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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:52 am 
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I, like many Pacfans immediatly thought that this was a result of corruption. of course we cannot disprove this nor prove it. but on second thought i can understand why now the judges may have favored bradley. he made pac miss and pacman threw less punches as usual. also he never gave manny the opening to finish him off.

if you recall theres only one real time he was cornered against the ropes and Manny could not finish him off.also Compubox confirm its Bradley who was more active 2/3 of the round while Manny rallied and finished the round strong with more power punches. this FOOLED the judges IMHO not due to corruption.

also my suggestion to fix up boxing in the future to prevent bad decisions: open scoring. why not announce the score so that Roach and Manny will not think they are winning. Therefore Manny will try harder and not let Bradley look more active. Therefore he can leave no doubt who won every round.

Fellow Paclanders, to err is human. I think we should move on. Even Arum is not to blame for this. just my 2 cents

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:56 am 
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yep..gawing parang basketball...may scoreboard sa taas ng ring! :)

Para may 12th round rally at sisigaw ang mga tao ng "ginebra ginebra!" este "Manny manny money" :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:58 am 
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Sometimes we refuse to see what is obvious.

The Top Rank commentator appeared to be shaping viewers' minds of a Bradley win. Saying that the first three rounds could have all been won by Bradley. No way.

In house fights for Arum make him more money.

No other good Top Rank opponent for Manny.

It was not even a close fight.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:59 am 
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jogar84 wrote:
I, like many Pacfans immediatly thought that this was a result of corruption. of course we cannot disprove this nor prove it. but on second thought i can understand why now the judges may have favored bradley. he made pac miss and pacman threw less punches as usual. also he never gave manny the opening to finish him off.

if you recall theres only one real time he was cornered against the ropes and Manny could not finish him off.also Compubox confirm its Bradley who was more active 2/3 of the round while Manny rallied and finished the round strong with more power punches. this FOOLED the judges IMHO not due to corruption.

also my suggestion to fix up boxing in the future to prevent bad decisions: open scoring. why not announce the score so that Roach and Manny will not think they are winning. Therefore Manny will try harder and not let Bradley look more active. Therefore he can leave no doubt who won every round.

Fellow Paclanders, to err is human. I think we should move on. Even Arum is not to blame for this. just my 2 cents



Yup, it's human to err. Ooops, China has just invaded Palawan. There is no injustice, it's human error. We should just move on...


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:03 am 
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Sargo wrote:
Sometimes we refuse to see what is obvious.

The Top Rank commentator appeared to be shaping viewers' minds of a Bradley win. Saying that the first three rounds could have all been won by Bradley. No way.

In house fights for Arum make him more money.

No other good Top Rank opponent for Manny.

It was not even a close fight.


sir i gave the 1st round to bradley because manny didnt do much. i know he landed a left but bradley controll that round. overall i have him 3 rounds, maybe 4. theres no doubt manny won easily.

however because Roach and Manny do not know the score, they will think they are winning. why not announce the scores by michael buffer. If Manny loses a round he will press harder and possibly TKO Bradley

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:05 am 
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Fists_of_Fury wrote:
jogar84 wrote:
I, like many Pacfans immediatly thought that this was a result of corruption. of course we cannot disprove this nor prove it. but on second thought i can understand why now the judges may have favored bradley. he made pac miss and pacman threw less punches as usual. also he never gave manny the opening to finish him off.

if you recall theres only one real time he was cornered against the ropes and Manny could not finish him off.also Compubox confirm its Bradley who was more active 2/3 of the round while Manny rallied and finished the round strong with more power punches. this FOOLED the judges IMHO not due to corruption.

also my suggestion to fix up boxing in the future to prevent bad decisions: open scoring. why not announce the score so that Roach and Manny will not think they are winning. Therefore Manny will try harder and not let Bradley look more active. Therefore he can leave no doubt who won every round.

Fellow Paclanders, to err is human. I think we should move on. Even Arum is not to blame for this. just my 2 cents



Yup, it's human to err. Ooops, China has just invaded Palawan. There is no injustice, it's human error. We should just move on...


Let us not compare an international incident to a sport. Why continue to become upset over this? Even Manny doesnt care anymore. All Manny lose was his belt.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:06 am 
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Human error is a perfect excuse for corruption

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:06 am 
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after showing the score..Manny, Chavit, and the politicians who went to Vegas should show their bank acct to the public lol

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:08 am 
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twinkie79 wrote:
Human error is a perfect excuse for corruption


You say corruption. But you cannot be corrupt for no reason. Tell me what is the reason for judges to fix a fight against Pac? Theres no proof sorry, i dont buy it

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:13 am 
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jogar84 wrote:
twinkie79 wrote:
Human error is a perfect excuse for corruption


You say corruption. But you cannot be corrupt for no reason. Tell me what is the reason for judges to fix a fight against Pac? Theres no proof sorry, i dont buy it



Do you believe most politicians in the Philippines are not corrupt?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:17 am 
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Sargo wrote:
jogar84 wrote:
twinkie79 wrote:
Human error is a perfect excuse for corruption


You say corruption. But you cannot be corrupt for no reason. Tell me what is the reason for judges to fix a fight against Pac? Theres no proof sorry, i dont buy it



Do you believe most politicians in the Philippines are not corrupt?


yes of course they are because they are becoming rich of it.

what does it have to do with Las Vegas judges? Duane Ford, CJ Ross, etc. How will they profit from fixing this fight? Also Arum said he cannot do a rematch because the "fight wont sell". This fight with Bradley was not a sellout fight and many tickets were given for free.

It's bad business for Manny to lose. Therefore the only conclusion i can make is the judges simply made an honest mistake.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:43 am 
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jogar84 wrote:

yes of course they are because they are becoming rich of it.

what does it have to do with Las Vegas judges? Duane Ford, CJ Ross, etc. How will they profit from fixing this fight? Also Arum said he cannot do a rematch because the "fight wont sell". This fight with Bradley was not a sellout fight and many tickets were given for free.

It's bad business for Manny to lose. Therefore the only conclusion i can make is the judges simply made an honest mistake.


Ah ok. Just checking your state of mind.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:56 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuguFMN-8l8

Max Kellerman dont think the judges are corrupt either. Listen to this !!! round by round take on the fight and Max explain why and how the judges may be fooled.
it makes perfect sense. theres no reason to fix this fight, it was simply bad judgement.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:28 am 
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only blind people can't see the real score...


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:35 am 
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i beg to refuse. I stand behind the 99% of all the experts who said that Manny won easily. I gave Bradley 2 rounds and that's being generous. With that being said, the judges -all three of them- are just beyond human error and deliquency. They are corrupt. Period.


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