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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:09 pm 
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Ok, gone is the wild reckless magsayo so ALA is listening.

Nice jabs but there is one glaring weakness again with ALA boxers.

STAMINA and Conditioning.

Magsayo faded and was looking like he was ready for the taking in the late round sayang walang lakas ang japanese.

Like Villanueva. Magsayo will get knocked out if he fights a top caliber boxer.

Why don't they train in Bagui or Tagaytay high altitude training like Team LAKAY?

They keep doing the same routine over and over again and getting the same result.


Filipino diet sucks that's why... it's like rice vs beans...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Ancajas has better potentials than Magsayo. Better boxing skills and full stamina.
Ancajas is the next Pinoy great !


Magsayo is just that at the moment, potential, a long way to go. He is my favorite ALA fighter because of his brawling style, but he was exposed even more against the Japanese. It's not just the stamina, the technique and even the power are lacking, maybe fine against a smaller opponent.

Nietes is just growing old, too bad, and he is at a weight that is not popular.

Ancajas is already way up there fulfilling his potential, and the world has taken notice, Michael Conlan even calling him "mini-Pacquiao". For someone who has been watching boxing for some time, it is easy to spot that Ancajas is top world class. But give credit to ALA for getting a lot of press mileage in RP, Filipinos probably know Magsayo more than Ancajas, while the world knows Ancajas and have never heard of Magsayo.

Like Pacman, Ancajas now has to decimate the top stars to become a mega star - Inoue, Sor Rungvisai, Yafai, Estrada. Estrada is what I am most worried about, Brian Viloria's conqueror, he is a sleek operator. Gonzalez has no power at superflyweight, so he's just a stepping stone. Come to think of it, Ancajas is the tallest among the lot, it will serve him well once he moves up in weight.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:12 pm 
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wooks425 wrote:
Ancajas has better potentials than Magsayo. Better boxing skills and full stamina.
Ancajas is the next Pinoy great !


Magsayo is just that at the moment, potential, a long way to go. He is my favorite ALA fighter because of his brawling style, but he was exposed even more against the Japanese. It's not just the stamina, the technique and even the power are lacking, maybe fine against a smaller opponent.

Nietes is just growing old, too bad, and he is at a weight that is not popular.

Ancajas is already way up there fulfilling his potential, and the world has taken notice, Michael Conlan even calling him "mini-Pacquiao". For someone who has been watching boxing for some time, it is easy to spot that Ancajas is top world class. But give credit to ALA for getting a lot of press mileage in RP, Filipinos probably know Magsayo more than Ancajas, while the world knows Ancajas and have never heard of Magsayo.

Like Pacman, Ancajas now has to decimate the top stars to become a mega star - Inoue, Sor Rungvisai, Yafai, Estrada. Estrada is what I am most worried about, Brian Viloria's conqueror, he is a sleek operator. Gonzalez has no power at superflyweight, so he's just a stepping stone. Come to think of it, Ancajas is the tallest among the lot, it will serve him well once he moves up in weight.


I wanna see him beat Inoue to shut my Japanese friends up :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:33 pm 
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wooks425 wrote:
gritsteel2 wrote:
wooks425 wrote:
Ancajas has better potentials than Magsayo. Better boxing skills and full stamina.
Ancajas is the next Pinoy great !


Magsayo is just that at the moment, potential, a long way to go. He is my favorite ALA fighter because of his brawling style, but he was exposed even more against the Japanese. It's not just the stamina, the technique and even the power are lacking, maybe fine against a smaller opponent.

Nietes is just growing old, too bad, and he is at a weight that is not popular.

Ancajas is already way up there fulfilling his potential, and the world has taken notice, Michael Conlan even calling him "mini-Pacquiao". For someone who has been watching boxing for some time, it is easy to spot that Ancajas is top world class. But give credit to ALA for getting a lot of press mileage in RP, Filipinos probably know Magsayo more than Ancajas, while the world knows Ancajas and have never heard of Magsayo.

Like Pacman, Ancajas now has to decimate the top stars to become a mega star - Inoue, Sor Rungvisai, Yafai, Estrada. Estrada is what I am most worried about, Brian Viloria's conqueror, he is a sleek operator. Gonzalez has no power at superflyweight, so he's just a stepping stone. Come to think of it, Ancajas is the tallest among the lot, it will serve him well once he moves up in weight.


