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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:48 am 
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In fact, those who can should help him out. He just need a new trainer, someone who can motivate him and keep interested enough to stay in the gym. He probably need a new manager who is tough but flexible at the same time to never stop hounding him to straighten up his act but flexible enough to put up with some of Marvin's inconsistencies. He is still a young man after all.....

If we as a country is seriously building our stable of champions, then what are we doing letting this very young and very talented hard hitting former champion go to waste? Can't we do better than this? Why not take full advantage of the fact that all Marvin needs now is a few more years of maturing and with proper training and nutrition, he can be unbeatable much like Manny Pacquiao.

And why was he matched up against a more mature and way better (in all aspects) fighter so early in his career? Such questionable matchmaking have destroyed many boxing careers, so let's be careful and more informed when picking opponents for Marvin.

The fight with Vasquez is in the past, but with time and the right people handling Marvin Sonsona, I would love to see a rematch between Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. and Marvin Sonsona. It will be a great fight but I'm sure the outcome will be way different than the last time when Vasquez fought a skinny ill prepared kid.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:02 am 
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I am not giving up on any Filipino boxers who once shined...

Boom Boom; Banal to name a few who is now labelled as bums...
They still have a chance... ALA should do something about his team. Its pretty obvious that their trainings are just so basic... Try the extremes ALA, motivate your fighters...

For Marvin, hope this kid will mature in his thinking... he still got a BIG chance. Only 1 loss in his card, its too far away to give up on him... 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:15 am 
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fan ni manny wrote:
In fact, those who can should help him out. He just need a new trainer, someone who can motivate him and keep interested enough to stay in the gym. He probably need a new manager who is tough but flexible at the same time to never stop hounding him to straighten up his act but flexible enough to put up with some of Marvin's inconsistencies. He is still a young man after all.....

If we as a country is seriously building our stable of champions, then what are we doing letting this very young and very talented hard hitting former champion go to waste? Can't we do better than this? Why not take full advantage of the fact that all Marvin needs now is a few more years of maturing and with proper training and nutrition, he can be unbeatable much like Manny Pacquiao.

And why was he matched up against a more mature and way better (in all aspects) fighter so early in his career? Such questionable matchmaking have destroyed many boxing careers, so let's be careful and more informed when picking opponents for Marvin.

The fight with Vasquez is in the past, but with time and the right people handling Marvin Sonsona, I would love to see a rematch between Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. and Marvin Sonsona. It will be a great fight but I'm sure the outcome will be way different than the last time when Vasquez fought a skinny ill prepared kid.


If he really want to be a champion, He should have the initiative and discipline. He could have the best trainer or best country to support him but without the two its useless...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:59 am 
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Triggerman16 wrote:
fan ni manny wrote:
In fact, those who can should help him out. He just need a new trainer, someone who can motivate him and keep interested enough to stay in the gym. He probably need a new manager who is tough but flexible at the same time to never stop hounding him to straighten up his act but flexible enough to put up with some of Marvin's inconsistencies. He is still a young man after all.....

If we as a country is seriously building our stable of champions, then what are we doing letting this very young and very talented hard hitting former champion go to waste? Can't we do better than this? Why not take full advantage of the fact that all Marvin needs now is a few more years of maturing and with proper training and nutrition, he can be unbeatable much like Manny Pacquiao.

And why was he matched up against a more mature and way better (in all aspects) fighter so early in his career? Such questionable matchmaking have destroyed many boxing careers, so let's be careful and more informed when picking opponents for Marvin.

The fight with Vasquez is in the past, but with time and the right people handling Marvin Sonsona, I would love to see a rematch between Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. and Marvin Sonsona. It will be a great fight but I'm sure the outcome will be way different than the last time when Vasquez fought a skinny ill prepared kid.


If he really want to be a champion, He should have the initiative and discipline. He could have the best trainer or best country to support him but without the two its useless...


Correct bro...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:13 pm 
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yes, we can't give up on him but what if he already gave up on himself? bum-bu-ru-bum-bum! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:17 pm 
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Triggerman16 wrote:
fan ni manny wrote:
In fact, those who can should help him out. He just need a new trainer, someone who can motivate him and keep interested enough to stay in the gym. He probably need a new manager who is tough but flexible at the same time to never stop hounding him to straighten up his act but flexible enough to put up with some of Marvin's inconsistencies. He is still a young man after all.....

