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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:45 pm 
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Gamby Sucaldito wrote:
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nang magsabog ng kabobohan ang diyos, nagrarally noon ang mag loyalista, nasa kalsada silang lahat



:lol: :lol: :lol:

may dala dalang timba at planggana hahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:55 pm 
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gambol wrote:
Gamby Sucaldito wrote:
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nang magsabog ng kabobohan ang diyos, nagrarally noon ang mag loyalista, nasa kalsada silang lahat



:lol: :lol: :lol:

may dala dalang timba at planggana hahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:



malalaki ba talaga iyong sukat ang palanggana at timba sa amerika? :)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:20 am 
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Emmanuel53 wrote:
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Oh really where is the damn money? dami pala ginawa itong Aquino. Where is this so called improvements for the people? Bakit madami mahirap? kamain ng food natitira sa basura ng restaurant. Bakit walang ginawa para sa Mindanao o visaya lagi binohos pera sa Maynila.Why? Manila is a shyt hole. Come on tell us what Aquino has done.Wala corruption sa Aquino administration whatever.So life now is so much better than when Marcos was around? GTFO here.


Madaming mahirap dahil you cannot rebuild the country in 6 years. How long was Marcos in power? Google the number of classrooms and roads that the Aquino government built. How long does it take to construct thousands of kilometers of roads? When those roads are built how long do you build factories around them? When you build classrooms how long before the beneficiaries graduate from school? Are the social services only for Manila or is it for the whole country? Is the automatic Philhealth coverage for indigent seniors only in Manila? Are the free maintenance hypertensive and diabetic medicines only for Luzon or for the whole country? Most of the time common sense is not so common.



.... but Marcos has been out for a while already. Di ga? :biglaugh:
Like 3 decades ago and rebuilding started that time not 6 years ago.

Now, if you also consider GMA's term as something to rebuild after... you're just copying PNoy on his "boy sisi" act. GMA created strong economic foundations at the expense of her popularity. PNoy got the most of it.

Google the roads? Google gives you the numbers based on the calculation of the government. Have you tried checking how long really were new roads in the list and how long were solely done by the government?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:24 am 
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sinalo talga lahat :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:11 am 
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robwisdom wrote:
i support PRRD but i cant stand these bugok supporters. They think if you disagree with Martial Law and Marcos you belong to dilawan. Is Cayetano and Koko belongs to dilawan? Marcos and Martial Law is not about dilawan vs pula anymore. It is about Pilipino people and its history. Sometimes nakakahiya ng maging supporter ni digong because of these people.


Their dads were :mrgreen:

Pimentel already agreed to it. That won't happen to Alan, BBM made him look like the fool that he is

You're right... Di naman kontra libing panay yellow lang.







95% maybe? :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:28 am 
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pwede na uli pag untugin ung dalawa :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:07 pm 
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gambol wrote:
pwede na uli pag untugin ung dalawa :biglaugh:




yung palanggana ba at timba ahihi :biglaugh:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:09 pm 
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zorann wrote:
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You bring it to court, ok may napatunayan ba sa korte tungkol sa Marcos Ill-gotten wealth hanggang ngayon wala. Mag research ka dong !

Stupid millennial. Ikaw nga ang mag-research!



This article is directly from the Swiss Federal Department of Justice and Police website:
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Philippines given access to over USD 683 million

Confiscation ruling closes Marcos case

Press Release, FOJ, 05.08.2003

Zurich/Bern, 5 August 2003. Satisfaction with the positive conclusion of the Marcos case was expressed by the Swiss and Phillippine authorities at a meeting in Zurich on Tuesday. Following the confiscation ruling of the Supreme Court in Manila, the Phillippines may now dispose of the Marcos assets that were deposited in a frozen account in 1998 and have since grown to approximately USD 683 million. The only matter still outstanding is the issue of assets worth USD 10 million in the names of those associated with the Marcos regime.

The Marcos case began in 1986 when the Federal Council ordered bank accounts to be frozen. In 1990, the Swiss Federal Supreme Court approved the handover to the Phillippines of bank documents relating to the Marcos family, but ruled that the actual return of assets would be conditional upon a final and absolute judgment by a Phillippine court. In 1997, the Court established that the majority of the Marcos foundation assets were of criminal origin and permitted their transfer to a escrow account in Manila, even though no Phillippine court ruling had yet been issued.

The Swiss Federal Supreme Court set two conditions for this advance transfer, however. The Phillippines had to provide an assurance that the confiscation or repayment of the assets in question would be handled through judicial proceedings that complied with the principles of the International Civil and Political Rights Pact, and the Phillippine government also had to undertake to brief the Swiss authorities regularly on the judicial confiscation and repayment proceedings, as well as on the precautions and procedures pertaining to compensation for victims of violations of human rights under the Marcos regime.

No further decision required from Swiss authorities

Once the Federal Office of Justice (at the time: the Federal Office of Police Matters) had declared the guarantee given by the Phillippines to be satisfactory and the Swiss Federal Supreme Court had dismissed appeals against the ruling, the assets could be transferred in 1998 to a escrow account with the Phillippine National Bank in Manila. Following the confiscation ruling of the Phillippine Supreme Court on 15 July 2003, which confirmed the view of the Swiss Federal Supreme Court with regard to the criminal origin of the monies seized, the Phillippine government may now dispose of the assets, worth some USD 683 million. No further decisions are due on the part of the Swiss authorities. The Phillippine parliament is currently debating legislation under which the Marcos assets would be used for land reform and to compensate the victims of human rights violations.

