Sargo wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
When Sugar Ray and Armstrong were fighting, there were only 8 world titles.
There were THOUSANDS of boxing gyms in the US.
Armatrong held 3 of the 8 titles one time.
And those were all lineal titles.
And he was robbed against Garcia at 160.
He defended the welter belt 17 times iirc.
Today you have several dozen titles.
So what's your ranking for Pac Joey?
Tough call.
First of all, being the best boxer does not make you the greatest automatically.
Using multiple titles as basis is a little tricky.
You also need to realize, NOBODY WON 4 TITLES until junior divisions plus SUPER middleweight came about in the 80's.
Hearns won his fourth againt Roldan at 168.
Leonard winning his 4th and 5th at a 168 with 175 belt on the line as well.
Floyd and Oscar won more belts than Pernell Whitaker ? Are they greater than Pea? I don't think so.
Oscar won phoney belts at 130 and 160. He should be ashamed in calling himself a 6-division champion.
But, that was announced whenever he fought after "beating" Sturm.
RJJ was definitely greater than Oscar during their era.
RJJ hardly lost ROUNDS let alone fights in his prime .
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I think you might as well just have a top 10 greatest ever . Maybe the top 5 would have a good argument in being number 1.
Pac cracks tops 5 because of historical impact and achievements.
That does not mean he's a better boxer than the others under him.
It makes him greater because of his historical impact and achievements.
I don't think Pac would have beat Sal Sanchez at 126, but Pac is the greater boxer.
I don't think Robinson would have beat RJJ at 160 but SRR is still the greater boxer .