If we as a country is seriously building our stable of champions, then what are we doing letting this very young and very talented hard hitting former champion go to waste? Can't we do better than this? Why not take full advantage of the fact that all Marvin needs now is a few more years of maturing and with proper training and nutrition, he can be unbeatable much like Manny Pacquiao.

And why was he matched up against a more mature and way better (in all aspects) fighter so early in his career? Such questionable matchmaking have destroyed many boxing careers, so let's be careful and more informed when picking opponents for Marvin.

The fight with Vasquez is in the past, but with time and the right people handling Marvin Sonsona, I would love to see a rematch between Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. and Marvin Sonsona. It will be a great fight but I'm sure the outcome will be way different than the last time when Vasquez fought a skinny ill prepared kid.


If he really want to be a champion, He should have the initiative and discipline. He could have the best trainer or best country to support him but without the two its useless...


Nailed it right there.
The kid needs to develop a character that will suit boxing.
All we can do is support him to be motivated.
I am not giving up on this kid.
Has a lot of potential.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:19 pm 
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Now why dont Pacquaio take Marvin Sonsona under his wings, for sure
Marvin is a constituent of Pacquaio and this kid got great potential,

Unfortunately marvin lacks focus, maybe he has ADHD or something, nothing
that concerta cannot fix,

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:26 pm 
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angsyga wrote:
yes, we can't give up on him but what if he already gave up on himself? bum-bu-ru-bum-bum! :lol: :lol: :lol:



A crucial consideration. Can you check, TS? 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:54 pm 
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Triggerman16 wrote:
If he really want to be a champion, He should have the initiative and discipline. He could have the best trainer or best country to support him but without the two its useless...
angsyga wrote:
yes, we can't give up on him but what if he already gave up on himself? bum-bu-ru-bum-bum! :lol: :lol: :lol:
imakaiw wrote:
A crucial consideration. Can you check, TS? 8)


All very well meaning comments, and I can only agree. Given all that, Marvin needs his confidence and self belief back, which he surely lost after his loss to Vasquez. I have every doubt that someone who spent so much time training countless hours to better himself as a boxer, who up to the point when he won a major belt in Canada, would simply just give up and walk away from something he loved doing even at an early age.

Maybe he just need counseling from a professional who deals with such cases. All I'm saying here is that everyone is expecting him to just man up and try to bounce back from his embarrassing loss to Vasquez, but has anyone really helped him regain the initiative and self confidence to make him whole as a fighter again? I doubt someone has, otherwise he'd be busting his asz right now training in the gym.

@Bro Imakaiw - I wish it's something I can bring up personally with Marvin but I am not related nor close with him at all. I only met and spoke with him and Ana Julaton once here in the U.S. before the Vasquez fight.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:00 pm 
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i think it's not us being the ones giving up. it's sonsona himself giving up after his last defeat. i think he's had enough and does not have the willpower to get back. a weakling.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:01 pm 
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we're not giving up...

but we think/thought he already gave up :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:03 pm 
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dominic wrote:
i think it's not us being the ones giving up. it's sonsona himself giving up after his last defeat. i think he's had enough and does not have the willpower to get back. a weakling.


But bro dominic, calling him a weakling doesn't help either, does it?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:07 pm 
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fan ni manny wrote:
dominic wrote:
i think it's not us being the ones giving up. it's sonsona himself giving up after his last defeat. i think he's had enough and does not have the willpower to get back. a weakling.


But bro dominic, calling him a weakling doesn't help either, does it?



i think he needs a sports psychologist to keep his mind in the proper place and be guided back on the right track.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:10 pm 
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angsyga wrote:
fan ni manny wrote:
dominic wrote:
i think it's not us being the ones giving up. it's sonsona himself giving up after his last defeat. i think he's had enough and does not have the willpower to get back. a weakling.


But bro dominic, calling him a weakling doesn't help either, does it?



i think he needs a sports psychologist to keep his mind in the proper place and be guided back on the right track.


bingo!!! thanks bro, this says a lot about his state of mind right now which is heavily self defeating.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:34 pm 
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If,like Pac,Marvin will take the stick exercises religiously and won't give up, i gonna support him again. 8)


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