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 Post subject: JMM #2 P4P ???
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:19 am 
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the Pac-JMM two fight was so close that it could have gone either way and JMM also stated that even Filipino boxing experts think that he won the fight. but hey it was a close fight JMM was KD once and Pac was school in counter punching 101 and a draw would have been acceptable so if Pac is #1 then JMM should be at #2. :smoke:

1.Pac
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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:29 am 
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yeah right...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:54 am 
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†CHRISTIAN† wrote:
the Pac-JMM two fight was so close that it could have gone either way and JMM also stated that even Filipino boxing experts think that he won the fight. but hey it was a close fight JMM was KD once and Pac was school in counter punching 101 and a draw would have been acceptable so if Pac is #1 then JMM should be at #2. :smoke:

1.Pac
2.JMM
3.Calzaghe
4.Hopkins


If pac was schooled in counter-punching then why was jmm knocked down by a counter left hook. :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:02 am 
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Medgoen Singsurat must be number 1, he koed manny pacquiao. LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:08 am 
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jmm will remain as number 2 because golden boy will move heaven and earth for a pac-jmm rematch.

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†CHRISTIAN† wrote:
the Pac-JMM two fight was so close that it could have gone either way and JMM also stated that even Filipino boxing experts think that he won the fight. but hey it was a close fight JMM was KD once and Pac was school in counter punching 101 and a draw would have been acceptable so if Pac is #1 then JMM should be at #2. :smoke:

1.Pac
2.JMM
3.Calzaghe
4.Hopkins


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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:36 pm 
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in my opinion i think JMM doesnt deserve to be on the top 5 pound for pound list....

guys imaginin nyo what if JMM fought a fighter na counter puncher din.. what will happen kaya? i think its going to be a very boring fight.

my P4P are the following : calzaghe, pacman, cotto, pavlik, and hopkins

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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
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Christian - These P4P rankings are subjective. I think a valid case could be made for Marquez at #2. Then again, I think you could just as easily argue that other guys deserve to be there (Calzaghe, Vasquez, Cotto and Pavlik). I think the latest Ring P4P list is really in flux right now. I'll be interested to see how it looks in November.


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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
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JMM is at number 3 right now. He can start earning a higher position if he works on it.

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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
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†CHRISTIAN† wrote:
the Pac-JMM two fight was so close that it could have gone either way and JMM also stated that even Filipino boxing experts think that he won the fight. but hey it was a close fight JMM was KD once and Pac was school in counter punching 101 and a draw would have been acceptable so if Pac is #1 then JMM should be at #2. :smoke:

1.Pac
2.JMM
3.Calzaghe
4.Hopkins


Get over with it dude, the ranking does not base on one fight alone. Calzaghe is the one next to Manny since, and not because JMM had near win with Manny would make him no.2, it doesn’t go like that.

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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
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vhotsok wrote:
Get over with it dude, the ranking does not base on one fight alone. Calzaghe is the one next to Manny since, and not because JMM had near win with Manny would make him no.2, it doesn’t go like that.


You make it seem like there are strict rules to P4P rankings. There are not. It does not "go" like anything. There are a multitude of P4P ranking out there. The Ring magazine ranking is the most "official", but I would have no problem if some other list ranked Marquez #2.


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jbowyer wrote:
vhotsok wrote:
Get over with it dude, the ranking does not base on one fight alone. Calzaghe is the one next to Manny since, and not because JMM had near win with Manny would make him no.2, it doesn’t go like that.


You make it seem like there are strict rules to P4P rankings. There are not. It does not "go" like anything. There are a multitude of P4P ranking out there. The Ring magazine ranking is the most "official", but I would have no problem if some other list ranked Marquez #2.


I did not mean to say that there are strict rules in P4P rankings, maybe my post seems to be like that, but actually what I was pointing out was that in majority of all P4P lists, Calzaghe tops over Marquez in # 2 position and yeah the TS seemingly believe that since Manny is # 1 now and JMM had a very close fight with Manny, JMM should obviously become # 2. Where as I don’t agree with that idea alone, that's why I said "It doesn’t go like that".

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 Post subject: Re: JMM #2 P4P ???
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what if Pac-JMM II ended in a draw? :smoke:

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†CHRISTIAN† wrote:
what if Pac-JMM II ended in a draw? :smoke:


talking about the rankings, if PAC-JMM 2 ended as a draw..the ranking still the same Manny on top over JMM :mrgreen:

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†CHRISTIAN† wrote:
what if Pac-JMM II ended in a draw? :smoke:


Their first fight ended in a draw and still JMM is struggling to lodge in top ten. JMM tasted the canvass and lossed via SD in the 2nd fight, his ranking should now be lowered in the top 20.

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