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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:04 pm 
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[quote="CPK-MB"]Marquez's body looks like he is on PEDS....he should be tested in his urine before he steps into the ring on DEC. 8![/quote]

additional cheating for Marquez...

5. Using PEDS against Pacquiao...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:07 pm 
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[quote="CPK-MB"][quote="Dodong Alicaba"]I expect Marquez to be a cry baby again after the fight on Dec. 8...!!![/quote]

I agree, that's why Pacquiao needs to Knock Marquez out... to shut him up once and for all![/quote]

If Marquez will back pedal all night and be contented to finish the 12 rounds so he could do his cry baby again... it
would be difficult to KO this crying baby Marquez!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:59 pm 
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Dodong Alicaba wrote:
CPK-MB wrote:
If Pacquiao will not beat Marquez by KO...I'm very sure Marquez will not accept defeat for the fourth time!


Marquez cannot believe himself that even with all his dirty tactics, he still cannot beat Pacquiao!


right there... even tried his pee.. this time trying PED :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:35 pm 
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I agree with TS all the way. Marquez is full of dirty tricks and never been a gentleman in and out of the ring. He is full of himself. Manny made the right decision to knock this guy out and shut his mouth. Go, go go Manny. This guy doesn't deserve the respect you showed him in the past.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:52 pm 
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Dodong Alicaba wrote:
Marquez's fans are saying that whenever a southpaw and an orthodox fights, foot-stepping happens a lot!
They are trying to justify why Juan Manuel Marquez stepped on Manny Pacquiao's foot 17 times
when they fought for the third time last Nov. 12. They also added that even Pacquiao stepped on
Marquez's foot once in the first round!

But then again, how come that foot stepping never happened in Pacquiao vs Marquez I and II...??
And on the third fight, how come Manny Pacquiao stepped on Marquez's foot only once and Marquez did it 17 times?!
Clearly, It shows that Juan Manuel Marquez and Nacho Nacho Baristain have planned, and pre-meditated on that kind of
cheating during the course of Marquez's training!

Yes, we all know that Manny Pacquiao is a southpaw and we always see him fight orthodox boxers most of the time. But nobody among his previous opponents have stepped on his foot 17 times. Even if we combined all the foot stepping that happened in Pacquiao's entire career, still it won't reach 17 times! Therefore, how can these Marquez's fans explain this foot stepping of 17 times that happened only in one fight if it's not a blatant cheating?! Juann Manuel Marquez knows that Pacquiao's foot speed is one of his best assets and he wants to nullify that by doing his dirty tactics of 17 times of blatant cheating!

I have seen that kind of cheating before. Foot stepping aims to immobilize the opponent to catch him off guard.
Marquez knows that one of Pacquiao's best assets is the great foot speed. That's why he want's to nullify Pacquiao's
advantage by cheating through foot stepping! Marquez is not afraid to do all the kinds of dirty tactics just to secure a win over Manny Pacquiao. But I always believe that a cheater like Juan Manuel Marquez will never win against Manny Pacquiao!

Through the entire course of their trilogy, the Nevada state athletic commission has assigned a totally different sets of judges every time they fight. And Juan Manuel Marquez has accused the judges of robbery each time! He does not respect the judges decision and he does not respect his opponent. Juan Manuel Marquez has never gave credit to Manny Pacquaio throughout the entire course of this trilogy!

Ideally, Manny Pacquiao has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez three times already. Judge Burt Clemens admitted after the fight of scoring 10/7 instead of 10/6 in favor of Manny Pacquaio he knocked Marquez down three times in the first round of their first fight! So, ideally, the record book should show Pacquiao 3 wins 0 loss against Marquez!

Officially, Manny Pacquioa has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez two times already against one draw in their trilogy. Whichever you think of it, ideally or officialy, Pacquiao has clearly emerged victorious in the Pacquiao vs Marquez trilogy. Therefore, fourth fight is really unnecessary!

But Juan Manuel Marquez has never accepted his defeat. He never gave credit to Manny Pacquiao for the hard work that Pacquiao has put into in this trilogy. Marquez has been so arrogant that he even went to the Philippines telling the Filipino people that Pacquiao has robbed him of the victory twice...and now thrice! Marquez is very disrespectful and has a very unsportsmanlike conduct!


The arrogance of Juan Manuel Marquez is so obvious in his recent interviews. He has been so vocal about his demand if ever there will be quadrilogy, which is very unnecessary. Marquez wants Pacquiao to accept that he lost the fight, vacate the WBO welterweight world championship belt and declare the fight a no contest. Marquez also demands to be paid no less than 10 million dollars, and that the fight must be held in Mexico! These are so outrageous demands!

Last Nov. 12 fight, Jaun Manuel Marquez deliberately stepped on Manny Pacquiao's foot 17 times, he punched Pacquiao at the kidney area and at the hips area many times, he threw low blows,head butts, and rabbit punches. Marquez is a blatant cheater, he is a sore loser, a cry baby, and a very arrogant and disrespectful!

