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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:41 am 
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TheSubversive wrote:
in other words, people in glass house should not cast stones !!!

They can from the outside . :shock:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:42 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
TheSubversive wrote:
in other words, people in glass house should not cast stones !!!

They can from the outside . :shock:

:lol: the house will still get hit

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:59 am 
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maybe marquez team though not accusing, firmly believed that pacman is into steroids, reason why they acquired the services of a steroid master to level the playing field.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:02 am 
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keywizard74 wrote:
Erap wrote:
The irony, Pac fans alleging another boxer's PED usage.

Should people continue to hound Pacquiao with PED use because he still has Sladeck in his inner circle?




Sladeck is not Pacs conditioning coach,what a logic eh?FAIL!



not quite...Freddie Roach is also known to have trained fighters who took steroids, while Roach had knowledge

Sladeck is an insignificant link, but Roach is not.

and it is quite hypocritical for someone like HUNA to bring up Heredia and Marquez while he had a crusade against OSDT for the last 2 years :lol: :lol: :lol:

Roach is NOT as stupid as you are to continue to allow steroids in his gym.
That is another shameless accusation again Subversive.
Totally classless.
Conte has more access to PEDs than Roach ever has.
Hypocrite.

As with Heredia, that guy admitted that he has ways to go around the procedures.
Unless the authorities blackmail him again as what they did the first time,
any testing body will not catch him red handed.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:19 am 
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Roach is NOT as stupid as you are to continue to allow steroids in his gym.
That is another shameless accusation again Subversive.
Totally classless.
Conte has more access to PEDs than Roach ever has.
Hypocrite.

As with Heredia, that guy admitted that he has ways to go around the procedures.
Unless the authorities blackmail him again as what they did the first time,
any testing body will not catch him red handed.



So, is it right to accuse another HOF trainer, like Nacho, of being stupid to allow steroids in his gym?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:26 am 
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TheSubversive wrote:
in other words, people in glasses houses should not cast stones !!!

I wish you can hear yourself saying this. Hypocrisy at its best. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:29 am 
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Erap wrote:
kajo wrote:

Roach is NOT as stupid as you are to continue to allow steroids in his gym.
That is another shameless accusation again Subversive.
Totally classless.
Conte has more access to PEDs than Roach ever has.
Hypocrite.

As with Heredia, that guy admitted that he has ways to go around the procedures.
Unless the authorities blackmail him again as what they did the first time,
any testing body will not catch him red handed.



So, is it right to accuse another HOF trainer, like Nacho, of being stupid to allow steroids in his gym?


If you've seen 24/7, Nacho was the first one to wash his hands to knowing that Angel was the same guy linked to Balco.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:54 am 
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PacCute wrote:
Erap wrote:
kajo wrote:

Roach is NOT as stupid as you are to continue to allow steroids in his gym.
That is another shameless accusation again Subversive.
Totally classless.
Conte has more access to PEDs than Roach ever has.
Hypocrite.

As with Heredia, that guy admitted that he has ways to go around the procedures.
Unless the authorities blackmail him again as what they did the first time,
any testing body will not catch him red handed.



So, is it right to accuse another HOF trainer, like Nacho, of being stupid to allow steroids in his gym?


If you've seen 24/7, Nacho was the first one to wash his hands to knowing that Angel was the same guy linked to Balco.


Again, do you think Nacho is stupid enough to allow PED in his gym. Why is Roach allowing Sladeck in his gym?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:59 am 
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HUNA wrote:
Congratulations to Angel Heredia, None of the PEDS he gave JUAN MA came up Positive.

Angel Bragged during the BALCO trial in which he ratted on Victor Conte that for a hefty price

he could create a Designer Drug which could not be detected by USADA. Juan Ma looked better at

38 than he did at 23. While lesser men such as Juan Diaz and Kastidis lately put JMM on his back.

The Powerful Pacquiao couldn't which was shocking since he just dropped SSM. Is JMM stronger than SSM?

Angel should be getting a lot more work in boxing and the UFC now.

With or without steroids Juanita Marquez cannot beat manny

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:01 am 
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Erap wrote:
Again, do you think Nacho is stupid enough to allow PED in his gym. Why is Roach allowing Sladeck in his gym?


So should we believe Floyd is on PED's because he allows his body guards who are all roided out of their minds in his gym?


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Take the Test....Image

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:13 am 
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Erap wrote:

Again, do you think Nacho is stupid enough to allow PED in his gym. Why is Roach allowing Sladeck in his gym?


Roach knew Toney was on steroids....Image

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:14 am 
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ako c KOBanned wrote:
Take the Test....Image


What good are tests when you have PED master Heredia? :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:27 am 
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I see the SUBVERSIVE is still LYING again.

I do believe in Olympic Style Testing....Check ALL of my posts I have NEVER been Against it.
What I am against is BASTARDIZED Testing which is ISOFORM TESTING..
True Olympic Style Testing is BIOMARKERS that are taken both IN Competition and Out of Competition...I challenge anyone on this Board to Prove Otherwise.

The Subversive is such a LYING COWARD He/She won't even reveal their True Identity.

Me, My Name is Clay Cawley and I live in a Suburb outside of Salt Lake CIty, Yes the same place that has only ONE of the two USADA testing Labs in America.

Now Let's See if the LYING CRAB Subversive has the COURAGE to Reveal itself....


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:49 am 
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HUNA wrote:
I see the SUBVERSIVE is still LYING again.

I do believe in Olympic Style Testing....Check ALL of my posts I have NEVER been Against it.
What I am against is BASTARDIZED Testing which is ISOFORM TESTING..
True Olympic Style Testing is BIOMARKERS that are taken both IN Competition and Out of Competition...I challenge anyone on this Board to Prove Otherwise.

The Subversive is such a LYING COWARD He/She won't even reveal their True Identity.

Me, My Name is Clay Cawley and I live in a Suburb outside of Salt Lake CIty, Yes the same place that has only ONE of the two USADA testing Labs in America.

Now Let's See if the LYING CRAB Subversive has the COURAGE to Reveal itself....


And my argument all along is, who any test, whether it may or may not be ineffective is better than no test at all.

You are wrong for insinuating that Marquez is a cheat. You still sound hypocritical especially when Marquez has stated he would take ANY and ALL test asked of him...which BTW includes your so called "BIOMARKERS" testing

Has Manny Pacquiao agreed to be tested using your standards?

Why drag Marquez' name in the mud, it sounds very immoral and hypocritical

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