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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:33 am 
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supreme court nga na kokontrol ang media pa kaya. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:29 pm 
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Gamby Sucaldito wrote:
Dumale na naman si antats ng walang kalatoy latoy hahahaha :lol: :lol:

mismo Gamby, mismo...ang haba wala namang laman

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:56 pm 
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gambol wrote:
Gamby Sucaldito wrote:
Dumale na naman si antats ng walang kalatoy latoy hahahaha :lol: :lol:

mismo Gamby, mismo...ang haba wala namang laman

:biglaugh:

Puro second voice lang ang bobo. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:03 pm 
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Hihihihi. ...galit na galit n naman :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:04 pm 
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the yellow gang control the media, the economy and everything in the Philippines.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:35 pm 
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gambol wrote:
Hihihihi. ...galit na galit n naman :biglaugh:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:53 pm 
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Gamby Sucaldito wrote:
gambol wrote:
Hihihihi. ...galit na galit n naman :biglaugh:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Follow up yung 1st voice. Mod pakicheck nga at malamang isang tao lang tong dalawang account na to. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:55 pm 
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Gamby Sucaldito wrote:
gambol wrote:
Hihihihi. ...galit na galit n naman :biglaugh:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

hihihihi :biglaugh:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:06 pm 
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sino senyo ang tenor at sino ang bass :shock: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:54 pm 
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Rodrigo Roxas III wrote:
sino senyo ang tenor at sino ang bass :shock: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:08 pm 
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JABEZJ wrote:
Rodrigo Roxas III wrote:
sino senyo ang tenor at sino ang bass :shock: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:03 pm 
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Sure he is, but he created the foundations of cryonism and institutionalized corruption. He reigned for the better part of two decades. It is easier to destroy than to rebuild. You can destroy a mansion in days, but it will take months even years to rebuild it. How long does it take to build a sand castle, but it can be deconstructed in the blink of an eye. From second to Japan before he assumed office the Philippines became the basket case of Asia at the time he left. How long did it take for Lee Kuan Yew to make Singapore what it is today, and compared to the Philippines, Singapore is a small island state?
Arroyo was tainted with corruption, remember the NBN ZTE deal and the present WPS controversy stemmed from an earlier joint marine exploration deal with China and Vietnam which was forged during Arroyo's trip to China, remember. The budget deficit soared during Arroyo's time, so how do you implement programs if you don't have sufficient funding for them?



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The annual national budgets minus the amount FM allegedly put to his pockets and the cost of projects his administration has put up (which most of it are still used to this date)... makes it difficult to logically believe to the allegations of institutionalized corruption. Have you made any rough estimate at all and checked if the published corrupted figures are mathematically feasible?

On Arroyo, I don't think your statement above is entirely true. Remember, the first few years of Aquino being criticized of not spending too much? With a some surplus but no visible infra improvement? If not, remember again. :biglaugh:

Most of the projects were awarded to Cuenca and Disini, the mere fact that the country's foreign debt ballooned from less than one billion dollars to 28 billion dollars , and mired the Phillipines in debt without concomitant economic growth , thus relegating it from second in Japan to the basket case of Asia, is testament to this fact. The argument that most of his projects are still being used today is bankrupt like the Philippines when Marcos left it. Lee Kuan Yew recounted that Roberto Ongpin was sent to borrow $300 - $500 million dollars for interest payments alone. Of course he refused saying - "We will never see the money back". When Aquino assumed the government there was a huge budget deficit - will you go on a spending spree if there was one?
The problem with going all out on infrastructure projects during Aquino's time was corruption at the lower levels. There were various government websites including one on Yolanda donations , a foreign aid transparency hub, a DBM website which details DAP projects and beneficiaries, specifics included area and type of projects, all open to the public. Yet it is some of this public who continually exhibit ignorance by gobbling up and believing disinformation on the internet and social media, instead of pro actively checking details on the website and reporting anomalies. The DBM website encourages the citizenry to post comments and even upload videos. This is far better than Duterte's hotline because from what i've heard it's difficult to get thru and many of the calls are prank ones. The website actually allows the previous government to vet concerns thus making it easier to establish legitimacy.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... ficit-goal This was the goal before spending, and it was achieved.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:37 am 
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Gamby Sucaldito wrote:
gambol wrote:
Hihihihi. ...galit na galit n naman :biglaugh:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Follow up yung 1st voice. Mod pakicheck nga at malamang isang tao lang tong dalawang account na to. :D