When Manny Pacquioa lost to Eric Morales, the Filipino people never criticized Morales but instead gave credit to him for being a better boxer than Pacquiao. I personally got sad, but I never got mad at El terrible. Because I know Morales has beaten Pacquiao fair and square. Morales is a gentleman of the sport, respectful, and is a very good sportsman! I would rather see Eric Morales beat Pacquiao 10 times than the cheater Marquez beat Pacquiao once!


I have to admit that the third fight was close,and so were the previous two fights. But the judges have given the victory to Manny Pacquiao for being the aggressor, busier fighter, and plus the fact that he is the champion. Jaun Manuel Marquez back peddaled all night, and never really did anything to threaten the champion to unseat his crown. Whether people agree with the decision or not, we just have to respect the judges decision.

Manny Pacquiao does not deserve the disrespect shown by the Mexican people after the fight. After all, he is not the one who said that he won the fight, it was the judges! All that Manny Pacquiao did was to come in the ring and fight, and to perform for the people. Pacquiao does not deserve the ridicule from the people whom Manny Pacquiao himself wants to give a good show!

The Mexican people has been so disrespectful at Manny Pacquiao. They became so unruly in the MGM grand. They booed Pacquiao during interviews. They threw water bottles, soda cans, coins, crumpled papers, etc. They forgot the fact that Pacquiao is just a fighter, he is not the judge! Now, imagine what would the Mexican people throw at Pacquiao if ever the fight will be held in Mexico and Manny Pacquiao will again emerge victorious in another close fight!


Just a thing to consider. Pacquiao's offense against past opponents came from angles while Manny must have stayed in front of Marquez for the foot stepping to happen.
Whether the foot stepping was accidental or not, Marquez for the most part was able to take away Manny's angles when on the attack.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:16 pm 
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Did marquez steps a lot at manny's foot also during the 2nd and 3rdf?

If not, seems a legit dirty tactics.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:45 am 
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Dodong Alicaba wrote:
Marquez's fans are saying that whenever a southpaw and an orthodox fights, foot-stepping happens a lot!
They are trying to justify why Juan Manuel Marquez stepped on Manny Pacquiao's foot 17 times
when they fought for the third time last Nov. 12. They also added that even Pacquiao stepped on
Marquez's foot once in the first round!

But then again, how come that foot stepping never happened in Pacquiao vs Marquez I and II...??
And on the third fight, how come Manny Pacquiao stepped on Marquez's foot only once and Marquez did it 17 times?!
Clearly, It shows that Juan Manuel Marquez and Nacho Nacho Baristain have planned, and pre-meditated on that kind of
cheating during the course of Marquez's training!

Yes, we all know that Manny Pacquiao is a southpaw and we always see him fight orthodox boxers most of the time. But nobody among his previous opponents have stepped on his foot 17 times. Even if we combined all the foot stepping that happened in Pacquiao's entire career, still it won't reach 17 times! Therefore, how can these Marquez's fans explain this foot stepping of 17 times that happened only in one fight if it's not a blatant cheating?! Juann Manuel Marquez knows that Pacquiao's foot speed is one of his best assets and he wants to nullify that by doing his dirty tactics of 17 times of blatant cheating!

I have seen that kind of cheating before. Foot stepping aims to immobilize the opponent to catch him off guard.
Marquez knows that one of Pacquiao's best assets is the great foot speed. That's why he want's to nullify Pacquiao's
advantage by cheating through foot stepping! Marquez is not afraid to do all the kinds of dirty tactics just to secure a win over Manny Pacquiao. But I always believe that a cheater like Juan Manuel Marquez will never win against Manny Pacquiao!

Through the entire course of their trilogy, the Nevada state athletic commission has assigned a totally different sets of judges every time they fight. And Juan Manuel Marquez has accused the judges of robbery each time! He does not respect the judges decision and he does not respect his opponent. Juan Manuel Marquez has never gave credit to Manny Pacquaio throughout the entire course of this trilogy!

Ideally, Manny Pacquiao has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez three times already. Judge Burt Clemens admitted after the fight of scoring 10/7 instead of 10/6 in favor of Manny Pacquaio he knocked Marquez down three times in the first round of their first fight! So, ideally, the record book should show Pacquiao 3 wins 0 loss against Marquez!

Officially, Manny Pacquioa has beaten Juan Manuel Marquez two times already against one draw in their trilogy. Whichever you think of it, ideally or officialy, Pacquiao has clearly emerged victorious in the Pacquiao vs Marquez trilogy. Therefore, fourth fight is really unnecessary!

But Juan Manuel Marquez has never accepted his defeat. He never gave credit to Manny Pacquiao for the hard work that Pacquiao has put into in this trilogy. Marquez has been so arrogant that he even went to the Philippines telling the Filipino people that Pacquiao has robbed him of the victory twice...and now thrice! Marquez is very disrespectful and has a very unsportsmanlike conduct!


The arrogance of Juan Manuel Marquez is so obvious in his recent interviews. He has been so vocal about his demand if ever there will be quadrilogy, which is very unnecessary. Marquez wants Pacquiao to accept that he lost the fight, vacate the WBO welterweight world championship belt and declare the fight a no contest. Marquez also demands to be paid no less than 10 million dollars, and that the fight must be held in Mexico! These are so outrageous demands!

