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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:50 pm 
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Now that we all saw a very dangerous moment can come in boxing if the commission will not step in during crucial stage. In my belief its about time the commission can adopt rule that covers their decision to stop the fight if nobody cares inside the ring as long as they see its extremely dangerous for a fighter to continue under a very fragile circumstances.

Doctor, coach and referee sometimes do wants to extend the fight specially if it is real action pack, they do forget the biggest danger a beaten fighter will undergo. If Pacquiao happens to be another fighter who is looking for a big knockout, you never can tell where Margarito is at this moment, virtually defenseless he can be dropped to the pulp at the 11th, but, knowing Manny who have a humble heart and no intention to extremely hurt his opponent he was just lucky. General consensus though indirectly reveal it was Manny who really saved Margarito.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:54 pm 
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He figure if tony get lucky for one punch ko manny he'll get the best trainer awards end of the year. Can I say robert G. Is a wanna be? But his a bum

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:56 pm 
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dapat kasi tapusin na kaagad ni pacquiao pag nakita niya nadama na ng kalaban ang malakas niyang suntok. wag na patagalin at bugbugin, kahit cheater eh nakakaawa rin. pero kung si cotto tayo i'd say buti nga sa kanya.

it was during round 4 na makita nating pwedeng pwede patulugin ni pacquiao si marg.
nagpigil lang siguro kasi tatahol na naman yung mga unggoy na sabi na he's on a-side meth.
kasi napakaliit niya at mababa ang timbang kumpara sa kalaban tapos napatumba niya.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:08 pm 
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are you referring to my idol?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:24 pm 
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this is where you can compare a hall of fame trainer to a patsy trainer.Nacho stopped the De La Hoya fight even though the damage done was not yet evident and his reason? Pacquiao is too fast and a KO is impossible. Garcia put Margarito's career on the line for a chance to beat the best trainer. :?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:32 pm 
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Margo wants to quit at the 11th but Garcia said, go ahead.....

Then during the interview, Garcia said Margo will not let him stop the fight.

Garcia is a liar. I don't know about this Mexican machismo.


not at all, i know what they were saying, garcia in the 11th and 12th only asked him how he feel, margo was assuring him he was ok and can continue...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:37 pm 
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this is where you can compare a hall of fame trainer to a patsy trainer.Nacho stopped the De La Hoya fight even though the damage done was not yet evident and his reason? Pacquiao is too fast and a KO is impossible. Garcia put Margarito's career on the line for a chance to beat the best trainer. :?


nope, nacho says he believed oscar could have lasted the 12 rounds but his point was to protect his prestige somehow from further embarrasment, he told oscar he was stopping the fight and that "un boxeador de tu nivel no puede arrastrar su prestigio asi por el ring" a boxer of your level cannot drag his prestige in the ring like this...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:17 pm 
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RaMoNe wrote:
now that margarito will have surgery for a broken right eye socket, u can now shove that "i am a mexican and i will not quit" macho crap up ur a$$

freddie is right (once again). garcia should have stopped the fight before round 11 started to protect his boxer from further and hence unnecessary harm. what if marg suffered more than just an eye socket injury? what if his eyes suffered injuries as well and we all know wat happens if the athletic commissions find out u have eye problems, ur boxing career is practically over

the only way margarito can win that fight was to KO manny but u cant hit someone u can barely see and as fast as manny. mexicans have already proven to the whole world their hearts and no one doubts it but if against the baddest man in boxing, there is no shame in losing to manny pacquiao.




truth is: both Cole and Garcia should have stopped the fight before reaching rd 11 but both Cole and Garcia are after of kicking the a$$ of Manny that in the process they ran out of right reason. they were just after their target to stop Manny and forgot that Margo's health was already on the verge of destruction. Cole and Garcia executed a very very very poor decision by allowing Margo to finish 12 rds with the false hope of knocking Pac out. Cole should be banned from becoming a referee again and Garcia exposed himself as an ***** trainer. he can't match F. Roach, Never, NADA.

and....Nonito Donaire MUST at once get out of Garcia's mentor-ship...he needs F. Roach to become a superstar.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:18 pm 
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RaMoNe wrote:
now that margarito will have surgery for a broken right eye socket, u can now shove that "i am a mexican and i will not quit" macho crap up ur a$$

freddie is right (once again). garcia should have stopped the fight before round 11 started to protect his boxer from further and hence unnecessary harm. what if marg suffered more than just an eye socket injury? what if his eyes suffered injuries as well and we all know wat happens if the athletic commissions find out u have eye problems, ur boxing career is practically over

the only way margarito can win that fight was to KO manny but u cant hit someone u can barely see and as fast as manny. mexicans have already proven to the whole world their hearts and no one doubts it but if against the baddest man in boxing, there is no shame in losing to manny pacquiao.




