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Author:  Israel Vasquez [ Mon May 03, 2010 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

FLOYD MAYWEATHER, JR HAS OFFICIALLY SURPASSED MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, HENRY ARMSTRONG AND OTHERS SINCE AT THIS POINT, THESE SO-CALLED LEGENDS WOULDN'T SUBMIT AND IN FACT "NEVER" SUBMITTED TO "OLYMPIC DRUG-TESTING" SO THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE NOW PUT INTO QUESTION AND ARE IN SUSPICION OF BEING ACCOMPLISHED BEC. OF PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS, AND OTHERS...,


Here is the Link:>>>

FLOYDMAYWEATHERBOXINGCOMMISION.COM

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Author:  Ta0ngBat0 [ Mon May 03, 2010 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

Actually Leonard himself was accused of steroids coming to the Hearns fight.

Author:  TheSubversive [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

they didnt have the blood testing technology back then dude

Author:  JoeyInCali [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

Another example why Pacfans have a bad reputation of being dumb about boxing.

Author:  concon [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

Gayweather wins is also questionable by using Xylocaine drug.

Author:  reigncourts [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

Israel Vasquez wrote:
FLOYD MAYWEATHER, JR HAS OFFICIALLY SURPASSED MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, HENRY ARMSTRONG AND OTHERS SINCE AT THIS POINT, THESE SO-CALLED LEGENDS WOULDN'T SUBMIT AND IN FACT "NEVER" SUBMITTED TO "OLYMPIC DRUG-TESTING" SO THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE NOW PUT INTO QUESTION AND ARE IN SUSPICION OF BEING ACCOMPLISHED BEC. OF PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS, AND OTHERS...,


Here is the Link:>>>

FLOYDMAYWEATHERBOXINGCOMMISION.COM


Taong Bato wrote:
Actually Leonard himself was accused of steroids coming to the Hearns fight.

The Subversive wrote:
they didnt have the blood testing technology back then dude

JoeyInCali blasted:
Another example why Pacfans have a bad reputation of being dumb about boxing.

Concon: wrote:
Gayweather wins is also questionable by using Xylocaine drug.

Reigncourts answers:

Taong Bato is correct on Leonard but NSAC (All Commissions) didn’t test for steroids
that time.

The Subversive is correct. In Sugar Ray Robinson’s & Ali’s time Steroids, EPO & HGH didn’t exist in the market.

Concon is correct. Xylocaine is not allowed a week before a fight by NSAC for safety reasons.

The facts are:
Tests for steroids started in 2000 for USADA & 2005 for NSAC.
Tests for EPO started about 2000 for USADA & None for NSAC.
Tests for HGH started about 2000 for USADA only but not scientifically sound.

Reason I posted this is to show that not all Pinoys are dumb about Boxing, at least in
relation to Random Blood B/S of the Mayweather Commission. In fact I am willing to
debate with JoeyInCali on this subject one of these days, just to prove not all PacFans
like us are dumb about boxing. Lets erase that "bad reputation" (?) guys!
Reference links:
A Scientific Analysis of the Random Blood Test Fallacy Parts I to V.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dp_RyoowXw
Start with Part V and work back to Part I for more reads, or
How did Manny accept Full Random OST?
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176728&hilit=

Author:  JoeyInCali [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

Quote:
In fact I am willing to
debate with JoeyInCali on this subject one of these days, just to prove not all PacFans
like us are dumb about boxing. Lets erase that "bad reputation" (?) guys!

Why would I want to debate?
The thread title and the original post are pretty dumb.

Author:  helven [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

Anabolic steroids were already in the States in the late 50's reportedly used by weightlifters and bodybuilders. In the 60's, the drug was rumored to have been used by elite athletes competing in the Olympics. We could only surmise if Ali, among others, had used them but it was already rampant not only in boxing but in other sports (football, hockey, etc.) as well. Of course, boxing commissions didn't have medical committee then designated to conduct tests for fighters.

Author:  THE MEXICAN [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

JoeyInCali wrote:
Quote:
In fact I am willing to
debate with JoeyInCali on this subject one of these days, just to prove not all PacFans
like us are dumb about boxing. Lets erase that "bad reputation" (?) guys!

Why would I want to debate?
The thread title and the original post are pretty dumb.


he loves to defend this kind of stuff.... :biglaugh:

Author:  reigncourts [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

THE MEXICAN wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
Quote:
In fact I am willing to
debate with JoeyInCali on this subject one of these days, just to prove not all PacFans
like us are dumb about boxing. Lets erase that "bad reputation" (?) guys!

Why would I want to debate?
The thread title and the original post are pretty dumb.


he loves to defend this kind of stuff.... :biglaugh:


Yes, especially the stuff your countrymen smuggles thru the borders. :D

Author:  reigncourts [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

JoeyInCali wrote:
Quote:
In fact I am willing to
debate with JoeyInCali on this subject one of these days, just to prove not all PacFans
like us are dumb about boxing. Lets erase that "bad reputation" (?) guys!

Why would I want to debate?
The thread title and the original post are pretty dumb.


It's alright then. I just thought you may be like an expert on drug testing, and at the same time wonder how this subject is related to boxing knowledge that made a "bad reputation" on PacFans.

Author:  reigncourts [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

The title and the first post are still considered correct even in the time of Ali & Ray Robinson. Being his own Commissioner he can say I have proof I'm clean because I have never been tested positive in all my fights. Ali & Robinson don't have proofs because no tests were done.

But my counter to that is. How can Floyd be sure he is clean when he himself claimed NSAC testing has not been reliable at all.

In short, TS title and post is correct and don't make PacFans look bad at all.

Author:  helven [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

THE MEXICAN wrote:
JoeyInCali wrote:
reigncourts wrote:
In fact I am willing to
debate with JoeyInCali on this subject one of these days, just to prove not all PacFans
like us are dumb about boxing. Lets erase that "bad reputation" (?) guys!

Why would I want to debate?
The thread title and the original post are pretty dumb.


he loves to defend this kind of stuff.... :biglaugh:


....and probably would want to extend his losing streak. :spin:
:peace:

Author:  THE MEXICAN [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

reigncourts wrote:
THE MEXICAN wrote:

he loves to defend this kind of stuff.... :biglaugh:


Yes, especially the stuff your countrymen smuggles thru the borders. :D


pretty stupid line... see? a pactard thru and thru... clap clap!

Author:  reigncourts [ Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MUHAMMAD ALI, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, LEONARD ON STEROIDS!

TheMexican:
he loves to defend this kind of stuff.... :biglaugh:

Helven:
....and probably would want to extend his losing streak. :spin:
:peace:

Reignccourts:
And why are you here? I thought I'll meet you at my new thread?
Hey, fill me in with--is the guy really Mexican? You know were only
joking about this stuff. :) Watch for that new thread. I need another
win to make it, 3 win, 0 loss for me. :D

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