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Gilas Final 12 for Fiba World Cup Announced

1. Andray Blatche
2. June Mar Fajardo
3. CJ Perez
4. Robert Bolick
5. Kiefer Ravena
6. Gabe Norwood
7. Mark Barroca
8. Roger Pogoy
9. Troy Rosario
10. Japeth Aguilar
11. Paul Lee
12. Raymond Almazan

Read more: https://sports.inquirer.net/363035/impr ... z5xcfRHLgw

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Gilas Pilipinas vs Adelaide 36ers….the second game loss is no surprise at all.
By Ron Galarpe

It was not a surprise to me that the second match of our Gilas Pilipinas against the 5th best Australian pro league team last year the Adelaide 36ers would be better and would beat in the process the said Philippine national basketball team.

Why? That is because logic would state that we have exactly 4 players that are in the process of getting into the groove and learning again the system of coach Yeng Guiao.

Of course, Kiefer Ravena had been practicing with the team for several weeks now but we all know that the feel is totally different when a player would come back to big time basketball after 18 months of missing it. On one hand, Junmar Fajardo, RR Pogoy, and Troy Rosario only made it harder for the whole Gilas team to gain ideal chemistry and cohesion.

Believe it or not, the whole Adelaide 36ers squad is no different from our own Gilas in terms of feeling team chemistry and cohesion. This is one reason that bothers me for our Gilas, because you will be surprised to know that the Australian 36ers have 4 new local players and 2 new American imports that just started practicing with the team and are still familiarizing their roles for coach Joey Wright.

The Adelaide 36ers in last year’s NBL season were led by local Aussie cage stars Daniel Johnson at the four, shooting guard Nathan Sobey, wingman Anthony Drmic, last year’s NBL rookie of the year center Harry Froling and import pair Ramone Moore and Jacob Wiley.

Saw action to this friendly against the Philippines were only Johnson, Froling and Moore. Anthony Drmic was present but did not play in both games. This means to say that the 36ers were not solid thus far in facing the Philippines last Friday and Sunday.

Yet still, coach Joey Wright brought with him the best 36ers roster that he could have, only that he has to settle for many adjustments, experimentations and system familiarization amongst the players against our Gilas team. The players worth mentioning are the following;

Daniel Johnson (6-11) - can be considered the only local 36er that almost became a national player for Australia, Johnson was the last cut for the final Australian national team roster in the 2012 London Olympics. He lead the 36ers in scoring and rebounding last year.
Harry Froling (6-11) - exposed himself in the tough US NCAA-Div 1 basketball tournament with Marquette University which may have lead to his recognition as Rookie of the Year in the NBL last year.

Ramone Moore (6-4 import) - is an experience global player having played in Italy, Hungary, Ukraine and Israel.
Eric Griffin (6-8 import) – also played in Italy and Puerto Rico as import. He is a product of a US Division 2 school in his collegiate career.

Deshon Taylor (6-9 import) – a product of the US NCAA-Div. 1 school Fresno State.
The new transferees as mentioned are veteran and University of Arizona graduate Daniel Dillon, Obie Kyei, Michael Harris and Kevin White.

The Philippines played competitively against Adelaide and you could feel proud as the scores were quite close considering we played them with 3 imports, a star player and a supporting cast that are solid veteran pro Aussie players.

However, Adelaide is not considered a powerhouse nowadays in the NBL and the roster that played us, by gut feel is weaker than their official roster last year.

With just 7 days more to go before our match with Italy, time is really not on our side. It seemed our organizers and officials forgot that this is the World Cup. It is a surprise to me that after years of planning and organization for our stint in this 2019 FIBA World Cup, the PBA playoffs still affected the preparation of our national team.

I still have hopes that we could advance in the qualifying round but it could be difficult and maybe much more difficult than the difficulties encountered by the Chot Reyes World Cup national team in 2014.

It takes a lot of effort to make our team cohesive and fluid in a short span of time that we need the utmost basketball IQs of all the players to reach such cohesion in time against Italy.

