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Asian Games 2010: FIBA to OK late lineup tweaks?
10/09/2010 | Asian Games 2010, National Team Program, Smart Gilas | 11 comments »
source: Joaquin Henson | philstar.com

Smart-Gilas national basketball team coach Rajko Toroman said yesterday from his experience in the Olympics and other FIBA-sanctioned competitions, late lineup charges are allowed to cover for injuries or players who may be out of shape.

As FIBA will supervise the conduct of the Asian Games competition, Toroman said he hopes the Guangzhou organizing committee will accommodate the Philippines’ request to tweak the basketball roster before the start of hostilities in November.

Toroman submitted a 12-man lineup to beat the Asian Games Sept. 30 deadline for the accreditation of athletes. Since the submission, Fil-Ams Chris Lutz and Sol Mercado were issued Philippine passports, clearing the way for their eligibility to play for the country in Guangzhou. If the Senate approves Marcus Douthit’s naturalization on third reading on or before Oct. 16, the 6-10 center from Providence College will also be eligible. Lutz, Mercado and Douthit may be Toroman’s late replacements in the Gilas roster.

“It’s not usual to hold a team to its lineup 2 1/2 months before a competition because of the eventuality of injuries or players who may be out of condition for whatever reason,” said Toroman. “In FIBA-supervised international competitions such as the Olympics, lineup changes are allowed three to five days before the start of the tournament. The changes are discussed during the team managers’ meeting. I see no reason why FIBA won’t allow late changes in the Asian Games unless the overall organizers refuse.”

SBP executive director Noli Eala said if there are additions or replacements, accreditation will be done on a case-to-case basis directly with the Asian Games organizing committee. The process will require individual visa applications. Gilas team manager Frankie Lim said Moying Martelino, an official of the Philippine delegation to Guangzhou, is familiar with the process of filing for late accreditation.

At the moment, the Gilas roster lists Asi Taulava, Kelly Williams, Chris Tiu, J. V. Casio, Greg Slaughter, Mac Baracael, Mark Barroca, Marcio Lassiter, Japeth Aguilar, Aldrech Ramos, Jason Ballesteros and Dylan Ababou.

Toroman said Lassiter is expected to arrive any day now after finishing therapy in the US. “I’m hoping Marcio will play in the Asian Games,” he said. “But he has to be committed. He’s our best player, the only one whom I think can play in the European leagues. It’s not right what he did, that he left without telling anyone. He has apologized for it. Let’s hope he’s back on track.”

Toroman said it’s difficult to predict what will happen in Guangzhou.

“It’s anybody’s game,” he said. “Jordan will send its B team without Rasheim Wright, Sam Daghles and Enver Soobzokov. Iran will be without Hamed Haddadi, Arsalan Kazemi and probably Samad Nikkhah Bahrami who is still injured. Lebanon may or may not play with Jackson Vroman, depending on whether he signs a contract to play in Europe. Qatar is down to seven healthy players because their coach (Ali Fakhroo) is working the players too hard in practice. I’m not sure if China will play Yi Jianlian who is in the NBA. So the competition is wide open.”

In the Asian Games, the Philippines must dispose of Saudi Arabia in the first round to join Chinese-Taipei, Iran, Qatar, Japan and Afghanistan or India in Group F in the second round. The top four in Group F will advance to the crossover quarterfinals.

Toroman and his wife Tanya were recently visited by their daughter Sandra and three-year-old grandson Djordje in Manila for a month. Sandra lives in Serbia with her husband Mladen Sekularac and Djordje. Sekularac, 29, was the Dallas Mavericks’ second round pick in the 2002 NBA draft.

Djordje, who stands three feet and 4 1/2 inches, is projected to grow up to 6-9. He is the apple of Toroman’s eye.

“When Rajko was in China with Gilas, he used to call three or four times a day to talk to Djordje,” said Tanya. “During Djordje’s visit, he would be with Rajko all the time. They even slept together. Once, during a Gilas practice game, Djordje, sitting behind the bench, reached out to embrace Rajko. We know we spoil Djordje but that’s what grandparents are for. Rajko is also very close with Sandra. She would go with Rajko to watch games when she was single. Once, in Holland, they drove three hours in a snowstorm just to watch a game up in the mountains.”

Toroman and Tanya, now married for 31 years, met as university students. After graduation, Toroman worked eight years as a chief executive of a trading company in Serbia. Then, Toroman got a call from the basketball club that he played for since his university days. The offer was to coach the team.

“Rajko was a point guard when he played,” said Tanya, an accomplished businesswoman who used to work for an electric power company and managed the distribution of Levi’s apparel and Suzuki cars and motorcycles in Serbia. “He always looked to pass first before shooting. Rajko was a good three-point shooter. He felt it was more important to get the entire team involved rather than just one man dominating.”

