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Dan, ibabasura daw ni CJ bago siya bumaba, yung MR ni Lugaw regarding 50 percent shading. :whistle: :lol: :lol: :lol:


tiyak babaha naman ang luha ang mga dilaw :biglaugh:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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kailan ang oath taking ni vp bonbon?



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IceColdBeer wrote:
Dan, ibabasura daw ni CJ bago siya bumaba, yung MR ni Lugaw regarding 50 percent shading. :whistle: :lol: :lol: :lol:


tiyak babaha naman ang luha ang mga dilaw :biglaugh:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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pobreng imbetard wrote:
salamat naman at natigil na ang spamming. at last, natauhan na din na walang mali sa Constitution. at tanging mga malisyosong utak ng mga Marcoses lang ang nagsasabi nito.

kaya... palakpakan, merong himala!

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:shock:

apekted na apekted talaga ang mga Delawang tumanda na sa pagkakauto :lol:

ganyan talaga pag tumambad ang katotohanan sa mata ng mga nauto ng galawang Delawan.....masakit sa damdamin at "pride" hihihihihih



ngayon, para lalong magmukhang tanga ang nagpoposturang "profeysiyunal" daw siya, e bigyan natin ng mas malinaw na pagtingin :shock:


.....so to recap, this is the very crux of the matter
Lord Pelu wrote:
Dropping of Sabah Claim

Marcos, 1977.......negotiating ploy, did it push thru? :biglaugh:

Ninoy, 1983......scheme of a very ambitious politician, didn't push thru because tinigok

Cory, 1987......."1987 Constitution" :biglaugh:

paving the way for Santa Cory's stealthy November 1987 "move" :biglaugh:
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the 1987 Constitution had a very "intended" ambiguity, care of no other than Fr. Joaquin Bernas, S.J.....in fact the very phrase on the Territoriality clause, which in the 1973 Constitution read
1973 Constitution wrote:
“all other territories belonging to the Philippines by historic right or legal title”


had been amended in the 1987 Constitution, such exact amendment having been named the "Bernas amendment" after the renowned constitutionalist slash Coryista :lol: himself by his fellow Constitutional Commissioners. Bernas himself, referred to the "friction" with Malaysia that was generated by the specific 1973 territorial clause, and wanted the fledgling government of his beloved Cory to garner regional international support, and so was determined to create this ambiguity....he and Cory's other "henchmen" in the commission even tried to blatantly exclude ANY territoriality clause in the 1987 Constitution. Having failed at this, Bernas succeeded in having the amendment named after him approved by the commission. The voting on this notorious amendment had been swamped by "yes" votes that, in the words of the approving Commissioners' words, depended on Bernas' "interpretation" that it would not endanger the country's Sabah claim :shock:

It is even worth noting that with the amendment already having the numbers in its favor with the votes cast, the President of the Constitutional Commission, no less than the Honorable Cecilia Muñoz-Palma, voted "No" to the Bernas amendment, simply for the record--presumably to distance herself from such a drastic amendment that would result in the so-called ambiguity. She even had to double check the parliamentary rules of the Commission in her ardent desire to see if she, as the Presiding Officer of the Commission, could vote.

Hon. Cecilia Muñoz-Palma wrote:
Before the Secretary-General conducts a second call for those who have not registered their votes, the President desires to vote. I examined the Rules and there is actually no prohibition against the President voting. The Rule says: The President or the Presiding Officer shall not be obliged to vote except to break a tie. In other words, I can exercise my option to vote and I would like to vote.

I vote no because if, as stated here by the honorable
proponent and the other Members of the Commission, the amendment would not foreclose any possible claim on any territory including Sabah, then I believe there is no reason why we should change the phrase that is present in the amendment proposed by the sponsor and
by Commissioner Azcuna. I believe that the phrase “belonging to the Philippines by sovereign right or legal title” is more embracing and flexible to include all possible situations concerning the national territory of the Philippines. So, I vote no.


and of course, this, from Bernas trying to make excuses for the "ambiguity"
Fr. Joaquin G. Bernas, S.J. wrote:
“The validity of our territorial claims does not rest on constitutional sanction but on our historic rights……” “…….on the other hand, would a constitutional definition of territory have the effect of legitimizing a territorial claim not founded on some legal right protected by international law ?"



and then when the Supreme Court, an independent branch of the Philippine government, decided on a landmark ruling on the Archipelagic Baselines Law RA 9522, and interpreted favorably on the aforementioned ambiguity, the Delawan brigade is now trying to use this to sanitize the datardly act of Cory and her henchmen
Lord Pelu wrote:
the SC decision made in 2011, interpreted favorably for the country on the ambiguity created by Santa Cory's blatant attempt to renounce the claim.....does this erase Santa Cory and her henchmen's attempts to finally abandon the Sabah claim? .....the SC deserves patriotic praise for its interpretation of the wordings of the 1987 Constitution with its notorious "omission" admitted by Bernas himself :shock:, certainly.....but to absolve Santa Santita because of this SC decision? hihihihihih you must be a Dilawang uto-uto ak ak ak




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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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go go go Tito 'Nano ang unanong ngalbu :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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spamming is back! tribong... mauto.