Yeng Guiao is in a dilemma, no time for pa pogi at pa relax-relax. They all got to work hard and maximize the time allotted on them.


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Gilas Pilipinas vs Adelaide 36ers….the second game loss is no surprise at all.
By Ron Galarpe

It was not a surprise to me that the second match of our Gilas Pilipinas against the 5th best Australian pro league team last year the Adelaide 36ers would be better and would beat in the process the said Philippine national basketball team.

Why? That is because logic would state that we have exactly 4 players that are in the process of getting into the groove and learning again the system of coach Yeng Guiao.

Of course, Kiefer Ravena had been practicing with the team for several weeks now but we all know that the feel is totally different when a player would come back to big time basketball after 18 months of missing it. On one hand, Junmar Fajardo, RR Pogoy, and Troy Rosario only made it harder for the whole Gilas team to gain ideal chemistry and cohesion.

Believe it or not, the whole Adelaide 36ers squad is no different from our own Gilas in terms of feeling team chemistry and cohesion. This is one reason that bothers me for our Gilas, because you will be surprised to know that the Australian 36ers have 4 new local players and 2 new American imports that just started practicing with the team and are still familiarizing their roles for coach Joey Wright.

The Adelaide 36ers in last year’s NBL season were led by local Aussie cage stars Daniel Johnson at the four, shooting guard Nathan Sobey, wingman Anthony Drmic, last year’s NBL rookie of the year center Harry Froling and import pair Ramone Moore and Jacob Wiley.

Saw action to this friendly against the Philippines were only Johnson, Froling and Moore. Anthony Drmic was present but did not play in both games. This means to say that the 36ers were not solid thus far in facing the Philippines last Friday and Sunday.

Yet still, coach Joey Wright brought with him the best 36ers roster that he could have, only that he has to settle for many adjustments, experimentations and system familiarization amongst the players against our Gilas team. The players worth mentioning are the following;

Daniel Johnson (6-11) - can be considered the only local 36er that almost became a national player for Australia, Johnson was the last cut for the final Australian national team roster in the 2012 London Olympics. He lead the 36ers in scoring and rebounding last year.
Harry Froling (6-11) - exposed himself in the tough US NCAA-Div 1 basketball tournament with Marquette University which may have lead to his recognition as Rookie of the Year in the NBL last year.

Ramone Moore (6-4 import) - is an experience global player having played in Italy, Hungary, Ukraine and Israel.
Eric Griffin (6-8 import) – also played in Italy and Puerto Rico as import. He is a product of a US Division 2 school in his collegiate career.

Deshon Taylor (6-9 import) – a product of the US NCAA-Div. 1 school Fresno State.
The new transferees as mentioned are veteran and University of Arizona graduate Daniel Dillon, Obie Kyei, Michael Harris and Kevin White.

The Philippines played competitively against Adelaide and you could feel proud as the scores were quite close considering we played them with 3 imports, a star player and a supporting cast that are solid veteran pro Aussie players.

However, Adelaide is not considered a powerhouse nowadays in the NBL and the roster that played us, by gut feel is weaker than their official roster last year.

With just 7 days more to go before our match with Italy, time is really not on our side. It seemed our organizers and officials forgot that this is the World Cup. It is a surprise to me that after years of planning and organization for our stint in this 2019 FIBA World Cup, the PBA playoffs still affected the preparation of our national team.

I still have hopes that we could advance in the qualifying round but it could be difficult and maybe much more difficult than the difficulties encountered by the Chot Reyes World Cup national team in 2014.

It takes a lot of effort to make our team cohesive and fluid in a short span of time that we need the utmost basketball IQs of all the players to reach such cohesion in time against Italy.

Yeng Guiao is in a dilemma, no time for pa pogi at pa relax-relax. They all got to work hard and maximize the time allotted on them.


