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Pac was not a major ppv draw when he fought Oscar.
Pac-Diaz did not sell 400k buys.
It was Pac's win over Oscar that doubled his popularity.
JMM is da man right now to the Mexicans.
He will command huge dollars if he fights Rios or Khan or Garcia .
He does not need Pac.
Pac needs him for redemption.
Who has more leverage?

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Hell no......we're not even sure if JMM was even clean during his training which raises alot of questions......so the answer is a "No way Jose" from me.

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If Marquez was paid a guaranteed of $6M + PPV in their last fight then he should get double on their next fight which is $12M + PPV since he KTFO Pac, a close purse split to 50-50. In the end it's Arum who'd dictate their guaranteed purse. Arum could always pull a plan B should Marquez plays hardball however, Pac and Arum would make more though if he'd fight Guerrero or Rios on a Mexican holiday, my opinion of course.

in order to make this 5th fight.. i think jmm should atleast get a little higher purse... if not you know .....

jmm cant sell tickets, unless he's fighting manny or floyd.

I think the fight should be broadcast for free on some local channel.....no more PPV crap.

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Yes, JMM deserves it and Angel deserves 50% of whatever JMM is getting including PPV shares

Establishing the biggest PPV numbers down the lower weights with Morales and Marquez, sure that doesn't make Pacquiao a bankable PPV attraction. In 7 years, Oscar didn't make 147 lbs. but he did go down for Manny. Hell, he wouldn't have done it with anyone else if the other guy was not well worth it. It was a clash of two major PPV fighters, outside of Mayweather, who happened to be both ultra popular and charismatic. Hence, "The Dream Match" title. Can u imagine another popular fighter who would fit "The Dream Match" title with Dela Hoya at that time? Pacquiao was making lots of money for Arum and he was a consistent PPV hit. Pacquiao made those numbers possible with crappy undercards. His rematch with Marquez was the highest grossing PPV match below the Light Welterweight division.

JMM is definitely the man of the hour but it's hard to translate that to PPV numbers. Before the fourth fight with manny, Marquez bored a few crowd with a certain fighter whose name u couldn't spell. Suddenly, he is an overnight sensation? In Mexico maybe but i see his marketing power to mainstream fans no different to Ron Tarver after upsetting Roy Jones. Fact is, marquez is not an established PPV attraction. Thus, he couldn't command more than his true worth. And his true worth will only be validated if he fights Manny. So u think he has the leverage? Manny is still under contract with Top Rank til 2014. He's gonna fight anyway with or without Marquez. Arum and Pacquiao had already given Marquez the cold shoulders in the past when he priced himself too high in their proposed immediate rematch. Who struck gold after that? Manny made a killing with Morales while Marquez had to travel to Indonesia. Manny could still earn 15 to 20 million dollars fighting Rios or Bradley. How much do u think Marquez is gonna get fighting Guerrero? Who's the promoter brave and stupid enough to put that crap on PPV and guarantee Marquez 10 million? Remember, the promoter is on manny's side. They still call the shots, not Marquez. if Marquez insists he deserves the higher pay, then, Arum will just tell him to fight another man on PPV and see if he measures up to Manny's PPV clout.

Naturally, we would say that the only road to redemption is Marquez. But Duran showed us, after getting knocked out cold by Hearns, that the road to the top could also be someone else. In the end, Duran is still regarded with a better legacy than Hearns.

If JMM doesn't want the 5th fight anymore then JMM already decided to call the retirement he cannot draw people to watch him, the media doesn't even bother to mention his name to be in the fighter of the year, knockout of the year, and fight of the year. His name is tainted because of association with his guardian angel.

Consider it retirement money deserved by Marquez at 55/45 Marquez. I just don't want him to Coward OUT! Or else he will say "I love my wife more" if the money is not greater than Pacquiao's pay.

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better to shout your mouth you are showing everybody how ignorant you are about boxing.

finished business is in Pac's Tee..that said it all

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Manny still has the commanding power to draw. His next bout would sell even without JMM. People will be interested on how Manny will rise as what he has stated during an interview.

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There was no rematch vs Rustico T. so why would Marquez KO win be any different? The 4th fight altho it was a good fight will just go down to his record as another fight and someone prepared better and stronger with the help of an admitted drugs peddler. PacMan should just let it go and go for his old belt or IBF belt a bit later. Marquez is rich now courtesy of Packy. Let the other boxers take home some money fighting him.

I am not sure why PacMan gave Marquez his 3rd fight and 4th fight. Unfinished business, they should have stopped there. Marquez is always disrespectful to him. He gave marquez a chance to gloat and stain his record unneccesarily. So it was a bad idea to get the pee drinker rich for all the things he said in past. PacMan advisers are all morons.