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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:15 pm 
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To my fellow Paclanders,

Against the Grain: On the Pacquiao-Margarito Fight

LINK: http://thecruelestsport.com/2010/08/29/ ... ito-fight/ by Carlos Acevedo dated 29August 2010

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Everyone has a “solution” to the pending fight between PACQUIAO and MARGARITO. Some Writers, Who Apparently Have NO IDEA How Boxing Economics Work, are also playing matchmaker, offering their expertise to name “WORTHIER” Opponents. PACQUIAO Should Do This, PACQUIAO Should Do That, PACQUIAO Should Be ASHAMED To Fight MARGARITO, He Should Face The RING LightWeight Champion of the world, he should fight More Deserving Challengers,

like TIM BRADLEY, whose promoter, Gary Shaw, Has To LURK Around the Box Office at the Agua Caliente Casino like The Scarlet Pimpernel, Buying Up Tickets to EnSure that BRADLEY Scores a “Sell-Out.” Or how about ANDRE BERTO? You know, the Multi-Millionaire who CanNot SELL Enough Tickets To Half-Fill a Dumb Waiter in a Victorian Mansion? BERTO—and This Point CanNot Be Hammered Home Enough—SOLD A PATHETIC "972" TICKETS For his Last World Title Defense In His OWN Home State. More HomeLess People gather around a TrashCan BonFire in wintry New York City THAN Are Interested in Paying To See BERTO Fight.

Naturally, Dan Goosen throws PAUL WILLIAMS into the mix, because Goosen has an appointment book full of blank pages. And some of the experts also think WILLIAMS “DESERVES” the fight. But no promoter in his right mind would put Pacquiao in with Paul Williams because Williams has not made the welterweight limit in over two years. This in itself is a threat to any promotion. Combine this with the fact that Williams cannot sell tickets or draw viewers and is a southpaw who stands 6’1 with an 82” reach and you have the ultimate “Are you kidding?” moment for a promoter or manager. This is just common sense.

Timothy Bradley, Paul Williams, and Andre Berto were all featured in a recent issue of Ring magazine in a feature story entitled “The Empty Seat Dilemma.”



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:20 am 
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Nice article. Hopefully, those guys, even Paclanders that are questioning the Pac-Marga fight, and are insisting that Manny fight those guys mentioned here, namely, Berto/Bradely/Williams finally understand that it's all about economics, and who can make the most money for the Pacman.

HBO sure understand, which is why this fight will be on HBO PPV. Jerry Jones does as well, with this fight expected to draw 60,000-70,000 fans at the gate, and maybe even more.

I would have preferred Vegas, but the license issue didn't get resolved, and presto we have to go to Dallas to see this fight live.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:35 am 
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flipgolfer wrote:
Nice article. Hopefully, those guys, even Paclanders that are questioning the Pac-Marga fight, and are insisting that Manny fight those guys mentioned here, namely, Berto/Bradely/Williams finally understand that it's all about economics, and who can make the most money for the Pacman.

HBO sure understand, which is why this fight will be on HBO PPV. Jerry Jones does as well, with this fight expected to draw 60,000-70,000 fans at the gate, and maybe even more.

I would have preferred Vegas, but the license issue didn't get resolved, and presto we have to go to Dallas to see this fight live.

+YES, that's very correct bro.
I can't understand why some bradley, berto, williams Fans INSISTING that these boxers listed are Much More DESERVING than 3x welterweight world champion Antonio Margarito. these (3) were NOT Yet proven in PPV's or Can Not even DRAW 5,000 in Live Gate Attendance.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:40 am 
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Bradley, Berto, Williams have not fought big names while Margarito had fought guys like
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Sergio Martinez
Joshua Clottey
Sugar Shane Mosley
Kermit Cintron

and 44 fights
and was ducked by Floyd Mayweather Jr.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:57 am 
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THESE 3 should box ala round robin first. The have a lot to prove first. If they're really good boxer then let them fight each other.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:59 am 
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Mars318 wrote:
Bradley, Berto, Williams have not fought big names while Margarito had fought guys like
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Sergio Martinez
Joshua Clottey
Sugar Shane Mosley
Kermit Cintron

and 44 fights
and was ducked by Floyd Mayweather Jr.