From coaching a club in Serbia, Toroman was recruited to call the shots for a Division I pro team in Greece when stars like Zarko Paspalj, Nicky Gallis and Alexander Volkov played. It began an odyssey that took Toroman to coaching jobs in Poland, Belgium, Holland, Cyprus, China, Hungary, Iran and finally the Philippines.

Of all the countries he has worked in, Toroman said the Philippines and Belgium were the standouts. “The Filipinos are just as friendly as the Serbs,” said Toroman whose brother lives in Los Angeles with their 84-year-old mother. “Belgium is a beautiful country, too. I don’t think there’s another country like the Philippines where basketball is as well-loved.”

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Thanks for the updates... :D

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:29 am 
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Our chances r good. Iran, Jor, Qat, Chi r not complete. Leb, Kaz n Syr not playing. That leaves Kor, Jpn, TPE. Bt we can't relax.
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wow. LEbanon not playing?

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The most dangerous team right now is actually South Korea as they had trained hard for the coming Asiad, they have a very secretive training in the US. They first recruited NBA Hall of Fame coach Lenny Wilkens to help prepare their team for this year's Asian Games in Guangzhou. Then changed their head coach by replacing Hur Jae and bringing in Yoo Jae-hak, Head Coach of reigning Korean Basketball League (KBL) champion Ulsan Mobis. They then opened the doors for more Kor-Foreign players to join the National Team. Sure to be part of the team is Lee Seung-Jun, formerly known as Eric Sandrin. Head coach Yoo Jae-hak had selected 12 players for the 2010 Asian Games at the end of its recent US training. It is said the team was impressive in their practice games versus D-league teams and NCAA Division I teams. It's said they fine-tuned their defense especially the man-to-man and the press while incorporating some aspects of the American style of Basketball to the very distinct Korean style of play. Just recently, former Portland Trailblazer Ha Seung-Jin trained with the 2010 Asian Games national team for the first time on Tuesday at the National Training Center in Taeneung, northern Seoul, and he will train with the team until Oct. 27.

China and Iran would be hit badly with the absence of their NBA players who are not allowed to play elsewhere when the NBA Season is on-going.
On October 27 would be the start of the 2009-10 NBA Regular Season while the Guangzhou Asian Games opens on November 12.

There are talks that Mohammad Samad Nikkhah Bahrami might also be absent from this year's Asian Games in addition to the Memphis Grizzlies Hamed Haddadi. It could be a mix of Iran's Team A (that saw action in the FIBA World Championship in Turkey) and Team B (which saw action in the FIBA-Asia Stankovic Cup).

China even without Yao Ming and Yi Jianlian, they would still be strong with Sun Yue and Wang Zhi Zhi still leading the team which could be made up mostly of those who seen action under Coach Bob Donewald Jr. in the FIBA World Championship in Turkey.

With regards to Japan, their players are currently pre-occupied with the JBL and BJ-League. There is no word yet on the composition of their National Team but it could probably the same as the one that finished 2nd to host Lebanon in the recent Beirut FIBA-Asia Stankovic Cup. There's the possibility the Naturalized Japanese and Jap-Foreign players would still boycott the National Team.

Chinese-Taipei also has not announced its team for the Asian Games. Like Japan, they might be sending their team that saw action at the FIBA-Asia Stankovic Cup. But am expecting a number of U18 National Players that saw action in Yemen to displace the ageing superstars who have caused problems to the CTBA due to their antics outside the court.

Then reports say Qatar has 6 injured key players and might be sending the team which Talk N Text faced last September.

We should not underestimate Afghanistan, their National Team was formed just like Gilas but majority of their players are actually based in the US and Canada and its core has been playing together since 2007.

It is confirmed Jordan would be sending its Team B but there are also reports that Mario Palma would not be returning to the Jordan bench.

For me our worst enemy is ourselves, we could lull into a false sense of security and will become complacent. We should not mind if the team is weak or not but instead play our best every game.

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Go Team Philippines, Kaya natin yan... :beer:

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Jr Cawaling out of Gilas.


NoliEala: JR Cawaling informed me of his decision to leave Gilas prog. Says he wants to concentrate on FEU. I respect that bt still sad to see hm go.
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Jr Cawaling out of Gilas.


NoliEala: JR Cawaling informed me of his decision to leave Gilas prog. Says he wants to concentrate on FEU. I respect that bt still sad to see hm go.
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Baka naman alam niya na sya ang malaglag once na pumasok na sina Douhtit or Mercado?
Yeah, sayang din yung pinaghirapan nya. But anyway, magagamit nya yun in his basketball career later on. 8)

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whinz wrote:
freewheeze wrote:
Jr Cawaling out of Gilas.


