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Don't forget, who gives a $hit about what Vit0r thinks?

like they've said, your just a FAN vitor, not a judge. game over gay! your juanita LOST and will always be a LOOOSER! SO shut your loud pooosy!

hey vitor, the self-proclaimed metlog.

ALA didn;t even bother to give his score. he just said he had marquez two points ahead.

TWO POINTS AHEAD?!

can anybody here give me a scenario making marquez two points ahead, considering the kd on th 3rd, without scoring one round even? that alone proves that ALA, a boxing man at that, didn't bother to tally up the points in the right manner.

either he was gueesing, or he didn't know how to score a bout using the 10 point must system.
even if marquez won 114-113, i'd still take it as a good decision. 115-112 would be too much, with the kd.

114-113 for manny was the way i saw it. an extra round for a 115-112 MP would also be reasonable.

when it gets to 117-111 Packy, now that's robbery.

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...the judges made their decission, we shall respect it...for those who can't get over on the result...why not apply as judge(s) for a third rematch if ever there will be one, whknows you'll get the job...there are lot of judging controversies in the past and they were left behind as it is...the only thing you can do now is to pray that your boy marquez will outperform packy in a third match...remember, accepting defeat is also a virtue...

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Ano gusto mo gawin ni manny? e uwi ang belt?

or donaire just jealous....and ala wants to promote manny

Shut the he#$%%ll up! Yeah, the blind biased comments like "PAC is #1 and can kick gaayweather's butt" is to say the least, MAKING PINOYS fans look like we don't know boxing. But, as a long time fight fan I've followed boxing for years and I still have PAC winning. Just because Pinoy fans get alot of slack doesn't mean we need to appease other boxing fans by downplaying a Manny's victory. Manny did great and in my opinion won this fight by a close margin. Also, Donaire has always annoyed me so I'm not suprised he's "calling it as it is" and "not sugar coating things".

Despite the solid pop shots and counter punching from Marquez Pac was just the stronger fighter, inflicted more damage, and put Marquez in more trouble more often.

I watched this fight twice and I saw it 6 rounds to 6 w/ the KD being the deciding factor. Rounds 1, 5, and 11 I believe could of gone either way so thus leading to some discrepancies.

Marquez took 2,6,8, and 12

While Manny took 3,4, 7,9,10

it happens foo chill out just kuz they agree with you doesn't mean it's correct like bob arum said " you gotta learn to live with a close decision" and a rematch might just end up leading to 4 fuggin fights because if marquez wins it won't be by k.o it will be by decision and a close one at that. By doing so it will just get old. both great are fighters im not talking **** away from marquez hes good but didn't do what he said was "enough" to keep his title by getting knockdown that took away points that marquez need to be considered "enough" for him to keep his title. just stop being so sensitive foo its buggin people.

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I am sick of the notion that Filipino fans don't know anything about boxing. Mexican fans say worse crap and more ignorant comments the only problem is they are horrible in english. Yea there's a lot of Filipinos that don't know much about boxing, but how much do you really need to know? By ration and proportion FILIPINOS KNOW MORE ABOUT BOXING THAN AMERICA!!! THINK ABOUT IT!!! America is a huge country but you can go on the streets and ask a stranger what they know about boxing, 9/10 times you'll get an answer of Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali only, but Filipinos know so much more!!! Even banana-q vendors know Tyson and Ali but they know Espinosa, Penalosa, Pacquiao, Morales plus a lot more too. Those who say Filipinos don't know a thing about boxing our just jealous at how passionate Filipinos are because a few "experts" may know more about the science of boxing but even a regular filipino that don't know how to spell boxing watches and is a fan of boxing.

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Then if you had it 7 rounds for Marquez, did you count the KD? Pacquaio was the aggressor and the one landing cleaner and power shots.

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I honestly scored the bout 114-113 in favor of Manny, there were rounds too close to call, like rounds 5,6 and 12.
I gave rounds 1,3,4,6,9,10 for manny, and for JMM rounds 2,5,7,8,11,12. If were'nt for knockdown in 3rd round it would go again for draw I think.
So Vitor I would like to say it to you that you can't change the decision by keep on whining.
Accept it and move on, Im sure JMM will become champion again, he is tough I agree, just stop your peevishness for God sake.

I watched the fight in slow mo and counted the landed punches. Pacquiao definitely won the fight. It wasn't that difficult to score as the rounds JMM won he clearly won with much more landed shots than Pac but there's still the 10-9 rule. Pac just had more rounds won but with less margin. You also can't say Marquez had the more telling blows as the only time Pac was wobbled was at the end of the 2nd rd. Pac should've been credited a 2nd kd when JMM grabbed onto the ropes. WBC rules if a fighter falls from a hit and keeps himself up by grabbing the ropes it's considered a kd. If anyone has any doubts, watch the whole fight in slow mo and count the blows.

Too bad..... Paquiao wins!

you are as blind as marquez and the rest of the people who thinks juanita won.

marquez just dominated the rounds that he won....not the whole fight.

6 round each 114-113 pacman

We will respect your opinion (not expertise) if you respect ours as well. If you had Marquez winning, its up to you. Its how you saw the fight. Did you watch the fight LIVE? I think you didn't, just like me. We watch the fight on the tube, and there is a lot of difference. Pacquiao landed the HARDER punches, which had more effect on Marquez. Marquez may have been very accurate, but this is not amateur boxing. I scored it 6 rounds to 6, 114-113 for Pacquiao. The only difference was the knockdown.
By the way, we will always respect ALA, and Nonito because they know a lot about boxing, unlike us here trying so hard to sound like experts in the sport.

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