Magkakampi lang kayo last year a. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:45 am 
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I should know. Negros Occidental then was on the brink of being their province and we have to work hard exposing our lives to assassination both from the left and the military back then. we have to educate the people what is the real situation. People in the haciendas were indoctrinated only to die in ambushes and encounters. A classmate of mine was a leader of the left until she went back into the fold of the law. Remember Operation Thunderbolt. We were working with workers in Himamaylan when a booming sound was heard. I asked, was it a thunder? a resident replied, the scout rangers have spotted something in the mountain, it was a howitzer, pointing to me the smoke pillar on the mountainside.

the Aquino administration failed to deliver what is expected of them. worst is their blame game. P'Noy did nothing but ran after GMA until his last year in office it was still GMA's fault why many Filipinos are poor. What did he do to uplift them? Where are the Yolanda funds? How much was given to the victims? The relocation sites are almost empty because they were distributed after almost 2 years after the calamity when the victims have returned to the villages destroyed because they cannot live in the area under construction. One relocation site in Iloilo has no water system and residents have to line at night just to fetch water at a dugwell. And yet when the people from Manila went there to inspect their projects they were shamed in one RDC meeting. One mayor said that his a team went to his office to inspect a water project which in their report is almost complete. The mayor was outraged since he said not even a single bag or cement nor a pebble of sand and gravel were delivered to his town. I was there just smiling on the sideline. Sop can we be proud of the yellow? Me, nah, i just did what I can do for the good of our constituents...[/quote]

Well, Panot was not accused of being a great president. He was a failure.
The Yolanda funds were probably stolen by Roxas and Romualdez .[/quote]

can these "saints" do something this magnitude without the "blessing" of their "lord"?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:14 am 
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I guess these kids do not know what really happened in the provinces during 70s and 80s. They only know the was told about the stories on the EDSA timeline and the Negros stories blaming only the government to it.

They haven't seen how brutal these NPAs, how barbaric their ways were (can't blame much on the PCs on returning the favor, ika nga, tao laming).... and how fake the numbers about the rebels. They claimed there was only about 1000 NPAs during the start of Marcos, but there were other rebel groups... just not consolidated. Engg..

If you're in doubt, go get to your place, find about 10 oldies from different areas possibly then ask about the 70s and 80s. Too much of these more Chinese than Filipino yellows.[/quote]

Err, I was around that time already.
I was around during the agaw-baril operandi by the NPA's in the city.
Saw a mini-bus being washed out of blood from an assassinated alleged informant .

There are more NPA's now than in 1972. A lot more .
Should Duterte declare martial law because of that ?
30,000+ in the late 80's and 90's ( according to someone here ) ? Ramos should have declared martial law then.
Not one president did that and stayed in power for 20+ years outside of marcos.[/quote]

I should have known. Macaw Gallardo was the brother of our boss then though they are on different sides. Our boss would panic every time Macaw gets wounded. When re returned to the fold of the law his children were so afraid of choppers they would hide on the bushes on the gated grounds of their grand parents each time a chopper pass by. They belong to the elites of Negros. They have a private hospital where Macaw is treated in the basement. Most of the haciendas in the province are either infiltrated or influenced by the rebel movement. Their sympathizers even double. Didn't Luis Jalandoni came from Negros too with numerous haciendas on their clan? his wife was also a nun. The SALVATORRE group? Salvacion Torre. another prominent clan.

Ramos is no boo-boo to declare another martial law since he knows its unpopular, lest he will just preempt his vacation.

The poverty in Negros started when in the early 70's Imelda attended one special occasion wearing of course his fancied diamonds. A sugar matron arrived, crossed armed, , know also for a knack on jewelry, with nothing on but a plain gown. Upon nearing Imelda, she simply opened her arms to reveal all sorts of diamonds on her evening gown. This angered Imelda so much that she hated the sugar industry matrons. That's when they colluded with Benedicto to come up with regulating the sugar industry. in the late 70's in another occasion Imelda came and blurted loudly "so, are there still rich hacienderos in Negros"? That is how wicked Imelda is. have you heard of the story when Ninoy was assassinated, it was rumored that Marcos slapped her.


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