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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Lawyer naman si Konz eh! lol


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:29 pm 
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Roach was the instigator and Koncz and Buboy are the hitman.

"Vaughan added that Under NRS 467.158, “penalties in lieu of or in addition to other disciplinary action” that “does not relate to a contest or exhibition of unarmed combat as provided in subsection 2, the Commission may, in lieu of revoking a license, prescribe a penalty not to exceed $250,000 or 100 percent of the share of the purse to which the holder of the license is entitled for the contest or exhibition, whichever amount is greater, and payment of costs of the proceeding, including investigative and attorney’s fees.”




What license and what share of the purse? Does Koncz need a license to be Pacquiao's spokesperson and Buboy to be Pacquiao's childhood friend and sidekick? Do Koncz and Buboy have an official share of the purse? :shock:

They're legalese details to be sorted out eventually. It's a standard legal maneuver to cite every code possible against a defendant or an opposing party. In other words, they're building their case. The counsel for the victim doesn't really care about what the NSAC does as long as they do it. The plaintiff would never get a piece of the penalty money; that belongs to the NSAC. This posturing is just to get the NSAC to officially be on the same page as they (plaintiff) are to support their eventual civil complaint for damages just as they would be filing a criminal complaint with the authorities to further support their course of action (civil lawsuit). All these are just formalities. The transgression happened while the world was watching. There's no way the perps could wiggle out of this quagmire they put themselves in. It's just a matter of time and formalities.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:14 pm 
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Come on it is just a push, everybody is in a hurry to get to the ring to rescue. He the camera guy had no business on the top of the ring and he is asking for $250,000.00? Was he injured or bruised I think not. It's a simple defense for Boboy. Manny needs immediate attention it is his job as an assistant coach to go on top of the ring for assistance. Don't be afraid Boboy defend yourself don't just accept it's your fault. You have the right to push him when his not doing anything to assist Manny. 8)



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That is the start of negotiations. But I think it will be chewed down to 20k dollars and everybody goes home for Xmas!


There was no physical injury. The lawsuit is purely to make money out of it. The apology should have been sufficient enough. The Nevada Commission should use their common sense and fair decision or otherwise, Pacquiao will not fight in Las Vegas anymore. The casinos and hotels will be the one losing the business. What I heard from my brother in Vegas, the working hours of his friends working in the casinos had been shortened because there are no customers. Las Vegas need more people and tourists to generate millions of dollars in their industry and Pacquiao's fight is one the main attractions that people would like to see.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:21 pm 
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For the people who insist that the unfortunate "credentialed" photo journalist has no right to be on that ring at that particular moment, just take a gander at the following photo once again. As you can see, there's another photo journalist on the apron (behind Wakee), in the background and another photo journalist and an HBO video camera operator inside the ring. I have no doubt that there more photo journalist/cameramen outside of the frame. Like I stated before, even if he didn't have the right to be on there, it is not legal for anybody to physically harm him just because one is pissed and feels like doing it. Heck, I would love to beat up a lot of people who I'm pissed off at too but obviously I can't do it without suffering the consequences.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:36 pm 
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flipoxer wrote:
Lawyer naman si Konz eh! lol



lawyer na polpol naman. :lol: :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:47 pm 
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Come on it is just a push, everybody is in a hurry to get to the ring to rescue. He the camera guy had no business on the top of the ring and he is asking for $250,000.00? Was he injured or bruised I think not. It's a simple defense for Boboy. Manny needs immediate attention it is his job as an assistant coach to go on top of the ring for assistance. Don't be afraid Boboy defend yourself don't just accept it's your fault. You have the right to push him when his not doing anything to assist Manny. 8)



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That is the start of negotiations. But I think it will be chewed down to 20k dollars and everybody goes home for Xmas!


There was no physical injury. The lawsuit is purely to make money out of it. The apology should have been sufficient enough. The Nevada Commission should use their common sense and fair decision or otherwise, Pacquiao will not fight in Las Vegas anymore. The casinos and hotels will be the one losing the business. What I heard from my brother in Vegas, the working hours of his friends working in the casinos had been shortened because there are no customers. Las Vegas need more people and tourists to generate millions of dollars in their industry and Pacquiao's fight is one the main attractions that people would like to see.



Hahaha...No, an apology isn't suffiicient for assault and battery. That's not how it works in America. Buboy paying a $250,000 fine is the least of his worries if he ever steps foot on American soil again. It's more likely that criminal charges will be filed, and Buboy, along with Koncz, will be arrested when he comes back to America. Floyd Mayweather, with all of his money, had to to 3 months in jail for slapping his ex-gf around. There were witnesses and photographic evidence of Buboy assaulting the photographer. These fools simply forgot they weren't in Pinas anymore.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:23 pm 
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TRUE PINOY wrote:
handsomepinoy1 wrote:
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Come on it is just a push, everybody is in a hurry to get to the ring to rescue. He the camera guy had no business on the top of the ring and he is asking for $250,000.00? Was he injured or bruised I think not. It's a simple defense for Boboy. Manny needs immediate attention it is his job as an assistant coach to go on top of the ring for assistance. Don't be afraid Boboy defend yourself don't just accept it's your fault. You have the right to push him when his not doing anything to assist Manny. 8)



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That is the start of negotiations. But I think it will be chewed down to 20k dollars and everybody goes home for Xmas!


There was no physical injury. The lawsuit is purely to make money out of it. The apology should have been sufficient enough. The Nevada Commission should use their common sense and fair decision or otherwise, Pacquiao will not fight in Las Vegas anymore. The casinos and hotels will be the one losing the business. What I heard from my brother in Vegas, the working hours of his friends working in the casinos had been shortened because there are no customers. Las Vegas need more people and tourists to generate millions of dollars in their industry and Pacquiao's fight is one the main attractions that people would like to see.