I wanna see him beat Inoue to shut my Japanese friends up :lol:


Oh, yes, would love that too. I think he can do it right now, but promoters like to tease for more money, so it won't be soon. Well, can't blame your Japanese friends, Inoue is their superstar.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:23 pm 
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gritsteel2 wrote:
wooks425 wrote:
I wanna see him beat Inoue to shut my Japanese friends up :lol:


Oh, yes, would love that too. I think he can do it right now, but promoters like to tease for more money, so it won't be soon. Well, can't blame your Japanese friends, Inoue is their superstar.


Kal Yafai might be first, but provided Eddie Hearn is not scared of Jerwin. One downside of his win against Conlan was that it may have scared off others.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/11/jer ... rfly2-feb/


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:31 am 
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Perhaps ALA should stop challenging the best in the world when their boxers are simply going to get wrecked.Do not have the tools to protect themselves from a beating or at least hold their own in the ring so they do not get dominated so badly to prevent injuries.Because Only bad things will happen and tragedy is going to come out of it.

The amount of brutal losses the ALA gym has is beginning to be alarming. 10 years and nothing but brutal beat downs. If you are not concerned because these boyz get free scholarships and are taken cared for when they suffer horrendous injuries then great.But i think it's going to continue and get worse and that they have to be at least start questioning their operation surely..

or at least make changes but until now they still are stubborn..How many times are we going to see their boxer fade and look like punching bags because they are tired, too tired to fight back or protect themselves.

This is a dangerous sport. Just saying!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:57 am 
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Pwedeng mangyari din ganito kay Nietes kahit na nga hindi popular ang weight niya. Bukod sa kumita na sila (boxer and promoter) may world record pa na hindi na mabubura sa kasaysayan ng boxing sa mundo man o sa Pinas.

The threat to Mayweather's remarkable half-century has quietly taken place in boxing's smallest weight division, and edged a step closer over the weekend in a fight that few people saw, or even know happened.

Wanheng Menayothin, from Thailand, holds a legitimate world title and sports a 49-0 record, the best numbers that any current world champion can boast.

He won the world title three years ago and has since strung together eight defences (most recently on Saturday against Japan's Tatsuya Fukuhara) yet his record is interspersed with sporadic bouts of just six and eight rounds. His desire to remain active has resulted in 13 total fights in three years, a remarkable rate, but also raises questions about the calibre of his opposition.


The 'Thailand Dwarf Giant' or Chayaphon Moonsri as Menayothin is also known has also boxed his entire 10-year career as a minimumweight, the lowest possible division, at seven-and-a-half pounds despite his obvious dominance. Also notable is that the WBA champion in Menayothin's division is a fellow Thai, the excellently named Knockout CP Freshmart (Thammanoon Niyomtrong). Perhaps it will happen as it seems a natural fit, but there has been no unification fight yet.

So what is the end-game for Menayothin? He will likely match Mayweather's 50-0 record in the early part of 2018 if his current rate of activity continues but, even then, what does his accomplishment count for? After all, there have been other incredible boxing records - Julio Cesar Chavez was famously 87-0 while Rocky Marciano retired at 49-0.

Mayweather might sympathise with Menayothin's inability to get noticed as a small man in the low weight divisions but, then again, he probably wouldn't care. Mayweather overcame that disadvantage by becoming a world champion in five divisions, adding the names of legendary opposition to his résumé. Menayothin could win 50 more fights without achieving as much.

Yet the Thailand minimumweight will occupy a unique place in history, should that elusive 50th win arrive, which is more than most of us can dream of. Not everyone will know his name but those that do will await Menayothin equalling Mayweather's record.

Menayothin (L) beat Tatsuya Fukuhara (via Bangkok Post)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:49 pm 
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Numero uno wrote:
Perhaps ALA should stop challenging the best in the world when their boxers are simply going to get wrecked.Do not have the tools to protect themselves from a beating or at least hold their own in the ring so they do not get dominated so badly to prevent injuries.Because Only bad things will happen and tragedy is going to come out of it.

The amount of brutal losses the ALA gym has is beginning to be alarming. 10 years and nothing but brutal beat downs. If you are not concerned because these boyz get free scholarships and are taken cared for when they suffer horrendous injuries then great.But i think it's going to continue and get worse and that they have to be at least start questioning their operation surely..

or at least make changes but until now they still are stubborn..How many times are we going to see their boxer fade and look like punching bags because they are tired, too tired to fight back or protect themselves.

This is a dangerous sport. Just saying!


It is dangerous ...

