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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:52 pm 
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nabasa ko na full text ng decision ng SEC. i agree with the decision. syempre yugn mga gunggong na delawan dito, mag rereact dito sa post ko :biglaugh:

simplehan natin

ang batas:
ang isang media company dapat 100% owned and controlled by filipinos. ayon sa 1987 consitution

ang nangyari:
- may mga dayuhan gustong mamuhunan sa rappler. malaking halaga ng dolyar. eh hindi pwede magpasok ng funds mula sa poreyner sa rappler dahil sa constitutional prohibition.

- naglalaway ang rappler sa laki ng dolyares na ipapasok sa kumpanya nila. nag isip ang gunggong. lo and behold!! nakapag isip sila ng paraan para ma circumvent ang batas

- nagtayo ang may-ari ng rappler ng isang holding company - ang rappler holdings, inc. 100% filipino owned din. para sa mga bobong nagbabasa dito (e.g. yung gurang, yung fil-sham, etc), :biglaugh: :biglaugh: ang holding company ay isang negosyo na tumatanggap ng pera mula sa kung sino sinong investors, at yung kumpanya na ang bahala kung saan nila ilalagak ang pera - pwedeng iinvest sa ibang kumpanya for higher returns, pwede nilang ilagay sa stock market, etc. kumbaga, pinagkatiwala ng investor ang kanyang pera sa holding company at sitting pretty na lang sya mag aantay ng income mula sa holding company. wala syang pakialam kung saan iinvest ang kanyang pera.

- me nag invest na 2 foreign company sa rappler holdings. para me ebidensya na ng invest nga sila na nag invest sa rappler, holdings. at me inaasahan silang kita mula sa kanilang pamumuhunan, humingi si investor ng katibayan. ayun, nag issue si rappler holdings ng philippine depositary receipts (PDR). tama ba ang ginawa ng rappler holdings?? oo. tama naman sila.

- yung pera ng rappler holdings (kasama ng pera mula sa 2 foreign investors), pinag invest ngayon sa rappler. pwede ba yun? pwede naman ayon sa batas natin. eh ang lalabas na investor yung rappler holdings which is a 100% filipino-owned corporation.

- ang problema, yung PDR ng isang foreign investor, me nakalagay sa agreement na hindi pwede mag amend o baguhin ng rapper holdings at rappler ang kanilang articles of incorporation ng walang consent ang foreign company na yun. sabi ng SEC, aba!! pagkokontrol na yang ginagawa nyo mister foreign investor. bawal yan sa batas. sabi na rappler, hindi naman kami nyan kinokontrol dahil hindi naman sila ang may ari. reply ng SEC, neknek nyu!! si mang adme ng pacland lang maniniwala sa inyo.

- dahil dyan pinak revoke ng SEC ang registration ng rappler.

- humirit pa si rappler. sabi di daw sila media company kaya di sila covered ng 100% ownership and control requirements

- sagot ng SEC. neknek nyu uli!! sabihin nyu yan dun sa delawang gurang ng pacland at maniniwala yun sainyu


:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

thanks torni, very detailed and clear even for non-lawyers

hinala ko yun dalawang gurang, maghahanap ng part about freedom of speech hihihihih hinala ko lang naman :lol: :lol:



kawawang Rappler, putol ang subsidy galing sa ___ ak ak ak :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:00 pm 
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JABEZJ wrote:
Dictador lang ang nagpapasara ng media outlets...


Pwede ring sabihin na ang nagpapasara ng media outlets ay balak maging Diktador...

Historically proven yan. Not only in Pinas but the whole world. Dapat lang umatungal pag may ganyang tendencies ang presidente.

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PeluBoy wrote:
Admerald wrote:
edap wrote:
mang sueno natsismis.............................sibak sa pwesto.


vp bong go natsismis...........................ipinasara iyong nagtsismis.

sakto!

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oi! buhay na naman ang kalabaw at ang langaw riding in tandem..