Injury is more than physical in such an incident. Emotional, psychological, neurological and other factors that could linger for a lifetime such as being humiliated in front of a world audience are going to be figured in and evaluated. We have a jury system here in the U.S. If they allow this to go to trial, it would be up to the jury to determine the extent of damages and the corresponding monetary award including punitive (i.e. punishment) damages in addition to the other damages, physical and whatnot. It's usually the punitive damages that is significant amount wise. Considering the nature of the assault (unprovoked and very brazen for the world to see), I'm not at all optimistic about the jury being sympathetic to the defendants. Obviously, it's not even a question of guilt. The world saw it for crying out loud. It's a question of how much punishment the defendants or the perps should get.

Apology is overrated and often overused. If we legalize apologies as a means or excuse to justify our actions, this world would be in a state of chaos because we would be slitting each other's throats on a daily basis and whoever comes out alive would then declare, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do it...I did it in the heat of the moment".

Of course, it's purely money. It is an integral part of the law in order to deter people from violating the law in the first place.

It's kinda arrogant to claim that Pac would break Vegas. I got news for you; Vegas has been around for a long time way before Pac and it would still be around for a long time when Pac is gone. Yeah, love you long time, Joe! ;-)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Let's face it. Baboy and Kuntz went "ghetto" and singled out and beat up the credentialed photo journalist in the presence of a worldwide audience with cameras galore. There's just no way for them to wiggle out of this predicament that they brought on themselves against their better judgment. Did I mention that their action was unprovoked?


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That is the start of negotiations. But I think it will be chewed down to 20k dollars and everybody goes home for Xmas![/quote]

There was no physical injury. The lawsuit is purely to make money out of it. The apology should have been sufficient enough. The Nevada Commission should use their common sense and fair decision or otherwise, Pacquiao will not fight in Las Vegas anymore. The casinos and hotels will be the one losing the business. What I heard from my brother in Vegas, the working hours of his friends working in the casinos had been shortened because there are no customers. Las Vegas need more people and tourists to generate millions of dollars in their industry and Pacquiao's fight is one the main attractions that people would like to see.[/quote]


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Hahaha...No, an apology isn't suffiicient for assault and battery. That's not how it works in America. Buboy paying a $250,000 fine is the least of his worries if he ever steps foot on American soil again. It's more likely that criminal charges will be filed, and Buboy, along with Koncz, will be arrested when he comes back to America. Floyd Mayweather, with all of his money, had to to 3 months in jail for slapping his ex-gf around. There were witnesses and photographic evidence of Buboy assaulting the photographer. These fools simply forgot they weren't in Pinas anymore.
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You so OA, assault and battery, criminal charge? You must be dreaming from another world. Even if I myself were at the situation I will push him myself to clear the way for Manny. It is Boboy job to check his fighter and the camera guy is in the way. Control your wild thoughts buddy. 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:29 pm 
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Let's face it. Baboy and Kuntz went "ghetto" and singled out and beat up the credentialed photo journalist in the presence of a worldwide audience with cameras galore. There's just no way for them to wiggle out of this predicament that they brought on themselves against their better judgment. Did I mention that their action was unprovoked?


Come on now just calm down alright.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:34 pm 
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Get Uncle Bob to fix this. Bar their photographers from entering any TR event. They will back off.

The guy initially just wanted a public apology. Now he sees dollar signs and wants to go after the whole Team Pacquiao.

Bullsyet!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:45 pm 
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boxer1 wrote:
Roach was the instigator and Koncz and Buboy are the hitman.

"Vaughan added that Under NRS 467.158, “penalties in lieu of or in addition to other disciplinary action” that “does not relate to a contest or exhibition of unarmed combat as provided in subsection 2, the Commission may, in lieu of revoking a license, prescribe a penalty not to exceed $250,000 or 100 percent of the share of the purse to which the holder of the license is entitled for the contest or exhibition, whichever amount is greater, and payment of costs of the proceeding, including investigative and attorney’s fees.”



No one will bite for it.
Kahit ang NSAC hindi kakagat dyan sa $250,000.00 na penalty.
May mas maraming incident na nangyari compare dyan.
Public apology is enough or a pair of signed gloves from Pacquiao.
Mamili na lang sya, hindi na sya ulit makapagpicture for Pacquiao's or TR incoming fights or accept the public apology.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:50 pm 
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Let's face it. Baboy and Kuntz went "ghetto" and singled out and beat up the credentialed photo journalist in the presence of a worldwide audience with cameras galore. There's just no way for them to wiggle out of this predicament that they brought on themselves against their better judgment. Did I mention that their action was unprovoked?


Come on now just calm down alright.

I kinda agree with Kulukuy here...those photographers maybe most are licensed and been given access to this kind of event.....things got heated due to the result of the fight but you shouldn't take it out in them.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:03 am 
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If I were Manny, I will tell buboy to serve his sentence in Jail in the US, anyway it is not that bad compared to the prison in PI then I will give the $100k to his family. 8)

Seriously, the reporter was just making an issue out of it to earn some cash. Kung sinabi pa nya, magpapabayad sya dahil sa hiya nung na tulak sya palabas ng ring kakampi pa ako.

He was not even harmed on that incident.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:23 am 
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You know what...those Paparazzi are use to that kind of treatment just to get a photo. It happened too many times they get beaten up by celebs they were trying to shoot pictures in public. It is part of the risk in their job and they willing to take for a living. I don't think the guy is making big deal out of it he doesn't have the strong bases, I think some guys from the inside wanted to milked Pacman out of it. 8)


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