Last Nov. 12 fight, Jaun Manuel Marquez deliberately stepped on Manny Pacquiao's foot 17 times, he punched Pacquiao at the kidney area and at the hips area many times, he threw low blows,head butts, and rabbit punches. Marquez is a blatant cheater, he is a sore loser, a cry baby, and a very arrogant and disrespectful!

When Manny Pacquioa lost to Eric Morales, the Filipino people never criticized Morales but instead gave credit to him for being a better boxer than Pacquiao. I personally got sad, but I never got mad at El terrible. Because I know Morales has beaten Pacquiao fair and square. Morales is a gentleman of the sport, respectful, and is a very good sportsman! I would rather see Eric Morales beat Pacquiao 10 times than the cheater Marquez beat Pacquiao once!


I have to admit that the third fight was close,and so were the previous two fights. But the judges have given the victory to Manny Pacquiao for being the aggressor, busier fighter, and plus the fact that he is the champion. Jaun Manuel Marquez back peddaled all night, and never really did anything to threaten the champion to unseat his crown. Whether people agree with the decision or not, we just have to respect the judges decision.

Manny Pacquiao does not deserve the disrespect shown by the Mexican people after the fight. After all, he is not the one who said that he won the fight, it was the judges! All that Manny Pacquiao did was to come in the ring and fight, and to perform for the people. Pacquiao does not deserve the ridicule from the people whom Manny Pacquiao himself wants to give a good show!

The Mexican people has been so disrespectful at Manny Pacquiao. They became so unruly in the MGM grand. They booed Pacquiao during interviews. They threw water bottles, soda cans, coins, crumpled papers, etc. They forgot the fact that Pacquiao is just a fighter, he is not the judge! Now, imagine what would the Mexican people throw at Pacquiao if ever the fight will be held in Mexico and Manny Pacquiao will again emerge victorious in another close fight!


The foot stepping was obviously planned and I give credit for Marquez for executing it perfectly. Pac's corner was not prepared that Marquez could mastered the foot stepping. It is illegal if the referee found intentional but the illegality is at the referees discretion. Pac's corner should have complained to the referee when they noticed excessive and intentional foot stepping. But I guess, somehow the foot stepping did not affect Pac's performance during the fight, he still won. For sure, Manny and his corner have solution of what has to be done if the foot stepping occur this time. Speaking of booing and disrespectful of the Mexicans to Pacquiao, is a normal reaction of Marquez fans especially that majority of the audience are Mexicans. Even if Marquez get knock out, they will still do the same.
I think this time, the 33 years old Pacquiao will knock the 39 yrs. old GRANPA Marquez out, regardless of Marquez show off muscles. Remember, this is boxing and not wrestling and size does not matter because they still have to weigh at the same weight. Nothing deference between a pound of iron and a pound of cottons. Only the physical looks but they weighed the same.
Pacquiao for a KO before the 9th round is over.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:40 am 
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BoxingFans101 wrote:
I agree to what the TS have said. Juan Manuel Marquez is a typical mexican and most of them are cheater. He even mentioned in 24/7 that he will do whatever it takes to defeat Manny.



TS talks a lot and in circles... and also uses 2nd handle. tsk tsk :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:59 am 
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It's a good observation TS. But, I wouldn't mind too much about that. The fact remains that Marquez is still a tough nut to crack and that's bothersome come December 8. It's either knock him out or lose for Pacquiao.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:01 am 
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freaking J wrote:
BoxingFans101 wrote:
I agree to what the TS have said. Juan Manuel Marquez is a typical mexican and most of them are cheater. He even mentioned in 24/7 that he will do whatever it takes to defeat Manny.



TS talks a lot and in circles... and also uses 2nd handle. tsk tsk :mrgreen:



Hmmm... is that so?! :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:50 am 
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Dodong Alicaba wrote:
JM Marquez will never accept defeat...coz he is a cheater...


I don't see the relation between acceptance of defeat and cheating. Please enlighten me.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:32 am 
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[quote="champ0206"][quote="Dodong Alicaba"]JM Marquez will never accept defeat...coz he is a cheater...[/quote]

I don't see the relation between acceptance of defeat and cheating. Please enlighten me.[/quote]

A person who cheats always expects to win...that's always the case bro even in the elections...!!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:37 am 
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[quote="conan"][quote="Dodong Alicaba"][quote="CPK-MB"]If Pacquiao will not beat Marquez by KO...I'm very sure Marquez will not accept defeat for the fourth time![/quote]

Marquez cannot believe himself that even with all his dirty tactics, he still cannot beat Pacquiao![/quote]

right there... even tried his pee.. this time trying PED :lol:[/quote]

That's right bro...Marquez is doing everything both legal and illegal just to be able to beat Pacquiao...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:34 am 
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JMM is like a Filipino TRAPO (Traditional Politician).


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Good luck, Manny!...Knock his A$$ out! and then shove it to his loud mouth...


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