USD 10 million still frozen

On Tuesday, representatives of the Office of the District Attorney IV of Canton of Zurich, the Federal Office of Justice, and the Phillippine Presidential Commission on Good Government (PCGG) met in Zurich to discuss the outstanding legal assistance proceedings against others involved in the Marcos case, i.e. former ministers and other individuals. In 2000, bank documents were handed over to the Phillippines and a portion of the frozen assets (USD 5.5 million) transferred as an advance payment. The Office of the District Attorney IV for Canton of Zurich subsequently released assets worth approximately USD 30 million because the Phillippine authorities were unable to provide evidence that they were still pursuing criminal proceedings against the individuals concerned. Around USD 10 million remain frozen in Switzerland. The Phillippine judicial authorities will therefore have to issue a ruling on the confiscation of USD 15.5 million in the names of persons associated with the Marcos case.



Yan kasi ang hirap kung masyadong selective ang aawitin.




zorann wrote:
The Marcos case began in 1986 when the Federal Council ordered bank accounts to be frozen. In 1990, the Swiss Federal Supreme Court approved the handover to the Phillippines of bank documents relating to the Marcos family, but ruled that the actual return of assets would be conditional upon a final and absolute judgment by a Phillippine court. In 1997, the Court established that the majority of the Marcos foundation assets were of criminal origin and permitted their transfer to a escrow account in Manila, even though no Phillippine court ruling had yet been issued

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:10 pm 
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MR.RED wrote:
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pwede na uli pag untugin ung dalawa :biglaugh:




yung palanggana ba at timba ahihi :biglaugh:

drum tingin ko

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:03 pm 
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gambol wrote:
MR.RED wrote:
gambol wrote:
pwede na uli pag untugin ung dalawa :biglaugh:




yung palanggana ba at timba ahihi :biglaugh:

drum tingin ko

:lol:

DAM bro..gumawa sila ng DAM :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:04 pm 
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langya ka Gamby

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:26 pm 
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Pinoy758 wrote:
Emmanuel53 wrote:
Numero uno wrote:
Oh really where is the damn money? dami pala ginawa itong Aquino. Where is this so called improvements for the people? Bakit madami mahirap? kamain ng food natitira sa basura ng restaurant. Bakit walang ginawa para sa Mindanao o visaya lagi binohos pera sa Maynila.Why? Manila is a shyt hole. Come on tell us what Aquino has done.Wala corruption sa Aquino administration whatever.So life now is so much better than when Marcos was around? GTFO here.


Madaming mahirap dahil you cannot rebuild the country in 6 years. How long was Marcos in power? Google the number of classrooms and roads that the Aquino government built. How long does it take to construct thousands of kilometers of roads? When those roads are built how long do you build factories around them? When you build classrooms how long before the beneficiaries graduate from school? Are the social services only for Manila or is it for the whole country? Is the automatic Philhealth coverage for indigent seniors only in Manila? Are the free maintenance hypertensive and diabetic medicines only for Luzon or for the whole country? Most of the time common sense is not so common.



.... but Marcos has been out for a while already. Di ga? :biglaugh:
Like 3 decades ago and rebuilding started that time not 6 years ago.

Now, if you also consider GMA's term as something to rebuild after... you're just copying PNoy on his "boy sisi" act. GMA created strong economic foundations at the expense of her popularity. PNoy got the most of it.

Google the roads? Google gives you the numbers based on the calculation of the government. Have you tried checking how long really were new roads in the list and how long were solely done by the government?


Sure he is, but he created the foundations of cryonism and institutionalized corruption. He reigned for the better part of two decades. It is easier to destroy than to rebuild. You can destroy a mansion in days, but it will take months even years to rebuild it. How long does it take to build a sand castle, but it can be deconstructed in the blink of an eye. From second to Japan before he assumed office the Philippines became the basket case of Asia at the time he left. How long did it take for Lee Kuan Yew to make Singapore what it is today, and compared to the Philippines, Singapore is a small island state?
Arroyo was tainted with corruption, remember the NBN ZTE deal and the present WPS controversy stemmed from an earlier joint marine exploration deal with China and Vietnam which was forged during Arroyo's trip to China, remember. The budget deficit soared during Arroyo's time, so how do you implement programs if you don't have sufficient funding for them?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:52 am 
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Emmanuel53 wrote:

Sure he is, but he created the foundations of cryonism and institutionalized corruption. He reigned for the better part of two decades. It is easier to destroy than to rebuild. You can destroy a mansion in days, but it will take months even years to rebuild it. How long does it take to build a sand castle, but it can be deconstructed in the blink of an eye. From second to Japan before he assumed office the Philippines became the basket case of Asia at the time he left. How long did it take for Lee Kuan Yew to make Singapore what it is today, and compared to the Philippines, Singapore is a small island state?
Arroyo was tainted with corruption, remember the NBN ZTE deal and the present WPS controversy stemmed from an earlier joint marine exploration deal with China and Vietnam which was forged during Arroyo's trip to China, remember. The budget deficit soared during Arroyo's time, so how do you implement programs if you don't have sufficient funding for them?



The annual national budgets minus the amount FM allegedly put to his pockets and the cost of projects his administration has put up (which most of it are still used to this date)... makes it difficult to logically believe to the allegations of institutionalized corruption. Have you made any rough estimate at all and checked if the published corrupted figures are mathematically feasible?

On Arroyo, I don't think your statement above is entirely true. Remember, the first few years of Aquino being criticized of not spending too much? With a some surplus but no visible infra improvement? If not, remember again. :biglaugh:


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Dumale na naman si antats ng walang kalatoy latoy hahahaha :lol: :lol:


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