Since sa PBA naman nanggagaling ang mga representative para sa mga FIBA games, dapat magkaroon ng concrete and sincere na program para sa Philippine Mens Basketball, eto ay ang PBA at kung sinomang basketball government agency sa Pinas…programa na win-win situation para sa both parties… para maiwasan ang lack of preparation na magre-resulta lang sa di magandang chemistry at less competitive ng Philippine Team.


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pupusta ako sa china

yung gilas, wala yan

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joeyj wrote:
Gilas Final 12 for Fiba World Cup Announced

1. Andray Blatche
2. June Mar Fajardo
3. CJ Perez
4. Robert Bolick
5. Kiefer Ravena
6. Gabe Norwood
7. Mark Barroca
8. Roger Pogoy
9. Troy Rosario
10. Japeth Aguilar
11. Paul Lee
12. Raymond Almazan

Read more: https://sports.inquirer.net/363035/impr ... z5xcfRHLgw


Go GILAS team. LABAN PILIPINAS... :) :D

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Mukhang walang tatalunin... :? :?


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Philippine brand of basketball is anchor on individual plays which will not work in international competition, because we lack of height and the quickness to compensate the disadvantage against our opponents. Quick ball movements and solid team work is key to beat other teams in FIBA. Korean team are as same height with Gilas, but they performs better in international competition because their team work and ball movement are superior as compare to us. Unless you are team USA, you might be successful if you just rely on individual skills.


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naghahanap ako ng take-charge guy sa lineup...



hinintay ko din magtimeout ang makintab na ulo ni Guiao, habang papaalagwa yung Italy nung 1st half...

kahit siguro personal conviction niya na wag magtimeout para mag-"mature" ang team on court, kailangan na talaga i-break yung free fall ng Galis este Gilas


no doubt mas malakas yung 2014 team

sino kaya ang susunod na coach hmm.....


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naghahanap ako ng take-charge guy sa lineup...



hinintay ko din magtimeout ang makintab na ulo ni Guiao, habang papaalagwa yung Italy nung 1st half...

kahit siguro personal conviction niya na wag magtimeout para mag-"mature" ang team on court, kailangan na talaga i-break yung free fall ng Galis este Gilas


no doubt mas malakas yung 2014 team

sino kaya ang susunod na coach hmm.....


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Hindi naman po sa mas malakas ang line-up ng batch 2014, kasi kung titingnan natin ang batch 2019 halos parehas lang din po ng kanilang mga skills and talent sa 2014….sa experience siguro mas lamang ang batch 2014… sa opinion ko po mas prepared po ung 2014 at bukod dun intact po ung mga players (except for Blatche & P. Lee) from runner-up finish sa FIBA Asia 2013 up to FIBA World Cup 2014..( na di katulad ngaung batch panay ang palit ng mga players) .. so ung end result magandang performance and almost beating up the likes of Croatia, Argentina and Puerto Rico… so makikita po natin dito ang importance ng magandang preparation na nagbubunga ng magandang resulta… sana lang talaga magkaroon ng concrete program ang SBP atbp govt basketball bodies at PBA para maiwasan ang mga ganitong problema sa future.. :-)


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rmagt_18 wrote:
The.Equalizer wrote:
naghahanap ako ng take-charge guy sa lineup...



hinintay ko din magtimeout ang makintab na ulo ni Guiao, habang papaalagwa yung Italy nung 1st half...

kahit siguro personal conviction niya na wag magtimeout para mag-"mature" ang team on court, kailangan na talaga i-break yung free fall ng Galis este Gilas


no doubt mas malakas yung 2014 team

sino kaya ang susunod na coach hmm.....


