get 8112 attendance, that's low for a "bigger name" than the Pacman.

As among the top draw, titles don't matter, although Pacman always wants one, probably for political reasons.

As for current pound for pound, Pacman is a legend, so we are past that and would look at where he ranks all time. If Duran came back and fought Crawford, Duran still has the bigger name. Crawford who ?

Pac has not had a PPV fight in the US for a while .
When the people here are talking about future great welterweight fights, Pac's name is not even mentioned anymore .

Mathysse beating Crawford would be a legacy win for him.
Mathysse beating a 39 1/2 yr old Pac is like Berbick beating Ali. Like Pazienza beating Duran. Nobody would care too much b/c they would have beat has beens.

Pac-Vargas and Pac-Bradely 3 did not draw all that well either. Pac gave away hundreds of tickets .
I was at the Pac-Bradley 2. And that one barely sold out then. But, Pac spent a million on free tickets too.

Crawford KO'd the man who beat Pac. Even if it was controversial. He still knocked him out .
Just like how Arum planned it. He catapulted Crawford .
And if Mathysse did fight Crawford, it sure wouldn't be held in Malaysia.
Pac-Mathysse in the US wouldn't sell jack.

Author:  thedarkdragon11 [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:09 am ]
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Interested with Matthysse but not with Spence? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why Matthysse? Ah, because he's Pacquiao's opponent... Why mention Pacquiao-Matthysse? Ah, to use Pacquiao's name...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  JoeyInCali [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:20 am ]
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thedarkdragon11 wrote:
Interested with Matthysse but not with Spence? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why Matthysse? Ah, because he's Pacquiao's opponent... Why mention Pacquiao-Matthysse? Ah, to use Pacquiao's name...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Spence does not like signing exclusivity with promoters.

Author:  gritsteel2 [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:08 pm ]
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Now Pacman team's mouthpiece insinuates Arum is trying to sabotage the fight lol.

Pacman is thanking Golden Boy and Matthysse, not Top Rank.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-137375.html

Author:  dan44 [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:12 pm ]
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Is Arum trying to sabotage this fight????

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