:lol: :lol: :lol:

plis clarify brad :shock:

sino yun kalabaw

sino yun langaw

thanks

PS yun tae pala sino din


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Wag nang malungkot. Qualified ka namang maging langaw at kalabaw ang Resident Newsbreaker and vice versa.
Yung tae maraming qualified diyan kaDDS man o Loyalista. Una na diyan yung Septic Tank Engenger. :mrgreen:

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hihihihih san nanggagaling yan parang me hugot :lol:

parang out of the blue a......hmm teka baka naman kadobol ni ___


ahihihihihihihihihih :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:08 pm 
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reigncourts wrote:
JABEZJ wrote:
Dictador lang ang nagpapasara ng media outlets...


Pwede ring sabihin na ang nagpapasara ng media outlets ay balak maging Diktador...

Historically proven yan. Not only in Pinas but the whole world. Dapat lang umatungal pag may ganyang tendencies ang presidente.


So true...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:54 pm 
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mismo :shock:

hindi press freedom ang mambilog ng utak ng masa

ok naman talaga ang maging watchdog, that's an ideal to aspire for

pero ibang usapan pag ginamit ang catchphrase na yan as a huge cover to hide behind while furthering ulterior agendas....napakatagal na din nangyayari ang ganyan

sadly, andaming Pilipino ang natangay ng "press freedom" magic pill, hihinto na ang pag-iisip doon sa issue na, protect press freedom, media is the nation's watchdog, as part of the govt's checks and balances ek ek.......isn't it just as, or maybe even more, important, to examine the agendas of those who always cry "press freedom"?????

ang mas "entitled " to use catchphrases like this, and others like women's rights, protection for the marginalized sectors, at kung anuano pang ibang suporta na kayang ibigay ng constitution at batas natin, ay yung walang considerable clout, those who cannot afford expensive lawyers, walang pera, walang padrinong nalalapitan, in short yung maliliit na tao.....e yang Rappler? yang Inquirer? yang ABS-CBN na yan?

am I saying wala silang karapatan, per se? No.....ang punto, hindi naman automatic dapat pag sinabing "press freedom", lahat hihinto na mag- isip at sasabihing oo nga, tama sila....examine each and every situation.....look at the agendas behind the issues.....

Madami lang talaga iyakin. :lol:


Mismo, sabi ng langaw at uunga anang kalabaw. Ang alin? Yung walang kinalaman si Duterte sa issue ng Rappler o gumaganti siya sa mga puna ng Media? Maliwanag kung alin, di ba?

Paunawa: Ang Inquirer ang sumunod sa We Forum bilang boses ng masa pagkatapos ng EDSA '86. Ang tanong ay alin ba ang pipiliin natin base noong panahon ng Martial Law, Daily Express ni Marcos o We Forum ng Media. (Wag nang isali ang ABS-CBN dahil inagaw yan ng Marcos-Romualdez sa mga Lopez.)

Kung walang itinatago ang gobyerno, bakit ito matatakot sa Media kung marunong namang mag-isip ang taumbayan para alamin ang totoo o kasinungalingan? The ability to discern is not the monopoly of those in gov't qnd supporters. Kabaliktaran yan madalas. :D

yung agenda ng media orgs, na-consider ba sa post na yan?

so dahil "freedom of the press" ang slogan, hihinto na mag isip ganun ba?

andun yan sa post ko na na-quote :?

laging battlecry kasi ganyan, panahon ng Marcos dictatorship, napatumba dahil sa taongbayan, press, lahat nagtulongtulong ....so kumusta naman ang taongbayan pagkatapos? just because Inquirer was instrumental in deposing Marcos does not mean it does not have its own selfish agendas, in some respects mas malala pa ang damage nila, because they mold people's opinions, everyday, under the guise of "Balanced News, Fearless Views" so ang karaniwang tao, even so-called college grads, they are under the virtual mind control of that paper, they can only read and know what the editors, and ultimately the owners, decide to let them know.

