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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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No more revising history,’says historian on Imelda Marcos conviction
By: Krixia Subingsubing - @inquirerdotnet Philippine Daily Inquirer / 06:14 AM November 11, 2018

Even if ex-first lady Imelda Marcos wasn’t jailed for graft, her conviction meant she or her family could no longer revise history, a historian said on Friday.

Maria Serena Diokno, former National Historical Commission of the Philippines chair, said she considered Imelda’s conviction as just a “tiny speck” in what the Marcos family had to pay for abuses committed during their more than 20-year reign in the country.

Diokno, daughter of the late senator and human rights stalwart Jose Diokno, said she, too, didn’t believe Imelda would be sent to jail.

“Even if she doesn’t end up in jail, she will not be able to escape this fact — today, it has been cemented in history that Imelda is a thief,” Diokno said.

“Try as they might, they will not be able to revise history anymore,” she said.

The 15th Division of the antigraft court Sandiganbayan on Friday ruled Imelda to be guilty of seven counts of graft for setting up Swiss-based foundations, through which she and the Marcoses funneled money.

She was sentenced to up to 11 years in jail for each count

House opposition member Rep. Edcel Lagman said the conviction was just judicial confirmation of corruption perpetrated by the Marcoses and their cronies during martial law.

The possible deferment of prison term, due to Imelda’s old age, he added, “does not diminish guilt.”

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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Former President Ferdinand Marcos could also be facing possible arrest if he were alive, as the three cases where former First Lady and Ilocos Norte
Rep. Imelda Marcos was acquitted has pointed to the late strongman as mastermind.


Sandiganbayan’s Fifth Division said in a decision on Friday that while Mrs. Marcos intervened in acquiring a Central Bank loan for ARCI, a locally-based entity,
it was Mr. Marcos who personally participated in its management

"A review of evidence points not to Ms. Marcos, but to her husband Mr. Marcos, who personally participated in the management, control, and direction of the affairs of ARCI,” Sandiganbayan said in page 68 of its 70-page decision.

"Evidence of her active participation in the management of and control thereof, which is prohibited under Article VIII, Section 11 of the 1973 Constitution, is insufficient,” she added.

Mrs. Marcos was found guilty for seven counts of graft as she was involved in managing Swiss foundations and transferring money around $200 million to banks in Switzerland,
while she was a Batasang Pambansa member, Metro Manila governor, and Minister of Human Resettlement.

While acquitted in two other cases, she is still facing possible jail time of from six years and one month up to 11 years for each count. She is given 30 days to explain her absence during the promulgation, and to file her motion for reconsideration.

She is also allowed to post bail, as graft is a bailable offense. However, if the decision is ruled with finality, she will also be disallowed from holding any public office.

Marcos pa rin...ang ibagsak!! :chainsaw:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:53 am 
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Guilty ba si BBM?

Mukhang malayo yata makulong si BBM..este si Meldy, Im sure the SC or any other court well reverse the decision, since this ombudsman division 5 is appointed by Pnoy and is know as a dilawan symphatizer, natural lang na hinde sila pabor kay Meldy.



Tiyak iyakan na naman sa kalye at sa social media sa bandang huli :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:55 pm 
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yan problema sa inyo mga loyalista eh, di kayo marunong magbasa at intindihin yung binabasa nyo. me sinabi ba dun sa post ko na mas matimbang si Erap kesa sa SC? :lol:

me nag cheer naman agad. yung spammer. nag i-spam pag talo na sa diskusyun. natalo pa lalo nung ayaw na magpost nung mahahabang spam. loser. :lol:

but it's a good thing, mister tight pants you mentioned about this particular ruling of the SC, wherein it mentions hindi naman daw pumirma si Imelda gurang.
kasi sa recent conviction ni Imelda gurang, merong evidence wherein she actually signed off as Jane Ryan sa Swiss account.

it is also fair to mention that of the 13 SC justices that voted, only 8 said the evidence against Imelda gurang was not strong enough. merong 5 SC justices disagreed and said the evidence was sufficient.

hindi UNANIMOUS ang botohan. which means nanalo lang si Imelda gurang on numbers. ang inosente, UNANIMOUS yan dapat.

but still, hindi lahat na kaso malulusutan ni Imelda gurang. kaya panay offer sila ng compromise sa gobyerno na maghatian na lang ng pera na nilustay nila sa kaban ng bayan.

which i highlighted na dati pa nag ooffer itong pamilyang Marcos, hindi lang sa panahon ni Duterte.

kung talagang pera nila yan, ba't sila nag ooffer na isauli ang bahagi nito?

magnanakaw nga kasi. ayun, guilty na naman sa Sandigan bayan!!!