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Hindi naman po sa mas malakas ang line-up ng batch 2014, kasi kung titingnan natin ang batch 2019 halos parehas lang din po ng kanilang mga skills and talent sa 2014….sa experience siguro mas lamang ang batch 2014… sa opinion ko po mas prepared po ung 2014 at bukod dun intact po ung mga players (except for Blatche & P. Lee) from runner-up finish sa FIBA Asia 2013 up to FIBA World Cup 2014..( na di katulad ngaung batch panay ang palit ng mga players) .. so ung end result magandang performance and almost beating up the likes of Croatia, Argentina and Puerto Rico… so makikita po natin dito ang importance ng magandang preparation na nagbubunga ng magandang resulta… sana lang talaga magkaroon ng concrete program ang SBP atbp govt basketball bodies at PBA para maiwasan ang mga ganitong problema sa future.. :-)

pano ba ang pagsukat ng skills and talent na yan?

so kung sasabihing magkasinglakas lang ang lineup, di ba dapat pareho ng results sa games more or less ? definitely malayo naman ang resulta so far nung 2014 NT sa 40+ loss

kung kapos sa preparation, some of the other Euro teams also suffer from this.....saka hindi ba kasama sa "lakas" ang teamwork, familiarity, cohesion ng isang team ?

yung naman experience, experience saan ? kung FIBA experience, e si Bolick at Perez lang ang hindi pa yata nakalaro sa FIBA games dyan sa lineup ngayon..

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nag eexperiment daw pala ang Serbia ng Tall Ball....


4 guards lang ang nasa lineup nila sa WC ngayon :shock:






ayos pagkakataon na ng Smart Galis :lol:


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i expect gilas to beat serbia handily

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The.Equalizer wrote:
rmagt_18 wrote:
The.Equalizer wrote:
naghahanap ako ng take-charge guy sa lineup...



hinintay ko din magtimeout ang makintab na ulo ni Guiao, habang papaalagwa yung Italy nung 1st half...

kahit siguro personal conviction niya na wag magtimeout para mag-"mature" ang team on court, kailangan na talaga i-break yung free fall ng Galis este Gilas


no doubt mas malakas yung 2014 team

sino kaya ang susunod na coach hmm.....


:lol:

Hindi naman po sa mas malakas ang line-up ng batch 2014, kasi kung titingnan natin ang batch 2019 halos parehas lang din po ng kanilang mga skills and talent sa 2014….sa experience siguro mas lamang ang batch 2014… sa opinion ko po mas prepared po ung 2014 at bukod dun intact po ung mga players (except for Blatche & P. Lee) from runner-up finish sa FIBA Asia 2013 up to FIBA World Cup 2014..( na di katulad ngaung batch panay ang palit ng mga players) .. so ung end result magandang performance and almost beating up the likes of Croatia, Argentina and Puerto Rico… so makikita po natin dito ang importance ng magandang preparation na nagbubunga ng magandang resulta… sana lang talaga magkaroon ng concrete program ang SBP atbp govt basketball bodies at PBA para maiwasan ang mga ganitong problema sa future.. :-)

pano ba ang pagsukat ng skills and talent na yan?

so kung sasabihing magkasinglakas lang ang lineup, di ba dapat pareho ng results sa games more or less ? definitely malayo naman ang resulta so far nung 2014 NT sa 40+ loss

kung kapos sa preparation, some of the other Euro teams also suffer from this.....saka hindi ba kasama sa "lakas" ang teamwork, familiarity, cohesion ng isang team ?

yung naman experience, experience saan ? kung FIBA experience, e si Bolick at Perez lang ang hindi pa yata nakalaro sa FIBA games dyan sa lineup ngayon..

pano ba ang pagsukat ng skills and talent na yan?

obvious naman po ang sagot dito kasi di masasama sa pool o pagpipilian ang mga atheletes kung wala sila neto., kumbaga ang mga basketball authorities sa Pilipinas ang in-charge dito para kunin ang tinatawag na cream of the crop.

so kung sasabihing magkasinglakas lang ang lineup, di ba dapat pareho ng results sa games more or less ? definitely malayo naman ang resulta so far nung 2014 NT sa 40+ loss

para saken hindi po ganun ang logic… kung matatandaan ninyo nung binuo ang unang U.S. dream team para sa 1992 Barcelona Olympics at nung magkaroon sila ng exhibition game (close door) against sa isang U.S. college team na selection ang result po natalo ung 1992 dream team nila Michael Jordan… ang point ko lang po dito kung wala o kulang ang preparation kahit anong galing nung mga players ay mababalewala po ang mga galing nila.

kung kapos sa preparation, some of the other Euro teams also suffer from this.....saka hindi ba kasama sa "lakas" ang teamwork, familiarity, cohesion ng isang team ?