well-trained ang tawag diyan, pag yung tao does not even bother to find out the reasons behind the issues, and just lashes out "because freedom of the press is threatened"....well-trained and conditioned by media, by textbooks, the educational system, the prevailing misbeliefs transferred from one `ignorant loudmouth to the next......it does not even bother you, that the Prietos have been unjustly reaping billions from a government-owned land, for so long because they were either friendly with previous Malacanang tenants, or they wielded considerable power (still continue to do so now, albeit in a rapidly diminishing role) to sway the people's minds thru Inquirer to the extent that they can virtually threaten the Malacanang occupant.....it does not matter, because all of this falls under "freedom of the press"?..... hmm maybe you need to look at things from a different angle, perhaps think BEYOND the popular yet noble slogans conveniently provided by the Prietos, the Madrigals, Aranetas, and all the rest of the 100 or so families that control this nation's wealth, power and influence......

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Kakasuhan daw ng Plunder ni Duterte yung mga Oligarchs na di nagbabayad ng buwis. Meron pa palang abogadong mas engot pa kaysa Resident hatornee ng Pacland. (In fairness, sa Math lang aminadong mahina-baba IQ kasi) ang ka-DDS na hatornee? :biglaugh:

Kung di nagbabayad ng tax, Tax evasion ang kaso at hindi Plunder. Sino ang kasabwat na gov't officer sa Tax evasion para pumasok ito sa Plunder Law, di ba? :D

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PeluBoy wrote:
yung agenda ng media orgs, na-consider ba sa post na yan?

so dahil "freedom of the press" ang slogan, hihinto na mag isip ganun ba?

andun yan sa post ko na na-quote :?

laging battlecry kasi ganyan, panahon ng Marcos dictatorship, napatumba dahil sa taongbayan, press, lahat nagtulongtulong ....so kumusta naman ang taongbayan pagkatapos? just because Inquirer was instrumental in deposing Marcos does not mean it does not have its own selfish agendas, in some respects mas malala pa ang damage nila, because they mold people's opinions, everyday, under the guise of "Balanced News, Fearless Views" so ang karaniwang tao, even so-called college grads, they are under the virtual mind control of that paper, they can only read and know what the editors, and ultimately the owners, decide to let them know.

well-trained ang tawag diyan, pag yung tao does not even bother to find out the reasons behind the issues, and just lashes out "because freedom of the press is threatened"....well-trained and conditioned by media, by textbooks, the educational system, the prevailing misbeliefs transferred from one `ignorant loudmouth to the next......it does not even bother you, that the Prietos have been unjustly reaping billions from a government-owned land, for so long because they were either friendly with previous Malacanang tenants, or they wielded considerable power (still continue to do so now, albeit in a rapidly diminishing role) to sway the people's minds thru Inquirer to the extent that they can virtually threaten the Malacanang occupant.....it does not matter, because all of this falls under "freedom of the press"?..... hmm maybe you need to look at things from a different angle, perhaps think BEYOND the popular yet noble slogans conveniently provided by the Prietos, the Madrigals, Aranetas, and all the rest of the 100 or so families that control this nation's wealth, power and influence......


It's either paranoid ka sa kakayahan ng media na mag-brainwash sa kaisipan ng taumbayan or you sorely underestimate the capacity of the reading public to discern truth from lies. Kahit nga yung Diktador di niya lubusang napaniwala ang taumbayan na di siya magnanakaw at HR violator in spite of Martial Law. Yung Press pa kaya? Tingin ko ikaw ang na brainwash ni Mocha Uson o sobra ka lang disillusioned sa mga Delawan. :D

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walang alam or walang kinalaman si bunganga sa pagpapasarang iyan.


di ba mga ka dds? :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

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PeluBoy wrote:
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hihihihih san nanggagaling yan parang me hugot :lol:

parang out of the blue a......hmm teka baka naman kadobol ni ___


ahihihihihihihihihih :lol: :lol:

#ngitngit
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IceColdBeer wrote:
PeluBoy wrote:
:shock:

hihihihih san nanggagaling yan parang me hugot :lol:

parang out of the blue a......hmm teka baka naman kadobol ni ___


ahihihihihihihihihih :lol: :lol:

#ngitngit
#kimkim

:whistle: :biglaugh:


