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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:10 pm 
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Marquez is very dangerous gamble for manny... its better for manny to fight a loser again...
he can collect again millions of peso and not risk his popularity..


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:40 pm 
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This is a classic IDIOTIC thread again....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:39 pm 
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Why risk being exciting if you fight the so-called boring?
manny still can get money and avoid marquez..


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:16 pm 
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DEVIL_MAY_CARE wrote:
Marquez is very dangerous gamble for manny... its better for manny to fight a loser again...
he can collect again millions of peso and not risk his popularity..



True, maybe marquez be dangerous to pacman, yet false to pacman better fight a loser again, as it better yet said pacman be fighting other elite/more exciting fighters again


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:29 pm 
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lawa_lang.. wrote:
DEVIL_MAY_CARE wrote:
Marquez is very dangerous gamble for manny... its better for manny to fight a loser again...
he can collect again millions of peso and not risk his popularity..



True, maybe marquez be dangerous to pacman, yet false to pacman better fight a loser again, as it better yet said pacman be fighting other elite/more exciting fighters again

pacman loves to gamble, so why worry about the risk when he himself knows what's the best for him. this time, marquez is no longer capable of duplicating the feat he did the first time they fought. marquez is getting older and slower. he can still box and counterpunch well but i don't see him winning against pacman. if he was able to get up 3 times and salvage a draw the last time, this time it will be different.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:46 pm 
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DEVIL_MAY_CARE wrote:
Marquez is very dangerous gamble for manny... its better for manny to fight a loser again...
he can collect again millions of peso and not risk his popularity..


what? manny has fought way better opponents than marquez.

this is a stupid thread!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:50 pm 
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bol-anon nga cebuano wrote:
lawa_lang.. wrote:
DEVIL_MAY_CARE wrote:
Marquez is very dangerous gamble for manny... its better for manny to fight a loser again...
he can collect again millions of peso and not risk his popularity..



True, maybe marquez be dangerous to pacman, yet false to pacman better fight a loser again, as it better yet said pacman be fighting other elite/more exciting fighters again

pacman loves to gamble, so why worry about the risk when he himself knows what's the best for him. this time, marquez is no longer capable of duplicating the feat he did the first time they fought. marquez is getting older and slower. he can still box and counterpunch well but i don't see him winning against pacman. if he was able to get up 3 times and salvage a draw the last time, this time it will be different.


Granting your thoughts bro, I gauge this fight in terms of percentage as pacman winning against marquez, is about 99% (98% by ko/tko and 1% ud), yet cant discount the 1% left going for marquez’s needle in haystock jackpot win by a lucky counter shot or shots


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:53 pm 
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At this point in time, I don't think that JMM has any chance of winning against MP. But the real gamble here is if MP fails to KO JMM who is known to have no KO power. In case of a re-match, I expect JMM to counter-punch his way and employ hit-and run tactics to avoid MP's power and pray that the fight goes to a decision (a scenario that contributes to boring boxing & even MMA fights). If this happens, MP is definitely risking his marketability and his title as the most exciting fighter today.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:59 pm 
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DEVIL_MAY_CARE wrote:
Why risk being exciting if you fight the so-called boring?
manny still can get money and avoid marquez..


Its about time Manny should stop these money fights. He'll always be considered good but not the best since he hasn't written his name in the history books as a Super Featherweight Champion (WBC Int'l not included). Forget about the cash for once and wear gold on your waist. Marquez? :biglaugh: nuff said


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:13 pm 
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:D :D :D if im manny i'll not fight marquez. there's nothing to proved, better asked the judge who made a mistake in scoring. and marquez is not improving since that fight while manny improved a lot


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:22 am 
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If I am Manny, I will fight JMM at 70% - 30% sharing ratio. In his fight with JMM, Manny may not look good as proven in the Pac-Barrera II. No one can look good in boxing if the intention of the opponent is to waltz. For Manny, the object of the fight is the catch the running JMM and for JMM just to evade Manny's attack. If Manny will wait for JMM to come forward they may have exchange of 3 blows per round, hence very boring. In this scenario, even if Manny wins, JMM will be said to be good tactician and Manny's reputation will be hurt for being not explosive and exciting. Subsequently, a rematch can come in and again Manny will be invited to dance.
Having said all above, why will Manny fight JMM at any sharing ratio better than 70-30? If Manny opted to be very aggressive to a point of recklessness, JMM has the tool to make Manny look bad. So again, why will Manny want to fight JMM if it will not be a very sound business. Certainly not to prove that Manny can catch a running and waltzing JMM.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:42 am 
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DEVIL_MAY_CARE wrote:
Marquez is very dangerous gamble for manny... its better for manny to fight a loser again...
he can collect again millions of peso and not risk his popularity..


Who the hell has marquez beat that was so great? barrera? controversial decision while pacman clearly outbox barrera.. Marquez lost that fight to barrera but the judges and the refs were so excited for barrera to pass the torch to marquez already they end up giving marquez the fight and the referee is so damn blind he couldn't even see marquez was knockdown when the whole world saw his 2 freaking gloves on the canvas.

Oh and then marquez fights juarez.. the same guy who barrera beat and even soto beat.. the same soto that got hurt vs bobby pacquaio :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You talking about pacman fighting a loser... juarez lost twice to barrera now who's fighting a loser?????// :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:59 am 
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sorry but its not true can you explain further why? this is a stupid thread explain please....


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:19 am 
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DEVIL_MAY_CARE wrote:
Marquez is very dangerous gamble for manny... its better for manny to fight a loser again...
he can collect again millions of peso and not risk his popularity..



Juanita is dangerous indeed!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:12 am 
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... first and foremost, manny has indicated he will fight anyone in his weightclass as he is a professional fighter.....2nd for the record, jmm was the one avoiding manny.. after their controversial draw with Joe cortez officiating... the rematch could have happened sooner.. they were at 125lbs then ,with marquez holding the WBA, IBF belt...everyone knows that the crowd drawer is manny, with or without the belt, and yet JMM asked for so high a fee it became unviable for the promoter (maybe he did it on purpose)... it is highly unusual because he instead went to Indonesia to fight a then ,unknown, chris John who surprisingly beat him via a unanimous decision for a fee which was way,way lower than what was offered to him for a rematch with pac. in that fight, he had point deductions in rd 10 & 11 for repeated low blows (desperation in a losing fight) the referee was guillermo perez... therefore, he is not a dangerous gamble for manny... if he really wants to fight manny, then, THEN THEY FIGHT AT 135lbs NON-TITLE fight since, there are already champions in that division with manny getting the larger purse ,as he deserves it and jmm gets the lesser purse as he is not the crowd drawer and he does not hold the belt in lightweight, so he cannot complain if ,he gets the lesser purse and make it viable for promoters, with a better common sense then, this fight will happen, AGAIN MAYBE, JMM will avoid him again.. if he loses he keeps his superfeatherweight belts and his mouth shut.. i will not consider him winning(jmm) as manny have improved a lot than, when he was 3 years ago...don't you think so?? just some thoughts bro... :D :D


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