NoliEala: JR Cawaling informed me of his decision to leave Gilas prog. Says he wants to concentrate on FEU. I respect that bt still sad to see hm go.
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Baka naman alam niya na sya ang malaglag once na pumasok na sina Douhtit or Mercado?
Yeah, sayang din yung pinaghirapan nya. But anyway, magagamit nya yun in his basketball career later on. 8)



Yup, he probably thought he won't make the cut anyway since three pros are also joining the team.

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Baka naman alam niya na sya ang malaglag once na pumasok na sina Douhtit or Mercado?
Yeah, sayang din yung pinaghirapan nya. But anyway, magagamit nya yun in his basketball career later on. 8)



Yup, he probably thought he won't make the cut anyway since three pros are also joining the team.


That's what I'm thinking also.

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cawaling DID NOT make the cut in the Asiad line up, mga bro. he's just included in the pool like jazul and guevarra were.

my hunch is that he's joining the PBA draft in the next few years. 8)

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Senate committee okays Douthit bill
By Marvin Sy (The Philippine Star) Updated October 13, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (1)

MANILA, Philippines - The Senate committee on justice has adopted House Bill 2307, approving the application for naturalization of American basketball standout Marcus Douthit.

While Senate Bill No. 2559 has passed the committee level, it has to be approved at the plenary and it has to be done today to ensure Douthit’s inclusion in the roster of Smart Gilas national team for the Asian Games set Nov. 12-28 in Guangzhou, China.

Congress will have its last session day today as it will adjourn for a three-week break.

Senate committee on justice chairman Francis Escudero said the Samahan Basketbol ng Pilipinas should have President Benigno Aquino III certify the measure as urgent no later than this morning so that Congress can act on the measure during today’s session.

If the SBP fails to do this, the earliest Congress can act on the bill would be on Nov. 7.

This would make it very difficult for Douthit to make it to the RP team because once the measure is approved by Congress and signed by the President, it would have to be published in two major dailies in order to take effect.

After that Douthit will apply for a Philippine passport, a requirement for inclusion in the RP team.

The 6-11 Douthit was a star center for Providence College and was drafted No. 56 overall by the Los Angeles Lakers in the 2004 NBA draft.

Douthit told the senators that he has every intention of staying in the country and helping the Philippines secure a medal in the Asian Games and a spot in the 2012 Summer Olympics.

Smart Gilas head coach Rajko Toroman admitted that there is no guarantee that naturalized players such as Douthit would remain active as a national team player because there have been many cases in various countries where these players have opted out after a few years.

However, Toroman noted that he has worked with many American recruits before Douthit and that it is in Douthit that he saw the commitment to stay in the country long term.

Toroman pointed out that Douthit brought his wife and daughter over and that this is proof of his commitment to stay in the country.

SBP executive director Noli Eala told the committee that Douthit would not only help bring back the glory days of Philippine basketball but would also help younger players of the team develop their game.

Douthit had extensive experience in the NBA D-League and the European leagues.

The Office of the Solicitor General posed no objections to the grant of naturalization to Douthit because it is within the plenary power of Congress.

But the Bureau of Immigration raised concern about the amount of time – 76 days – Douthit has spent in the country.

It was also noted that he has not proven his contribution to the national team with his short stint in the country.

Eala emphasized that Douthit has played with the Smart Gilas squad in at least three international tournaments during which the Philippines was able to finish with respectable records.

He also reminded the senators that the last time the Philippines was able to secure a gold medal in the Asian Games was in the 1980s when the Northern Consolidated Cement team formed by businessman Eduardo “Danding” Cojuangco had three naturalized players in Chip Engeland, Jeff Moore and Dennis Steele.

The SBP actually submitted another player for naturalization, Zheng Xiaojing of China for the women’s national team, but according to Eala they had to defer this because the House of Representatives wanted to see how Douthit performs first as a test case.

Sen. Juan Miguel Zubiri, the sponsor of the bill in the Senate, said that Douthit has already shown his worth during his brief stint with Smart Gilas and would be vital cog in the country’s hope to bring the Philippines back to the forefront of international basketball.

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cawaling DID NOT make the cut in the Asiad line up, mga bro. he's just included in the pool like jazul and guevarra were.

my hunch is that he's joining the PBA draft in the next few years. 8)



so maybe he left before being informed that he will not make the cut?
because as per nolieala's tweet he left probably anticipating he won't be included on the final roster because of the inclusions of three PBA players.

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Hopefully mapasama na si Douthit sa roster habang maaga pa. Baka kasi daanin na naman sa technicality upang di siya makalaro...

Go Team Philippines... 8) 8)

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Hopefully mapasama na si Douthit sa roster habang maaga pa. Baka kasi daanin na naman sa technicality upang di siya makalaro...

Go Team Philippines... 8) 8)

I think he will be included in the final roster.. :D

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