Un nga po ang pinupunto ko dito…less preparation result = less chemistry/cohesion, less system, less game plan and less etc. and final = end result poor performance. At kung iko-kumpara po natin ang mga Euro team na meron din silang mga problemang ganito ibang kaso na po un., kasi di natin alam kung anong meron silang back-up plan o contingencies o program pag nahaharap sila sa ganitong lack of preparation.

yung naman experience, experience saan ? kung FIBA experience, e si Bolick at Perez lang ang hindi pa yata nakalaro sa FIBA games dyan sa lineup ngayon..

Agree po ako na si Bolick at Perez lang ang wala pang international experience, pero sa pinakita nilang dalawa nung first game against Italy masasabi natin na kaya nilang sumabay internationally, so aside po sa dalawa si Rosario, Ravena, Almazan at pogoy ang bago sa Philippine team..pero kung iko-compare po natin sa batch 2014 it’s obvious po na ahead po sa basketball experience in general ung 2014.


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Philippine brand of basketball is anchor on individual plays which will not work in international competition, because we lack of height and the quickness to compensate the disadvantage against our opponents. Quick ball movements and solid team work is key to beat other teams in FIBA. Korean team are as same height with Gilas, but they performs better in international competition because their team work and ball movement are superior as compare to us. Unless you are team USA, you might be successful if you just rely on individual skills.


What i saw from the game against Italy is they are trash.I think we should build for the next world cup. No more Aquilar, Fajardo, Pogoy, alazaman, Lee, Norwood and so on they are all trash.Develop new players.And get some height and allow taller players more freedom to be all round players meaning ball handlers and shoot deep create their own shots.Also a new coach. That bald guy suxx. The game has changed it's a 3 ball kind of game.

More shooters from deep. Develop shooters!!


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Parang sa tinakbo ng pangyayari parang di pumabor sa Pinas ung pagkakaroon ng bagong format ung regarding sa qualification for FIBA world cup. Na obserbahan ko lang po kasi dahil sa nagdaang qualifying round na merong different windows, ung pagbubuo ng national team ay hindi nagiging madali dahil madalas conflict sa schedule ng PBA games.... at dahil diyan panay ang palit ng mga players at ung preparation madalas gahol sa panahon….lalo na etong huling preparation na 2 weeks na lang ang WC 2019 ay ung ibang key players ay naglalaro pa rin sa PBA….di katulad noon na every two years ang FIBA Asia which serves as a qualifying for the following year either FIBA WC or Olympics…kaya siguro naging maganda ang performance nung batch 2014 kasi ung nag-runne-up finish nung FIBA Asia 2013 ay sila rin ung nag-represent sa FWC 2014 – kumbaga intact ang mga players (except blatche & p.lee)…. siguro it’s about time na rin talaga na I-reboot ung programa ng Philippine Basketball team… na sana magkaroon ng isang malaking sponsor o private company sa Pilipinas na willing magbuo ng isang Philippine basketball team na parang katulad ng NCC nung early 80’s…na nakakontrata ang mga players na at least 5 years sa Philippine team na ang mission ay maglaro lang para sa Pilipinas…na ung company/sponsor na eto ay kayang magbigay o tapatan ang mga sahod at benefits na katulad ng nasa PBA. Sa palagay ko po pag meron pong ganito sa Pilipinas ay hindi na magiging conflict sa PBA at the same time mananatiling intact ang mga players at akma o fit siya sa current format ng FIBA qualifying round. At hindi rin naman eto mababakante, they can join/participate in one conference in PBA pag wala pang FIBA games. :-)


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