+Yes bro, That's the very good reason.
Thanks for sharing. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:26 am 
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This is BS. You say those three boxers couldn't sell tickets? Clotey could only sell 5 tickets and still got a fight with Pack!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:29 am 
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Llaneta wrote:
This is BS. You say those three boxers couldn't sell tickets? Clotey could only sell 5 tickets and still got a fight with Pack!

+as what Arum said, he doesn't like these (3) to have a "free ride" against MP.
Syempre si Clottey is under same banner(TopRank).

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:35 am 
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Llaneta wrote:
This is BS. You say those three boxers couldn't sell tickets? Clotey could only sell 5 tickets and still got a fight with Pack!


This is BS. Clotey got a fight with Pac but he was not the main draw. Even then, Clottey figured in a duel with Cotto where he lost steam, or was too confident that he relaxed in the last 2 or 3 rounds.

How about those 3, more particulary Berto and Bradley, what significant fights did they have that would rival Margarito? How many spectators bought seats and PPV? :biglaugh:


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die hard!!! wrote:
flipgolfer wrote:
Nice article. Hopefully, those guys, even Paclanders that are questioning the Pac-Marga fight, and are insisting that Manny fight those guys mentioned here, namely, Berto/Bradely/Williams finally understand that it's all about economics, and who can make the most money for the Pacman.

HBO sure understand, which is why this fight will be on HBO PPV. Jerry Jones does as well, with this fight expected to draw 60,000-70,000 fans at the gate, and maybe even more.

I would have preferred Vegas, but the license issue didn't get resolved, and presto we have to go to Dallas to see this fight live.

+YES, that's very correct bro.
I can't understand why some bradley, berto, williams Fans INSISTING that these boxers listed are Much More DESERVING than 3x welterweight world champion Antonio Margarito. these (3) were NOT Yet proven in PPV's or Can Not even DRAW 5,000 in Live Gate Attendance.


Kissing Margarito's behind again huh Die Hard... or is it Arum's behind... I can't tell anymore.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:46 am 
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kilikili wrote:
die hard!!! wrote:
flipgolfer wrote:
Nice article. Hopefully, those guys, even Paclanders that are questioning the Pac-Marga fight, and are insisting that Manny fight those guys mentioned here, namely, Berto/Bradely/Williams finally understand that it's all about economics, and who can make the most money for the Pacman.

HBO sure understand, which is why this fight will be on HBO PPV. Jerry Jones does as well, with this fight expected to draw 60,000-70,000 fans at the gate, and maybe even more.

I would have preferred Vegas, but the license issue didn't get resolved, and presto we have to go to Dallas to see this fight live.

+YES, that's very correct bro.
I can't understand why some bradley, berto, williams Fans INSISTING that these boxers listed are Much More DESERVING than 3x welterweight world champion Antonio Margarito. these (3) were NOT Yet proven in PPV's or Can Not even DRAW 5,000 in Live Gate Attendance.


Kissing Margarito's behind again huh Die Hard... or is it Arum's behind... I can't tell anymore.

+bro, sana nman walang bastusan. PASALAMAT tayo at hindi natin kaharap ang kausap at naka tago tayo sa Computer.
baket ba "personal attack" ka na PALAGI?
IF You Can NOT Contribute/Share about the thread topic then just IGNORE it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:55 am 
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Calma lang bro Diehard! Myself don't like margarito,because of his action the last fight he did, but I have no choice. Arum is in business and if you have nothing to bring to the table to him , you are out of topic.With regards to Clottey who sell only 5 tickets he's not concerned of that. Arum knows that Manny could fill in the vacuum and no one except him[arum] profited what he toiled.In short GREED.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:39 am 
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Mars318 wrote:
Bradley, Berto, Williams have not fought big names while Margarito had fought guys like
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Sergio Martinez
Joshua Clottey
Sugar Shane Mosley
Kermit Cintron

and 44 fights
and was ducked by Floyd Mayweather Jr.


I fully agree. Ask helven.

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i wonder if those guys will be willing to accept an "80-20 split" arrangement?! :? :biglaugh:

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dencioPT101 wrote:
i wonder if those guys will be willing to accept an "80-20 split" arrangement?! :? :biglaugh:

Probably will. If you're earning 50k for years and here comes the opportune time to earn millions plus more exposure, why not? Belt would probably less matter.


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