truth is: both Cole and Garcia should have stopped the fight before reaching rd 11 but both Cole and Garcia are after of kicking the a$$ of Manny that in the process they ran out of right reason. they were just after their target to stop Manny and forgot that Margo's health was already on the verge of destruction. Cole and Garcia executed a very very very poor decision by allowing Margo to finish 12 rds with the false hope of knocking Pac out. Cole should be banned from becoming a referee again and Garcia exposed himself as an ***** trainer. he can't match F. Roach, Never, NADA.

and....Nonito Donaire MUST at once get out of Garcia's mentor-ship...he needs F. Roach to become a superstar.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:40 pm 
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The Butcher wrote:
RaMoNe wrote:
now that margarito will have surgery for a broken right eye socket, u can now shove that "i am a mexican and i will not quit" macho crap up ur a$$

freddie is right (once again). garcia should have stopped the fight before round 11 started to protect his boxer from further and hence unnecessary harm. what if marg suffered more than just an eye socket injury? what if his eyes suffered injuries as well and we all know wat happens if the athletic commissions find out u have eye problems, ur boxing career is practically over

the only way margarito can win that fight was to KO manny but u cant hit someone u can barely see and as fast as manny. mexicans have already proven to the whole world their hearts and no one doubts it but if against the baddest man in boxing, there is no shame in losing to manny pacquiao.


This too. That orbital fracture could've happened anywhere between the 4th and 10th. What if Manny didn't show any mercy and went for the KO in the 11th and 12th? And what if he hammered that fracture even more? What could've happened to Tony then?

I think it was Robert's pride I feel, among other things, going up against Roach in the world stage. He better learn from this.

can't agree more

if marga was too proud to quit, his corner could've raised the flag in the later unnecessary rounds


thats the problem in a team where the boss is the boxer and not the trainer.
the trainer/coach having problem deciding about stopping the fight or not.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:43 pm 
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i hope margarito will be all right and would still be able to continue his boxing career. i heard Bob Arum is planning a cotto vs. margarito rematch. it should be an exciting figh at 154lbs without catchweights.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:02 pm 
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the manager just said margo had double vision after a punch in the 4th... dang! :shock:

They should have use a tampon under that eye. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:04 pm 
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truth is: both Cole and Garcia should have stopped the fight before reaching rd 11 but both Cole and Garcia are after of kicking the a$$ of Manny that in the process they ran out of right reason. they were just after their target to stop Manny and forgot that Margo's health was already on the verge of destruction. Cole and Garcia executed a very very very poor decision by allowing Margo to finish 12 rds with the false hope of knocking Pac out. Cole should be banned from becoming a referee again and Garcia exposed himself as an ***** trainer. he can't match F. Roach, Never, NADA.

Cole is an idi0t.
When Pac whacked Mgrto with that right hook and Mgrto looked he was going to pass out and go in a coma, he should have stopped it. " How many fingers do you see?"
WTF was that ? That's in the amateurs.
When the fighter can no longer effectively defend himself and his chance of winning is almost zero, you stop the fight.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:10 pm 
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Poor Garcia.....his pride got in the way since he has never lost to Roach.......there's a first time to everything.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:19 pm 
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THE MEXICAN wrote:
loopback wrote:
this is where you can compare a hall of fame trainer to a patsy trainer.Nacho stopped the De La Hoya fight even though the damage done was not yet evident and his reason? Pacquiao is too fast and a KO is impossible. Garcia put Margarito's career on the line for a chance to beat the best trainer. :?


nope, nacho says he believed oscar could have lasted the 12 rounds but his point was to protect his prestige somehow from further embarrasment, he told oscar he was stopping the fight and that "un boxeador de tu nivel no puede arrastrar su prestigio asi por el ring" a boxer of your level cannot drag his prestige in the ring like this...


you may be right, but if you are going to look back at the ODLH fight, you can hear Nacho ( from the translator of course) saying " Shall we stop the fight? He's too fast". And these comments were from the actual fight itself and not from the post fight comments wherein it could be scripted or just a sympathy to protect ODLH image. anyway, this is not the whole point here, the point is Nacho cares for his fighters while Garcia do not.


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