At least Aldeguer says no need to rush Magsayo, and that he needs more fights like the last one. They know this, but the problem is the training. They should hire someone new. As for the bums they pair with their fighters, come on, no need to even look beyond Philippines, lots of fighters here to test their fighters.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:51 pm 
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vicus2005 wrote:
Pwedeng mangyari din ganito kay Nietes kahit na nga hindi popular ang weight niya. Bukod sa kumita na sila (boxer and promoter) may world record pa na hindi na mabubura sa kasaysayan ng boxing sa mundo man o sa Pinas.

The threat to Mayweather's remarkable half-century has quietly taken place in boxing's smallest weight division, and edged a step closer over the weekend in a fight that few people saw, or even know happened.

Wanheng Menayothin, from Thailand, holds a legitimate world title and sports a 49-0 record, the best numbers that any current world champion can boast.

He won the world title three years ago and has since strung together eight defences (most recently on Saturday against Japan's Tatsuya Fukuhara) yet his record is interspersed with sporadic bouts of just six and eight rounds. His desire to remain active has resulted in 13 total fights in three years, a remarkable rate, but also raises questions about the calibre of his opposition.


The 'Thailand Dwarf Giant' or Chayaphon Moonsri as Menayothin is also known has also boxed his entire 10-year career as a minimumweight, the lowest possible division, at seven-and-a-half pounds despite his obvious dominance. Also notable is that the WBA champion in Menayothin's division is a fellow Thai, the excellently named Knockout CP Freshmart (Thammanoon Niyomtrong). Perhaps it will happen as it seems a natural fit, but there has been no unification fight yet.

So what is the end-game for Menayothin? He will likely match Mayweather's 50-0 record in the early part of 2018 if his current rate of activity continues but, even then, what does his accomplishment count for? After all, there have been other incredible boxing records - Julio Cesar Chavez was famously 87-0 while Rocky Marciano retired at 49-0.

Mayweather might sympathise with Menayothin's inability to get noticed as a small man in the low weight divisions but, then again, he probably wouldn't care. Mayweather overcame that disadvantage by becoming a world champion in five divisions, adding the names of legendary opposition to his résumé. Menayothin could win 50 more fights without achieving as much.

Yet the Thailand minimumweight will occupy a unique place in history, should that elusive 50th win arrive, which is more than most of us can dream of. Not everyone will know his name but those that do will await Menayothin equalling Mayweather's record.

Menayothin (L) beat Tatsuya Fukuhara (via Bangkok Post)


If I remember right, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr got 50 easily without a loss, but then continued fighting.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:26 pm 
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Oh, yes, would love that too. I think he can do it right now, but promoters like to tease for more money, so it won't be soon. Well, can't blame your Japanese friends, Inoue is their superstar.
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True although it would still be best if Jerwin beats Inoue in Tokyo 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:31 am 
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anyone that says magsayo is the next pacquiao must be a bum. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:03 pm 
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BEELZEBUB wrote:
Numero uno wrote:
Ok, gone is the wild reckless magsayo so ALA is listening.

Nice jabs but there is one glaring weakness again with ALA boxers.

STAMINA and Conditioning.

Magsayo faded and was looking like he was ready for the taking in the late round sayang walang lakas ang japanese.

Like Villanueva. Magsayo will get knocked out if he fights a top caliber boxer.

Why don't they train in Bagui or Tagaytay high altitude training like Team LAKAY?

They keep doing the same routine over and over again and getting the same result.


Filipino diet sucks that's why... it's like rice vs beans...



Magsayo already commits one of the cardinal sins of Boxing. Not KEEPING YOUR HANDS UP AT ALL TIMES.

Watch where his hands go specially when he is tired down his waist.

NOT GOOD. That's a boxing sin.

Ancajas has his hands up and jab brings his hands straight back.Even Pacquiao has his hands up.

He can get away with that against the lower level not against the champions.

ALA doing anything about it? NO!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:25 am 
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I preferred Magsayo to fight in a championship rather than to fight Jojo Diaz for the elimination, His chance of beating the champion is very high but to fight Jojo Diaz is still a 50/50 chance because Jojo is a very good technical fighter though he has no enough power to knock out an opponent. Even if Magsayo will lose, if he can give a tough fight against the champion, the world will start recognize him. On the other hand, if he cant beat Jojo Diaz, a deep deep hole to dig again for him to go back on top. :)


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Lets face it, ALA trainers should level up


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rjunz1 wrote:
Lets face it, ALA trainers should level up


Agree. They have to up their game much higher otherwise forever be mediocre

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