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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:07 pm 
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@ The Subversive.

I have no problem with you Challenging my Analysis.

What I do have a Problem with is you Calling me a LIAR.

I know from Second Hand Experience what RANDOM OST Testing Involves.

ISOFORM testing can be defeated with Injectable Masking Agents, Biomarkers cannot be

fooled as they are an analyzation of one's actual cells.

Hence what FLOYD has done over the last Two Years is NOT OLYMPIC STYLE TESTING.

EVen your BOY's Trainer VICTOR CONTE has explained that a Dozen Times.

Go ahead and Challenge me Legitimately but DOn't EVER call me a LIAR.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:20 pm 
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@ The Subversive.....

I also noted how you failed to reveal your identity. If you are truly a man than you should be

dignified enough to back up your statements. I myself have revealed my identity to show how

Real I am. For all we know you are just some eight year old kid who got mad at Manny cause

he didn't have enough time to autograph your Cabbage Patch Doll.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:45 pm 
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Erap wrote:
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@ ERAP....

Does Timothy Sladeck control Manny's Conditioning Efforts?

It is WELL KNOWN in the USA of Angel Heredia's Cheating in behalf of the USA Olympic Teams.

Without HEREDIA's Testimony, Victor Conte probably doesn't do ANY JAIL/PRISON time.

Heredia's Father was a renowned CHEMIST. Angel explained the science behind beating USADA.

He would create Designer Drugs in which he would remove a few Metobolites from the testosterone chain

which would allow his D-Bol, EPO and HGH concoctions to go undetected by USADA.

Sladeck couldn't pass a Chemistry Exam if the Salvation of the World Depended on it.


He doesn't have to be the conditioner. Sladeck has access to Pacquiao, right? Ariza and Sladeck are BFFs, correct? You can't be pointing fingers at Heredia without acknowledging that Pacquiao has a similar character in his midst. Otherwise, we just call that hypocrisy.

And if you insist that Heredia got away with it, then you succumb to Mayweather's argument that the NSAC test is not good enough.

Sladeck used steroids because he was a frustrated body builder.
he didn't create 20 undetectable PEDS and bragged about it.
Sladeck isn't a doctor, he doesn't have a diploma for sports science.

see the difference now between him and Heredia?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:04 pm 
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TheSubversive wrote:
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The irony, Pac fans alleging another boxer's PED usage.

Should people continue to hound Pacquiao with PED use because he still has Sladeck in his inner circle?




Sladeck is not Pacs conditioning coach,what a logic eh?FAIL!



not quite...Freddie Roach is also known to have trained fighters who took steroids, while Roach had knowledge

Sladeck is an insignificant link, but Roach is not.

and it is quite hypocritical for someone like HUNA to bring up Heredia and Marquez while he had a crusade against OSDT for the last 2 years :lol: :lol: :lol:





What funny is, the guy who is defending Pac about these steroids accusations a year ago now became a full pledge hater,hypocrisy to the highest level..

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Erap wrote:
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So, is it right to accuse another HOF trainer, like Nacho, of being stupid to allow steroids in his gym?


If you've seen 24/7, Nacho was the first one to wash his hands to knowing that Angel was the same guy linked to Balco.


Again, do you think Nacho is stupid enough to allow PED in his gym. Why is Roach allowing Sladeck in his gym?


To answer your question, NEVER!
But you see, a trainer like Nacho will never even know if Angel is juicing Marquez up. Not even Freddie would know if Manny has been juiced up by Alex.
And for you to know, Sladeck is not even connected to Manny's training. So quit linking that freakin' steroid user to Manny. All that he's got is the website & his hate towards a fanboi. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:29 pm 
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God is greater than steroids. JMM lost didn't he? If this dark Angel is up to something, God will ensure that he will fall :shock:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:55 pm 
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Heredia claimed that he brought "good luck" to Marquez's camp. So he decided to ink himself a unicorn. :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:29 pm 
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PacCute wrote:
Erap wrote:
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If you've seen 24/7, Nacho was the first one to wash his hands to knowing that Angel was the same guy linked to Balco.


Again, do you think Nacho is stupid enough to allow PED in his gym. Why is Roach allowing Sladeck in his gym?


To answer your question, NEVER!
But you see, a trainer like Nacho will never even know if Angel is juicing Marquez up. Not even Freddie would know if Manny has been juiced up by Alex.
And for you to know, Sladeck is not even connected to Manny's training. So quit linking that freakin' steroid user to Manny. All that he's got is the website & his hate towards a fanboi. :lol:


Like i said, Sladeck has access to Pacquiao. You said you watch 24/7, do you not see where Sladeck was during Pacquiao's training? He is right there.

The point is, Pacquiao fans shouldn't be pointing fingers. NSAC tests already gave negative results. Fingers could easily be pointed at Pacquiao too. What you are just doing is giving credibility to Mayweather's argument. You are making his case. You are just saying that he is right about the testing.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:37 pm 
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Frighty wrote:
Sladeck used steroids because he was a frustrated body builder.
he didn't create 20 undetectable PEDS and bragged about it.
Sladeck isn't a doctor, he doesn't have a diploma for sports science.

see the difference now between him and Heredia?


So...what you are saying is that only doctors and people with sports science diplomas can deal PEDs?