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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kinumbinsi na naman ni ka dds pelumpaso ang sarili niya.



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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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kinumbinsi na naman ni ka dds pelumpaso ang sarili niya.



:lol: :lol:


Bakit pa kasi pinatulan pa natin ang walang kwentang UGOK na yan. PWEH!. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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^^

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Nag salita

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:31 am 
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don robert wrote:
platinum wrote:
Lumakas yang NPA nung panahon ni Cory... Libo libo yang umabot hanggang Manila.



Sige Roberta...



Eksplika



itong "fake news" na ito ay proof na Marcos talaga nagsimula, sila talaga ang nag pa uso nito. sa kaso natin, sila nag pasimula. kasi ang naniniwala lang dito either hindi pa pinanganak nung panahon ni Marcos or bob0ng supporter ni Marcos na ang alam lang ay "the coin has only one side".

napag usapan na yan dati dito, nagbigay na rin ng links to disprove this fake news. pero ang style ng mga bob0ng loyalista, inuulit ulit lang nila on different times. buti na lang me mga tao na nagdi disprove sa mga fake news na tulad nito.

paano masisi si Cory na sya nagparami ng NPA eh nung natapos ang termino nya, around 10,000 or less NPA members na lang natira sa 25,000 or 30,000 na sinasabi ng mga propagandists ni Marcos? unless paurong matematika nila.

ito a few of the many articles factual reporting about the NPA numbers:

Quote:
Quote:
At it's height in the mid-1980s, the CPP was reported to have a membership of 30,000 and the NPA from 10,000 to 15,000 active fighters. The guerrilla army was believed to be active in over two-thirds of the country's provinces, and the National Democratic Front (NDF), the party's political wing, was involved in running local government in up to a quarter of the barangays, the administrative units into which the Philippines is divided.

When Corazon Aquino became President in 1986, she negotiated a sixty-day ceasefire with the rebels, intended to provide the opportunity for both sides to explore the possibility of a longer-term settlement. However, the rebels and the military were unable to uphold the terms of the ceasefire. It broke down within two months. The negotiation period, when military force against the NPA was at a low level, is thought to have helped the party to expand its involvement in local government. However, there were already internal divisions, particularly regarding the decision to boycott the 1986 election that led to the downfall of Marcos, and active support for the party cause started to fall. By 1992, it was estimated that there were less than 10,000 NPA fighters compared with 25,000 in 1987. Throughout the 1990s, the party fragmented further into a number of competing groups.

Link: https://www.encyclopedia.com/politics/energy-government-and-defense-magazines/philippines-new-peoples-army-npa



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The NPA reached the height of its powers in the early-1980s during the dictatorship of Ferdinand Marcos, when it attracted widespread public support and had more than 25,000 members. In the democratic era, the movement has declined in strength but still retains an operational presence in most provinces across the country, and now has around 4,800 active members.

Link: https://asiaconflictwatch.com/tag/communist-party-of-the-philippines/


Quote:
The rebel force largely drew its base from Filipinos angered by the dictator Ferdinand Marcos’s harsh rule, and it was estimated at one point to have 25,000 fighters. But with the collapse of Communism worldwide and the overthrow of Marcos in the mid-1980s, it is believed to have only about 4,000 members today.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/world/asia/philippines-cpp-npa-communist-ceasefire.html




with these proofs, abangan nyo sagot ni mister tight pants, iibahin nya ang narrative.


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Bago ang lahat...









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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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:lol: :lol: :lol:


:mrgreen:

pilet








ginawa pang alas ng ts

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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:mrgreen:

Lapit na... Daming ng iyakan dito

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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Galit na yung huklubang poser :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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pobreng imbetard wrote:
spamming is back! tribong... mauto.

:lol:

Tito 'Nano wrote:
kinumbinsi na naman ni ka dds pelumpaso ang sarili niya.



:lol: :lol:

huklubang poser wrote:
Tito 'Nano wrote:
kinumbinsi na naman ni ka dds pelumpaso ang sarili niya.



