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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:41 am 
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Finally finished the fight today and WTF?? I must have watched a different fight compared to those people blabbering about how good JMM got robbed :(


I watch and replayed each round without audio and written all time marks of the hits. If any of you want to dispute on how i score it. then i am all for it. bring it.


Round 1 Pacquiao ( Slightly Clear )
Round 2 Pacquiao ( Could have gone either way )
Round 3 Pacquiao ( Could have gone either way )
Round 4 Pacquiao ( Slightly clear )
Round 5 Marquez ( Clear )
Round 6 Pacquao ( Could have gone either way )
Round 7 Marquez ( Clear )
Round 8 Marquez ( Could have gone either way )
Round 9 Pacquiao ( Terribly close Could have gone either way )
Round 10 Pacquio ( Terribly close Could have gone either way )
Round 11 Marquez ( Terribly close Could go either way *Right hand by JMM cliched it at the end )
Round 12 Pacquiao ( Slightly Clear )


How i score it
1. Clear and harder blows weigh more. I like harder shots than beautiful counters
2. If its all even i gave it to the aggressor who brings the fight for if he doesnt and both of them waited. it would be a dull fight.
* Most judges have this criteria


Official Judge for the fight Glen Trowbridge had it 116-112 as well
so is Harold Ledderman who is also an official judge

If we swing all the extremely close rounds we'll end up 115-113 for Juan Manuel Marquez


so any score between 116-112 to 114-114 is a good score. I repeat any of the following is a GOOD SCORING for this FIGHT.


116-112 for Pacquiao up to 116-112 for Marquez.


What happened

1. Crowd is at least 75% mexican who moaned and scream at every JMM combination and mute at Pac's expolits
2. the whole crowd and the viewers inclyuding those fighters watching were expecting Pac to blew JMM out of the water
3. All other people are cheerleading for Marquez that muted and influenced some of the filipinos lol

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:46 am 
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Yes but you are not ringside and you are not a judge?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:47 am 
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Put your name on the kambyo group list mod. :biglaugh:

Nice observation. I scored it 115-113 Pacquiao.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:49 am 
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no doubt that there were a lot of rounds that could have gone either way. i had it 115-113 for pacquiao. but i won't argue with anyone who had it the other way around.

one thing about your post, though bro. Harold Lederman was not an official judge.


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jtfunky wrote:
Put your name on the kambyo group list mod. :biglaugh:

Nice observation. I scored it 115-113 Pacquiao.



I did not kambyo. this is my first score

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no doubt that there were a lot of rounds that could have gone either way. i had it 115-113 for pacquiao. but i won't argue with anyone who had it the other way around.

one thing about your post, though bro. Harold Lederman was not an official judge.


he is an official judge but not for this fight.

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cyraxx wrote:
Yes but you are not ringside and you are not a judge?



Yes i am not ringside and i am not a judge.

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i fully agree with you on this, mod.

add that the expectation of most fans and boxing experts is that pacman will completely dominate if not knock marquez out.

i also think that it was a predominantly mexican crowd. you can hear them singing, chanting marquez! marquez! and reacting to everything marquez throws even if a lot of them are actually soft shots and a lot are actually blocked by manny's gloves.

going into the introduction when manny's name was announced by buffer the usual cheers are not as loud as before. i was wondering how come we were outnumbered this time around?! :shock:

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jtfunky wrote:
Put your name on the kambyo group list mod. :biglaugh:

Nice observation. I scored it 115-113 Pacquiao.


i now realized i have the same score 115-113 for pacman for all the 3 fights! :D

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:59 am 
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if only they score the fight by watching replay...too bad they dont...i mean they should just let them fight..watch the replay...and score later..hahah :peace: :peace:

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first time i saw the fight o thought jmm won the fight.....but after i ve watch the replay and scored carefully round by round i saw it as 116-112 for pacquiao


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freeworld wrote:
if only they score the fight by watching replay...too bad they dont...i mean they should just let them fight..watch the replay...and score later..hahah :peace: :peace:


That's the reason why Manny clearly won. The official verdict was done live and every after the end of the round. Replay just justify what the official judges has seen live with the benefit of mute and slowmo.


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freeworld wrote:
if only they score the fight by watching replay...too bad they dont...i mean they should just let them fight..watch the replay...and score later..hahah :peace: :peace:



I dont see your point.


I scored it on a replay with 116-112 same as throwbridge who was at the fight as official judge.


so again what is your message or contribution to this thread?

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NoFear_Pac wrote:

That's the reason why Manny clearly won. The official verdict was done live and every after the end of the round. Replay just justify what the official judges has seen live with the benefit of mute and slowmo.



This is my other answer :)

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dencioPT101 wrote:
i fully agree with you on this, mod.

add that the expectation of most fans and boxing experts is that pacman will completely dominate if not knock marquez out.

i also think that it was a predominantly mexican crowd. you can hear them singing, chanting marquez! marquez! and reacting to everything marquez throws even if a lot of them are actually soft shots and a lot are actually blocked by manny's gloves.

going into the introduction when manny's name was announced by buffer the usual cheers are not as loud as before. i was wondering how come we were outnumbered this time around?! :shock:


Bro I think the crowd scenario explains the too much expectations of Manny fans for this fight. Marquez was not their best choice as Manny's opponent for them to watch it live. They expected Manny to blow-out JMM in a short fight.

On the other hand, Mexicans find their last hope in JMM to beat Manny.


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