Sori at di ko nasabing alert lang yon para sa next post ko. Ang hugot diyan ay yung banat nyo sa press freedom issue. Yun lang. :D

BTW: Kayo ba e nakabayad na ng buwis? Ingat lang baka tayo makasuhan ng Plunder. :biglaugh:

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reigncourts wrote:
PeluBoy wrote:
yung agenda ng media orgs, na-consider ba sa post na yan?

so dahil "freedom of the press" ang slogan, hihinto na mag isip ganun ba?

andun yan sa post ko na na-quote :?

laging battlecry kasi ganyan, panahon ng Marcos dictatorship, napatumba dahil sa taongbayan, press, lahat nagtulongtulong ....so kumusta naman ang taongbayan pagkatapos? just because Inquirer was instrumental in deposing Marcos does not mean it does not have its own selfish agendas, in some respects mas malala pa ang damage nila, because they mold people's opinions, everyday, under the guise of "Balanced News, Fearless Views" so ang karaniwang tao, even so-called college grads, they are under the virtual mind control of that paper, they can only read and know what the editors, and ultimately the owners, decide to let them know.

well-trained ang tawag diyan, pag yung tao does not even bother to find out the reasons behind the issues, and just lashes out "because freedom of the press is threatened"....well-trained and conditioned by media, by textbooks, the educational system, the prevailing misbeliefs transferred from one `ignorant loudmouth to the next......it does not even bother you, that the Prietos have been unjustly reaping billions from a government-owned land, for so long because they were either friendly with previous Malacanang tenants, or they wielded considerable power (still continue to do so now, albeit in a rapidly diminishing role) to sway the people's minds thru Inquirer to the extent that they can virtually threaten the Malacanang occupant.....it does not matter, because all of this falls under "freedom of the press"?..... hmm maybe you need to look at things from a different angle, perhaps think BEYOND the popular yet noble slogans conveniently provided by the Prietos, the Madrigals, Aranetas, and all the rest of the 100 or so families that control this nation's wealth, power and influence......


It's either paranoid ka sa kakayahan ng media na mag-brainwash sa kaisipan ng taumbayan or you sorely underestimate the capacity of the reading public to discern truth from lies. Kahit nga yung Diktador di niya lubusang napaniwala ang taumbayan na di siya magnanakaw at HR violator in spite of Martial Law. Yung Press pa kaya? Tingin ko ikaw ang na brainwash ni Mocha Uson o sobra ka lang disillusioned sa mga Delawan. :D


masyado namang simplistic ang pananaw mo :shock:

you know, most of those who prefer to get behind this admin, are not as stupid as Panot's supporters :lol:......nung time ng Martial Law, it was "hip" to be anti-Marcos, karamihan pa nga ang turing nila sa sarili nila "intellectually superior"...maybe your attitude comes from that, if not personally, maybe handed down from older generations of friends or relatives?


and yet, you still have not even acknowledged the agendas behind these newsmedia organizations....do you see the pattern in your reasoning? first, you cry "threat to press freedom", then shine the spotlight on the government, and emphasize if it has nothing to hide why fear the media, now you put the focus on me......you have basically been critical of virtually everything except whatever agendas ultimately drive these newsmedia companies....why is that? why do you stop thinking at the very point where knowledge and realization is even more crucial than the slogans themselves? :shock:

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mas matino pala ang "kultong baliwan" kesa sa "kultong dilawan". :lol: :lol:

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Kakasuhan daw ng Plunder ni Duterte yung mga Oligarchs na di nagbabayad ng buwis. Meron pa palang abogadong mas engot pa kaysa Resident hatornee ng Pacland. (In fairness, sa Math lang aminadong mahina-baba IQ kasi) ang ka-DDS na hatornee? :biglaugh:

Kung di nagbabayad ng tax, Tax evasion ang kaso at hindi Plunder. Sino ang kasabwat na gov't officer sa Tax evasion para pumasok ito sa Plunder Law, di ba? :D

IIRC in the same speech/tirade, binanggit ni Duterte si Kim Henares, ex-BIR chief

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mas ok pakinggan ang




.........Kultong Panot! bwahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

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