Or like Heredia, Sladeck was know or have admitted to have access to steroids or PEDs. And do Sladeck not have access to Pacquiao and has a very close acquaintance with Pacquiao's trainer? Again, when you point finger, remember... Three other fingers points back to you.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:01 pm 
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TheSubversive wrote:
keywizard74 wrote:
Erap wrote:
The irony, Pac fans alleging another boxer's PED usage.

Should people continue to hound Pacquiao with PED use because he still has Sladeck in his inner circle?




Sladeck is not Pacs conditioning coach,what a logic eh?FAIL!



not quite...Freddie Roach is also known to have trained fighters who took steroids, while Roach had knowledge

Sladeck is an insignificant link, but Roach is not.

and it is quite hypocritical for someone like HUNA to bring up Heredia and Marquez while he had a crusade against OSDT for the last 2 years :lol: :lol: :lol:




and you are the drug courier of JMM, RIGHT? why slam Roach when you are the one who brought thedrugs to JMM? :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:09 pm 
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TheSubversive wrote:
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I see the SUBVERSIVE is still LYING again.

I do believe in Olympic Style Testing....Check ALL of my posts I have NEVER been Against it.
What I am against is BASTARDIZED Testing which is ISOFORM TESTING..
True Olympic Style Testing is BIOMARKERS that are taken both IN Competition and Out of Competition...I challenge anyone on this Board to Prove Otherwise.

The Subversive is such a LYING COWARD He/She won't even reveal their True Identity.

Me, My Name is Clay Cawley and I live in a Suburb outside of Salt Lake CIty, Yes the same place that has only ONE of the two USADA testing Labs in America.

Now Let's See if the LYING CRAB Subversive has the COURAGE to Reveal itself....


And my argument all along is, who any test, whether it may or may not be ineffective is better than no test at all.

You are wrong for insinuating that Marquez is a cheat. You still sound hypocritical especially when Marquez has stated he would take ANY and ALL test asked of him...which BTW includes your so called "BIOMARKERS" testing

Has Manny Pacquiao agreed to be tested using your standards?

Why drag Marquez' name in the mud, it sounds very immoral and hypocritical




Well...i am the one who told you JMM is a CHEAT. and that's for real. ARE you NOT the one who brought the drugs from HEREDIA to JMM during his trainings? don't be a LIAR. LIARS go to hell anyway. and HEREDIA is your guide to hell...JMM is your compadre. YOU, Heredia and JMM are cheats. 8)

Nobody dragged the name of jmm into drug issue. HE was the one who took drugs into his system and you are the courier of Heredia's drug to JMM.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:47 am 
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Erap wrote:
Frighty wrote:
Sladeck used steroids because he was a frustrated body builder.
he didn't create 20 undetectable PEDS and bragged about it.
Sladeck isn't a doctor, he doesn't have a diploma for sports science.

see the difference now between him and Heredia?


So...what you are saying is that only doctors and people with sports science diplomas can deal PEDs?

Or like Heredia, Sladeck was know or have admitted to have access to steroids or PEDs. And do Sladeck not have access to Pacquiao and has a very close acquaintance with Pacquiao's trainer? Again, when you point finger, remember... Three other fingers points back to you.


So what about Floyd? He's got roided out WWE reject bodyguards around him.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:03 am 
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El Indio wrote:
Erap wrote:
Frighty wrote:
Sladeck used steroids because he was a frustrated body builder.
he didn't create 20 undetectable PEDS and bragged about it.
Sladeck isn't a doctor, he doesn't have a diploma for sports science.

see the difference now between him and Heredia?


So...what you are saying is that only doctors and people with sports science diplomas can deal PEDs?

Or like Heredia, Sladeck was know or have admitted to have access to steroids or PEDs. And do Sladeck not have access to Pacquiao and has a very close acquaintance with Pacquiao's trainer? Again, when you point finger, remember... Three other fingers points back to you.


So what about Floyd? He's got roided out WWE reject bodyguards around him.


If you want to go this route... then all of them. Pacquiao, Marquez, Mayweather should be suspected of steroids. Pacquiao fans should make up your mind. Is NSAC testing not enough? Is it the company you keep? Guilty by association. What is it?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:26 am 
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While anyone can get Steroids not just ANYONE has the Ability to chemically alter the substances

that they ingest, It takes a Real Chemist to be able to do that.

To suggest that a typical gym rat is able to that is just ridiculous.

Juan Ma, came in FLABBY and SLOW when he weighed 142 against Mayweather at 36 years old.

He hires the PED DEALER that Put Victor Conte behind Bars and Now he looks better now than he

did at 23 years old. And to suggest that Timothy Sladeck has the chemical background to remove

metabolites in a testosterone chain is just irrational.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:33 am 
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HUNA wrote:
While anyone can get Steroids not just ANYONE has the Ability to chemically alter the substances

that they ingest, It takes a Real Chemist to be able to do that.

To suggest that a typical gym rat is able to that is just ridiculous.

Juan Ma, came in FLABBY and SLOW when he weighed 142 against Mayweather at 36 years old.

He hires the PED DEALER that Put Victor Conte behind Bars and Now he looks better now than he

did at 23 years old. And to suggest that Timothy Sladeck has the chemical background to remove

metabolites in a testosterone chain is just irrational.



Look at you... not too long ago, you're one of those crying that Pacquiao is unjustly being accused. That Pacquiao is being NSAC tested...That Pacquaio's gain in size and speed is all natural. This and that.

Who suggested Sladeck has the chemical background? Does he or doesn't he have the history of access to stuff?

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