:lol: :lol:


Bakit pa kasi pinatulan pa natin ang walang kwentang UGOK na yan. PWEH!. :mrgreen:


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iyak pa din ng iyak ang mga uto-utong Delawan

yung mga unano, imbetard at fearful.........tatatlo lang pero akala mo andami sa lakas ng uha wahahahaha mga kawawa talaga :lol: :lol: :lol:


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so swak na swak, kung baga pasok na pasok ka, bitag, dito sa bitag, diba?...


sakses na naman sa mga luhaang Delawan :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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re-post muna, maganda kasing pang-gising sa sambayanang nauto ng Delawan hihihi :lol:
pobreng imbetard wrote:
salamat naman at natigil na ang spamming. at last, natauhan na din na walang mali sa Constitution. at tanging mga malisyosong utak ng mga Marcoses lang ang nagsasabi nito.

kaya... palakpakan, merong himala!

:lol:

:shock:

apekted na apekted talaga ang mga Delawang tumanda na sa pagkakauto :lol:

ganyan talaga pag tumambad ang katotohanan sa mata ng mga nauto ng galawang Delawan.....masakit sa damdamin at "pride" hihihihihih



ngayon, para lalong magmukhang tanga ang nagpoposturang "profeysiyunal" daw siya, e bigyan natin ng mas malinaw na pagtingin :shock:


.....so to recap, this is the very crux of the matter
Lord Pelu wrote:
Dropping of Sabah Claim

Marcos, 1977.......negotiating ploy, did it push thru? :biglaugh:

Ninoy, 1983......scheme of a very ambitious politician, didn't push thru because tinigok

Cory, 1987......."1987 Constitution" :biglaugh:

paving the way for Santa Cory's stealthy November 1987 "move" :biglaugh:
Image



the 1987 Constitution had a very "intended" ambiguity, care of no other than Fr. Joaquin Bernas, S.J.....in fact the very phrase on the Territoriality clause, which in the 1973 Constitution read
1973 Constitution wrote:
“all other territories belonging to the Philippines by historic right or legal title”


had been amended in the 1987 Constitution, such exact amendment having been named the "Bernas amendment" after the renowned constitutionalist slash Coryista :lol: himself by his fellow Constitutional Commissioners. Bernas himself, referred to the "friction" with Malaysia that was generated by the specific 1973 territorial clause, and wanted the fledgling government of his beloved Cory to garner regional international support, and so was determined to create this ambiguity....he and Cory's other "henchmen" in the commission even tried to blatantly exclude ANY territoriality clause in the 1987 Constitution. Having failed at this, Bernas succeeded in having the amendment named after him approved by the commission. The voting on this notorious amendment had been swamped by "yes" votes that, in the words of the approving Commissioners' words, depended on Bernas' "interpretation" that it would not endanger the country's Sabah claim :shock:

It is even worth noting that with the amendment already having the numbers in its favor with the votes cast, the President of the Constitutional Commission, no less than the Honorable Cecilia Muñoz-Palma, voted "No" to the Bernas amendment, simply for the record--presumably to distance herself from such a drastic amendment that would result in the so-called ambiguity. She even had to double check the parliamentary rules of the Commission in her ardent desire to see if she, as the Presiding Officer of the Commission, could vote.

Hon. Cecilia Muñoz-Palma wrote:
Before the Secretary-General conducts a second call for those who have not registered their votes, the President desires to vote. I examined the Rules and there is actually no prohibition against the President voting. The Rule says: The President or the Presiding Officer shall not be obliged to vote except to break a tie. In other words, I can exercise my option to vote and I would like to vote.

I vote no because if, as stated here by the honorable
proponent and the other Members of the Commission, the amendment would not foreclose any possible claim on any territory including Sabah, then I believe there is no reason why we should change the phrase that is present in the amendment proposed by the sponsor and
by Commissioner Azcuna. I believe that the phrase “belonging to the Philippines by sovereign right or legal title” is more embracing and flexible to include all possible situations concerning the national territory of the Philippines. So, I vote no.


and of course, this, from Bernas trying to make excuses for the "ambiguity"
Fr. Joaquin G. Bernas, S.J. wrote:
“The validity of our territorial claims does not rest on constitutional sanction but on our historic rights……” “…….on the other hand, would a constitutional definition of territory have the effect of legitimizing a territorial claim not founded on some legal right protected by international law ?"



and then when the Supreme Court, an independent branch of the Philippine government, decided on a landmark ruling on the Archipelagic Baselines Law RA 9522, and interpreted favorably on the aforementioned ambiguity, the Delawan brigade is now trying to use this to sanitize the dastardly act of Cory and her henchmen
Lord Pelu wrote:
the SC decision made in 2011, interpreted favorably for the country on the ambiguity created by Santa Cory's blatant attempt to renounce the claim.....does this erase Santa Cory and her henchmen's attempts to finally abandon the Sabah claim? .....the SC deserves patriotic praise for its interpretation of the wordings of the 1987 Constitution with its notorious "omission" admitted by Bernas himself :shock:, certainly.....but to absolve Santa Santita because of this SC decision? hihihihihih you must be a Dilawang uto-uto ak ak ak


pahiram mang pubring :biglaugh:
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