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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:38 pm 
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The paper says it all look at it

The replay says it all look at it

Your old mans let him hit himself and this was the same as if he was acting tough being young

But look, you can view the paper and the compubox

If you do not trust the compubox, watch the replay. I have counted the punches

Thurman landed punches: 200+
Pacqio landed punches: minus around 100

Fact: Manny did land the more expressed punches, but he also catched 2 to 4 REALLY good punches, right straights were landing on command

It's a lucky streak that the opponent is not contesting this.
If it wasn't for the body shot on the tenth round, Manny getting hit would have changed the course.

Did you think he let him hit himself to prove something? Or the mans tired?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:44 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:47 pm 
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Parang Canelo vs 3G lang yan eh. Mas may volume yumg kay Thurman pero mas may power and damaging yung mga suntok ni Manny.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:14 pm 
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round by round. wala yan sa final punch stats.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:14 am 
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TS needs to understand how boxing works....

Boxing is scored Round by Round:10 pts winner 9pts loser, each knockdown minus a point
(10-8 can be achieved if Winner hurt his opponent and basically the loser of that round was out or near out on their feet)

One Time never damaged Manny enough in any round to earn a 10-8 Round.

So even if KT landed 20 more punches in a round than Manny did, that's still only a 10-9 Round.
Whereas if Manny only Lands 3 more punches in a round than KT Did, he still gets the same 10-9 round.
Manny won more rounds than KT did and got the extra point for KD

As KT and Announcers themselves acknowledged Manny's Punches were more effective than KT's, which is why when Manny landed KT went into Deion Sanders Mode (Backpedalled very fast to get out of the Danger Zone)/

When KT landed his shots, Manny just ate it like a Milk Dud and Kept coming forward.

So While Compubox is A Great Tool for Measuring Workrate it does NOT tell the Entire Story

Boxing isn't basketball


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:22 am 
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Please .
KT's "power shots" were mostly arm punches.
Just because they were not jabs, doesn't mean they were "power" punches.

You still pick the winner of each round . The one who inflicted more punishment wins.
Believe me, you can't really tell the power of punches on TV.
Also, Pac landed quick short punches that the counters couldn't even see.

At the end of the fight, Pac won MORE ROUNDS.
To give Thurman FREAKING 7 ROUNDS, you would have to have given him ALL CLOSE ROUNDS.
Pac clearly won the first 3 rounds . No freaking way KT won 7 of the last 9 rounds .
He did not even clearly win rounds 10 to 12.
Pac won AT LEAST 7 rounds . ESPN GAVE HIM 9 rounds.
Even at 6-6, Pac still wins 114-113 due to the knock down.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:55 am 
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Well Said JOEYinCALI 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:01 am 
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Well said HUNA.. esp when you said "BOXING IS NOT BASKETBALL!" 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:39 pm 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
Please .
KT's "power shots" were mostly arm punches.
Just because they were not jabs, doesn't mean they were "power" punches.

You still pick the winner of each round . The one who inflicted more punishment wins.
Believe me, you can't really tell the power of punches on TV.
Also, Pac landed quick short punches that the counters couldn't even see.

At the end of the fight, Pac won MORE ROUNDS.
To give Thurman FREAKING 7 ROUNDS, you would have to have given him ALL CLOSE ROUNDS.
Pac clearly won the first 3 rounds . No freaking way KT won 7 of the last 9 rounds .
He did not even clearly win rounds 10 to 12.
Pac won AT LEAST 7 rounds . ESPN GAVE HIM 9 rounds.
Even at 6-6, Pac still wins 114-113 due to the knock down.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:40 pm 
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pinoypalakamongoloid wrote:
The paper says it all look at it

The replay says it all look at it

Your old mans let him hit himself and this was the same as if he was acting tough being young

But look, you can view the paper and the compubox

If you do not trust the compubox, watch the replay. I have counted the punches

Thurman landed punches: 200+
Pacqio landed punches: minus around 100

Fact: Manny did land the more expressed punches, but he also catched 2 to 4 REALLY good punches, right straights were landing on command

It's a lucky streak that the opponent is not contesting this.
If it wasn't for the body shot on the tenth round, Manny getting hit would have changed the course.

Did you think he let him hit himself to prove something? Or the mans tired?



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:45 am 
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Every reply is spot on.

to answer the question.

No, he did not let himself get hit. i am quite positive :D

and

Yes, He's tired and that is because he is an old professional boxer at 40. Still elite level.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:56 am 
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pogiako111 wrote:
pinoypalakamongoloid wrote:
The paper says it all look at it

The replay says it all look at it

Your old mans let him hit himself and this was the same as if he was acting tough being young

But look, you can view the paper and the compubox

If you do not trust the compubox, watch the replay. I have counted the punches

Thurman landed punches: 200+
Pacqio landed punches: minus around 100

Fact: Manny did land the more expressed punches, but he also catched 2 to 4 REALLY good punches, right straights were landing on command

It's a lucky streak that the opponent is not contesting this.
If it wasn't for the body shot on the tenth round, Manny getting hit would have changed the course.

Did you think he let him hit himself to prove something? Or the mans tired?



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:19 am 
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Thurman may have landed more shots but a lot of those are Pitty/Patty shots... there were a lot of solid ones too but Manny’s Chin and body took them better and compared to Keith and if you watch the replay Thurman was unsteady and bloodied going back to the corner...Quality vs Quantity
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:22 am 
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balakayojan :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:25 am 
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Thurman landed more shots..
Thurman absorbed harder shots
Thurman got his face reddish
Thurman was gracious loser
Thurman admitted defeat

Yet many are only looking at Pacquiao like a loser..




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