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He will never be great. Coz aside from the PEDS suspicions, he'll be remembered as someone who knocked out his long time nemesis who is already afflicted with Parkinson's disease.

Or maybe her wife might also consider that JMM have that kind of disease...

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Yeah. Parkinson's disease is very infectious.

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let him fight margarito.

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funny, bago mana k.o. ni jmm si manny walang issue about parkinson, nung ma k.o. issue na at questionable na pagka panalo? classic pactard ng tanga ampotek.

ped my ***, pero kung nanalo si manny wlang ped issue? tanga ng pagkatao o.

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JMM has only won a few fights against ELITE...I said ELITE fighters.

He lost to Terry Norris, Lost to Chris John, loss to Mayweather, Pacquiao Twice.

The only ELITE fighters he has beaten was an OLD and FADED Marco Antonio Barerra and Pacquiao on Dec 8.

Juan Diaz and Kastidis were okay fighters but neither were ELITE...

Hence JMM probably doesn't even get a Hall of Fame vote.

Like Ken Norton to ALI, the only thing memorable about JMM is being able to compete with Pacquiao.

Terry Norris ? Freddie Norwood, you mean.
2 lineal belts and 4 division titles ? Hall of fame lock imo.
4 fights against Pac ? 3 close D's and one KO ?
He was the man who took Pac to the trenches when Pac was running over everyone.
At 126, he was so good Morales and Hamed wanted no part of him.

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@ JoeyinCali

You're right it was Freddie Norwood.
And I did compare JMM to Norton, cause NORTON only real claim to FAME is beating ALI and according to NORTON,
ALI admitted to him that he (Norton) did beat him that third time. Without ALI, Norton would have been forgotten.
JMM's Fourth title is a little suspect as Manny's Title is with MAB in 2003.

Yes he was good at 126 and his RESUME would have looked better with Hamed and Morales on it during that time.

The fact is, that the quanity of quality opponents on JMM's Resume is not that impressive, except for the PAC fights.

Just like FLOYD, Awesome at 126 and 130 but his Resume above 130 is not impressive.
Not that his talent wasn't great. But his quanity of quality opponents above 130 prevents him from being the GOAT.

UNLIKE ALI, who took on EVERYONE and BEAT EVERYONE at one time during that GOLDEN ERA of Heavyweights...

But then again, that is what is WRONG with BOXING today, Not Everyone has to face EVERYONE, not even in
your own Weight class due to FOUR different BELTS in a SIngle Weight Class.

That's just my two centavos

Not exactly, it was his biggest claim to fame but that's not all he is. He's the man who took Holmes to hell and back before losing his title by a razor close decision. And if Ali was revered because he fought at such an era, Norton fought in the same era as well and had his fair share of wins over top contenders, so it's not all he is.

here's some simple equation...
but can make a big impact

*has JMM beaten a top 135 lb fighter? yes or no?
...who are they?

*has JMM beaten a top 140 lb fighter? yes or no?
...how many?

*has JMM beaten a top 147 lb fighter? yes or no?
...how many?

now, who has the better resume then?

Yes, Casamayor.

No.

Yes, Pacquiao.

Still Pacquiao, but Marquez is an ATG in his own right.

I think you are the only one question it....

HUNA, Norton did not win ONE TITLE fight. He won an eliminator against Bobbick iirc but the man did not win belts. He was handed a We Be Corrupt belt b/c Spinks chose to rematch with Ali than fight him.
JMM has 4 division belts. Something even JCC couldn't do.
JMM did knock out Diaz and Casamayor on his third division. Still a great achievement.

Hamed was a punk. His management wanted fight options on Espinoza and JMM if they wanted a shot at him. Hamed feasted on bloated ex-champs until HBO finally told him to fight a Mexican champ. MAB signed a rematch clause in order to get a shot at him. Hamhead did not exercise his rematch clause b/c he was a punk.
Morales's father claimed they offered Nacho a huge fight deal. But, Nacho said they never saw that and that Arum wanted no part of EM-JMM.

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