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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:30 pm 
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Complacency ......Manny keeps forgetting that JMM is a strong counter-puncher.....and that he let his guard down.

yes, he was KO on the 3rd rd. therfore, he should be warned.
But we can't blame manny, He lost just bec. he want to make the people or fans happy. :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Foot stomping might not affects for movements but it would distracts him not to be on focused to the coming powerful shot. This tactic is commonly uses to WWF to assure winning the difficult game.[/quote]

Look, how could Marquez step on Manny's foot if in the first place Manny's right foot was outside Marquez's left. And how in the world will foot stomping cause you to raise your head and not tuck your chin while going on the attack? [/quote]

To raise his head is no way but he could avoid it down ward. Just look at his practice in the mits with Roach and you will see how easy Manny could avoid that punched if he would not distracted.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:21 pm 
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The God of Marquez is more powerful than Manny's god.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:00 pm 
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Manny lost dahil ni Mitt Romney... sabi nga ng announcer ng ABS-CBN... masamang pangitain... hihi... pero nagkatotoo nga..

Seriously, he didn't expect that kind of punch that strongly landed in his face.

So, bad luck talaga.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Simple mistake then "nasingitan".

Remember that Pac is winning and on the way to finish off Marquez who was breathing in his mouth because of busted and bloody nose.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Sayang talaga... :( :(

Trans: Just in the nick of time... :banghead:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:09 pm 
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Gross errrrrr.....thats all it is :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:11 pm 
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Premise 1: "when marquez lost he kept whinning now di rin tayo papatalo lets list reasons why manny lost kahit sa whinning dapat di rin patalo."

Premise 2: There have been many posts/threads belittling Marquez's whining.

Conclusion: We should also belittle ourselves to exact a win in any manner?!

(Okay, upo muna sa tabi habang kinakain ang Happy Meal.) :mrgreen:



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when marquez lost he kept whinning now di rin tayo papatalo lets list reasons why manny lost kahit sa whinning dapat di rin patalo

peds
lucky punch
na patid
did not wear rosary
became christian
wore his socks wrong way?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:14 pm 
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insufficient or ineffective strength and conditioning exercises. his s.a.c coach alex ariza was complaining weeks before the fight that manny totally abandoned his methods and techniques leading to their 4th encounter with marquez who in perfect reversal, hired a good strenght and conditioning coach in heredia. the result? if only manny completed the rigorous regimen incorporated by ariza, the result in my opinion would have been similar to diaz, delahoya, hatton, and cotto. when bradley defeated manny, he promised that he will totally undertake ariza's s.a.c method which he abandon during preparation on his fight with clottey, mosley, bradley which resulted with leg cramps, lackluster and boring performances. this has nothing to do with his change in spiritual beliefs. the Lord will help us if we also have efforts to help ourselves. i'm a big pacman admirer and i hope manny learned some good and valuable lesson from this and also gained more wisdom and knowledge being a true christian, in Christ Jesus name.



amen...


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:50 pm 
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Indomitable_Soldier wrote:
Foot stomping might not affects for movements but it would distracts him not to be on focused to the coming powerful shot. This tactic is commonly uses to WWF to assure winning the difficult game.


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Look, how could Marquez step on Manny's foot if in the first place Manny's right foot was outside Marquez's left. And how in the world will foot stomping cause you to raise your head and not tuck your chin while going on the attack?

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To raise his head is no way but he could avoid it down ward. Just look at his practice in the mits with Roach and you will see how easy Manny could avoid that punched if he would not distracted.



Yeah, look at his practice with the mitts. he was rolling to the right and turning Roach around which means that his right foot should already be outside his adversary's lead left foot. In that last sequence, Manny double pumped with his right and drove right into Marquez, his head held high. Had Manny gone to his right, with his head held low, he could have avoided your so called foot stomping and not have been nailed with the right hand.
Distracted?? He should not have come in with his chin tucking out in the first place. That was a very short punch compared to the one which knocked him down in the third round. At that very short distance and his chin held up and centered on Marquez's right hand, there was no way Manny could slip the punch even if he wasn't "distracted". If there was any distraction, it was Manny's own overeagerness to throw the left. At the very least he could have held the left hand to block the punch but he was preparing to throw the left. Don't tell me again that the third round knockdown was a product of foot stomping on the part of Marquez. That punch came a mile away and yet Manny wasn't able to block or slip it.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:48 am 
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here are some other reasons why manny lost....


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:53 am 
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superlike wrote:
JCOOL2329 wrote:
Complacency ......Manny keeps forgetting that JMM is a strong counter-puncher.....and that he let his guard down.

yes, he was KO on the 3rd rd. therfore, he should be warned.
But we can't blame manny, He lost just bec. he want to make the people or fans happy. :biglaugh:

You only get KO'd once.
KO is final.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:03 am 
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religion is not included in the reason... 8)

manny lost because....

jmm is on peds
no focus
lack of training
to many distraction

and the number one reason... " natalisod " . 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:38 am 
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he got punched in the face..then lights out...
it can happen to anybody....


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:45 am 
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Emmanuel53 wrote:
Indomitable_Soldier wrote:
Over confident that's all. Manny thrown his right to unleash the powerful left. But this stance was very familiar to Marquez. It is easy for Manny to avoid but he was distructed by foot stomping. this shot of Marquez is the likes of Danny Garcia counter hook done to Khan. They don't care if the jab would land on their face just to make a short but powerful hook unleashed unnoticed. Usually if the first shot landed the mind will focus on observing if the opponent is affected or not so they wouldn't see another shot coming. I saw this style used by Donaire againts Darchinyan.



Nope, if Manny tucked his chin, went low instead of holding that head high, and rolled to the right , then your so called foot stomping should have never occurred. He ran right smack into that right because his right foot was where it should not have been in the first place.


+ 1,let's not use the foot stomping as excuse,had Pac put his foot outside,that could've been avoided,he attack in straight line from far out with his chin up and his guards down,that sums it all,he got careless and too over-excited...

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