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President Joseph Estrada said the decision would not affect efforts to recover the Marcoses' wealth. He said talks had resumed with the family on dividing the money with the Government.


Kaya ko sinabi walang bisa nanaman yung reply mo kasi a paragraph above it says walang nakaw (Supreme Court).

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The Supreme Court said today that Mrs. Marcos did not personally sign the lease and that prosecutors did not prove that the rates were ''grossly and manifestly disadvantageous'' to the Government.

The ruling said the court that convicted Mrs. Marcos had violated due process, with unscheduled and informal discussions outside its offices.



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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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Could, Would and Should...



:mrgreen:

Dakdak pa

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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reigncourts wrote:
No more revising history,’says historian on Imelda Marcos conviction
By: Krixia Subingsubing - @inquirerdotnet Philippine Daily Inquirer / 06:14 AM November 11, 2018


:mrgreen:


Bata pa pala nyan nag sulat na yan... Di pa ata marunong yan ng de ikot na telepono, ngayon magsusuat tungkol keh marcos


Wag lang kasi quote ng quote reigncourt.

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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Could, Would and Should...



:mrgreen:

Dakdak pa


Kaya "could have been" ang dakdak ng Sandigangbayan ay dahil patay na ang idol mong KURAKOT #1. Engot. :biglaugh:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:25 pm 
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:





si doña imbetard masyadong matatakutin talaga natrauma na ang hukluban hihihihihihih :bounce1:



......................spammer daw :biglaugh:





o, say hi to Fr. Bernas na lang :lol:


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at ipaliwanag mo nga ulit sa kanya na abswelto na sila ni Santa Santita Coring, according to you, sa "Sabah claim" :bounce1:


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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:28 pm 
nag iinit na naman ang bunbunan nung tagahimud na huklubang poser :lol: :lol: :lol:





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hello again, Conrad :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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reigncourts wrote:
platinum wrote:
reigncourts wrote:
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Could, Would and Should...



:mrgreen:

Dakdak pa


Kaya "could have been" ang dakdak ng Sandigangbayan ay dahil patay na ang idol mong KURAKOT #1. Engot. :biglaugh:


:mrgreen:

"could've, would've and should've"... Adage yan meaning hypothetical, walang bisa...... engot.


Obvious ka masyado ah Sandigangbayan... Guilty maski walang trial? Obvious ah :toast:

Bumenta nanaman ke reigncourt :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
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Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:24 AM November 11, 2018

“Wherefore, premises considered,” the Fifth Division Clerk of Court read out, “this Court finds the accused guilty beyond reasonable doubt…”

Let that sink in. Imelda Marcos is guilty. Convicted. For the crime of seven counts of graft involving the salting away of some $200 million in Swiss foundations when she was a government official from 1968 to 1986, she now faces six to 11 years in prison for each of the seven cases, or a total of 77 years in detention.

Imelda Marcos is 89 years old. She’s running for governor of Ilocos Norte, so if she’s fit enough for that, she should be fit for jail time, too.

The Marcoses’ ability to wriggle out of criminal cases and escape any form of accountability would, in time, form the urtext of the Marcos propaganda project, Commandment 1 of the long-term enterprise meant to rehabilitate them in the people’s eyes, and now a central talking point of their troll militia: The Marcoses have never been convicted in court, therefore they must be innocent.

Never mind that judgments were, in fact, rendered against them in courts in Hawaii and Singapore, or that Philippine law has appropriated money from their seized estate to compensate human rights victims of martial law.

The Supreme Court, in 2003, also declared that, with the Marcoses’ total legal income from 1966 to 1986 amounting to only around $304,000, their assets worth $683 million discovered in various Swiss banks were ill-gotten. In plain language, stolen money.

There was a successful case, too, against Imelda, in 1993. The Sandiganbayan convicted her in two criminal cases arising from an anomalous lease contract with the Light Rail Transit Authority and two other entities.

But, on appeal, the Supreme Court reversed the guilty verdict in 1998. The woman did seem untouchable, invincible.

And what cosmic sense of full-circle irony that these cases, whose successful prosecution now officially stamps Imelda as a criminal, had to do with the “William Saunders” and “Jane Ryan” accounts.

These were among the foundational deposits of the Marcos ill-gotten wealth — two of the earliest Swiss accounts used to stash their hoard abroad.

But for now, not only is the flamboyant, once all-powerful first lady forced to walk around as a convict of a court of law; the Sandiganbayan has also ordered her arrest, an explanation within 30 days for her absence during her sentencing, and her perpetual disqualification from office (though she’s still allowed to run pending her appeal).

When the warrant comes out, it would be interesting to see how fast the police and the powers that be would implement the order — the way they did for, say, Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV.

