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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:37 pm 
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I think what really happened was:

the commentators' opinion and reaction to the fight played a very big factor to the mind of those who watched the Philippine live broadcast.

Correct me if i am wrong but i think it was Mario & Colonel Sheridan who acted as commentators in the Solar Sports broadcast, both of whom thought Marquez won.

It was a very close fight, and probably the people who were watching that broadcast somehow got swayed by the comments made by the commentators.

In addition, it's also possible that some of those people watching the broadcast don't really know how to score a fight. Remember that Marquez had some clear rounds. While the other rounds were very close. Getting 1 or 2 clear rounds doesn't necessarily mean getting the bigger points -- in comparison to getting a close round (it would still be scored 10-9).


Personally, i think the fight was very close, with a lot of close rounds. But the thing is, Marquez was not aggressive enough in most of the close rounds. Marquez even stepped off the gas in the championship rounds and it was evident in Round 12 that Marquez's punches no longer had the sting, he was actually throwing wild shots. Marquez faded in the last rounds. I think this was what cost him the fight.


Yung ganung performance ni Marquez is just not enough to win a championship. If you want to win a championship, never "coast" and step off the gas lalo na sa championship rounds.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:40 pm 
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this is big news!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:43 pm 
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Ngayon, etong si D'source naman, na nakinood yata sa Philsports, na-influence din yata ng commentators at ng mga tao dun sa Philsports kaya sa tingin nya, nanalo din si Marquez.

Actually, when i watched the replay with the volume down, i saw a clear Pac win. It was a beauty to see Pac's counters although some may not appreciate it because of Pac's awkward style.


Pac was actually connecting but since Pac is naturally awkward, it's difficult to appreciate those connections.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:52 pm 
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And, by the time na pinalabas yung delayed telecast, nakaukit na sa isip ng mga tao na dapat "panalo" si Marquez kaya sa isip nila eh panalo si Marquez dun.


Ang masasabi ko lang, watch the replay with the volume down and be objective.


Pac won the fight.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:54 pm 
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wala tayong magagawa sa mga taong pang-karaniwan lang na nanonood.. yung mga taong gusto lang makita na KO-hin ni Pacman si Marquez... opinyon nila yon... pero may iba, matalino naman pero wala namang pinagkakatalinuhan pagdating sa boxing... yung tipong hanggang opinyon lang ang maibibigay ngunit walang mai-present na facts... ako, opinyon lang ang maibibigay ko pero makakapagbigay ako ng suporta sa opinyon ko...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:56 pm 
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mga bro, ang talanga palakarin mo man ng diretso, talangka pa rin
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:01 pm 
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o sya cge na panalo na si manny, hanggang ngayon ba eh hindi matapos tapos yan!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:04 pm 
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joevel wrote:
o sya cge na panalo na si manny, hanggang ngayon ba eh hindi matapos tapos yan!


eh sa gusto naming pag usapan eh. pulis ka ba? may marshall law ba dito? bawal ba pag usapan? kung ayaw mo pag usapan e di umalis ka dito!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:31 pm 
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jasperbad wrote:
joevel wrote:
o sya cge na panalo na si manny, hanggang ngayon ba eh hindi matapos tapos yan!


eh sa gusto naming pag usapan eh. pulis ka ba? may marshall law ba dito? bawal ba pag usapan? kung ayaw mo pag usapan e di umalis ka dito!


Someone just went to Jollibee, ordered yumburger, finished it. They say "Puro na lang ba yum burger nandito? nakakasuka na kayo, wala bang BIC MAC?" :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:41 pm 
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jasperbad wrote:
joevel wrote:
o sya cge na panalo na si manny, hanggang ngayon ba eh hindi matapos tapos yan!


eh sa gusto naming pag usapan eh. pulis ka ba? may marshall law ba dito? bawal ba pag usapan? kung ayaw mo pag usapan e di umalis ka dito!


puso mo...
cge na nga bro tapusin mo na yan.. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:42 pm 
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joeylarracas wrote:
jasperbad wrote:
joevel wrote:
o sya cge na panalo na si manny, hanggang ngayon ba eh hindi matapos tapos yan!


eh sa gusto naming pag usapan eh. pulis ka ba? may marshall law ba dito? bawal ba pag usapan? kung ayaw mo pag usapan e di umalis ka dito!


Someone just went to Jollibee, ordered yumburger, finished it. They say "Puro na lang ba yum burger nandito? nakakasuka na kayo, wala bang BIC MAC?" :mrgreen:



Ang bobo kasi eh. Gusto nya na pala matapos eh pumunta punta pa dito at nag post pa. Kung di ba naman sya sandamukal na tanga. :lol:

Sorry if i am mean. Please forgive me.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:06 am 
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WetphaX wrote:
jasperbad wrote:
joevel wrote:
o sya cge na panalo na si manny, hanggang ngayon ba eh hindi matapos tapos yan!


eh sa gusto naming pag usapan eh. pulis ka ba? may marshall law ba dito? bawal ba pag usapan? kung ayaw mo pag usapan e di umalis ka dito!


puso mo...
cge na nga bro tapusin mo na yan.. :lol:



na high blood ako sa mokong na yun eh. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:35 pm 
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I agree to most of you that Pac won, but the disappointment of boxing fans cannot be avoided because it was not really the explosive Manny, that night. Forget the KO or the KD, but we are expecting a superior Pac against the aging Marquez. I was so surprised seeing Manny receiving almost all of of Marquez's straight and looping right hand. WTH!, 'twas the same old Pac lunging forward then throwing his left, and much even worse because there were no combo's. Not even using his footwork to move in the opposite direction of Marquez's right, and initiate an attack. I dunno, perhaps you guys know better boxing techniques, but that's what I saw. Try seeing again the Pac-Cotto fight, and you'll see the difference in Manny on those two fights.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:39 pm 
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i was listening to hbo still i think marquez won. what came to my mind is that hbo commentators has to favor packy to keep boxing alive. without packy hbo boxing might downsize with this economy.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:43 pm 
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joevel wrote:
o sya cge na panalo na si manny, hanggang ngayon ba eh hindi matapos tapos yan!


because they are so confident that Pac won, so they need a lot of propaganda....Image

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