And if mischievous gnomes in the Palace might be tempted to whisper the word “pardon” in the President’s ear this early, they ought to be forewarned: Having themselves set the precedent, any pardon of Imelda Marcos could then, down the line, also be declared “void ab initio.”

What’s sauce for the goose should be sauce for the Iron Butterfly.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: BBM for president
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:26 pm 
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Nag iiyakan na sa social media ang mga Dilawan , dahil sa pardon ni lolo Digong kay imelda,
Masyadong premature ang iyakan,

Hinde kailangan ang pardon dahil sa SC palang tiyak ma pawalang sala si meldy..iyak pa more... :lol:

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don robert wrote:

yan problema sa inyo mga loyalista eh, di kayo marunong magbasa at intindihin yung binabasa nyo. me sinabi ba dun sa post ko na mas matimbang si Erap kesa sa SC? :lol:

me nag cheer naman agad. yung spammer. nag i-spam pag talo na sa diskusyun. natalo pa lalo nung ayaw na magpost nung mahahabang spam. loser. :lol:

but it's a good thing, mister tight pants you mentioned about this particular ruling of the SC, wherein it mentions hindi naman daw pumirma si Imelda gurang.
kasi sa recent conviction ni Imelda gurang, merong evidence wherein she actually signed off as Jane Ryan sa Swiss account.

it is also fair to mention that of the 13 SC justices that voted, only 8 said the evidence against Imelda gurang was not strong enough. merong 5 SC justices disagreed and said the evidence was sufficient.

hindi UNANIMOUS ang botohan. which means nanalo lang si Imelda gurang on numbers. ang inosente, UNANIMOUS yan dapat.

but still, hindi lahat na kaso malulusutan ni Imelda gurang. kaya panay offer sila ng compromise sa gobyerno na maghatian na lang ng pera na nilustay nila sa kaban ng bayan.

which i highlighted na dati pa nag ooffer itong pamilyang Marcos, hindi lang sa panahon ni Duterte.

kung talagang pera nila yan, ba't sila nag ooffer na isauli ang bahagi nito?

magnanakaw nga kasi. ayun, guilty na naman sa Sandigan bayan!!!

:lol:


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Ano yan selective? Ginawang alas ng dingba ang sinabi ni Plunderer (ayan o kinowt mo).
don robert wrote:

President Joseph Estrada said the decision would not affect efforts to recover the Marcoses' wealth. He said talks had resumed with the family on dividing the money with the Government.


Kaya ko sinabi walang bisa nanaman yung reply mo kasi a paragraph above it says walang nakaw (Supreme Court).

platinum wrote:

The Supreme Court said today that Mrs. Marcos did not personally sign the lease and that prosecutors did not prove that the rates were ''grossly and manifestly disadvantageous'' to the Government.

The ruling said the court that convicted Mrs. Marcos had violated due process, with unscheduled and informal discussions outside its offices.



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mr. tight pants, yung na quote ko na nabanggit si Erap, tingnan mo yung naka underline kasi yung opinion ko after ng quote na ito is about "offer" na ibalik ang pera ng mga Marcoses.
na panahon pa lang ni Erap (or way back sa time ni Cory) na me offer na ibalik ang pera. na sabi ko, kung walang ninakaw, ba't parating me offer na ibalik ang pera, from the Marcoses?

mahina ka lang talaga, gets ko na yan, mister tight pants. don't worry, i am here to explain, re-explain and re-explain hanggat makuha mo. kasi given na mabagal mga tulad mong umintinde.

tatak Marcos loyalista eh. we can't expect any better from your likes.


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mr. tight pants, yung na quote ko na nabanggit si Erap, tingnan mo yung naka underline kasi yung opinion ko after ng quote na ito is about "offer" na ibalik ang pera ng mga Marcoses.
na panahon pa lang ni Erap (or way back sa time ni Cory) na me offer na ibalik ang pera. na sabi ko, kung walang ninakaw, ba't parating me offer na ibalik ang pera, from the Marcoses?

mahina ka lang talaga, gets ko na yan, mister tight pants. don't worry, i am here to explain, re-explain and re-explain hanggat makuha mo. kasi given na mabagal mga tulad mong umintinde.

tatak Marcos loyalista eh. we can't expect any better from your likes.



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Para wala na ma simpleh... Erap o Supreme Court? Sabi ni Erap "Meron", sabi ng Supreme Court "Wala". Kanino ka nakinig?










O nga pala, keh erap :lol:

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Eto nalang Emanuel, ah esteh Roberta. Para umikli na... Kailan nag "offer" ang MArcos? Meh nalaman ka pang panahon ni Cory...

Itong taon lang sabi ni VP BBM na walang nanyaring ganyan.

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