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Is Marcos a HERO?
NO 74%  74%  [ 34 ]
YES 26%  26%  [ 12 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:59 am 
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Numero uno wrote:
Ok copy and paste queen i got one for you..

http://www.getrealphilippines.com/blog/ ... cos-years/


In just 6 years, Noynoy Aquino’s record of failure is now worse than all of the Marcos years.

Filipinos who can’t stop talking about the “horrors” of the Martial Law years under the late former President Ferdinand Marcos are starting to come across as hopeless and desperate for attention. While the atrocities against the victims should be condemned, their cases were already brought to court and won compensation. It is now time to move on to atrocities happening at present times.


Filipinos today are being lulled into thinking that the country is safe in the hands of President Benigno Simeon Aquino and his allies – members of the oligarchy. In fact, as early as 1986, after the late former President Cory Aquino took over from Marcos, Philippine mainstream media and other showbiz personalities allied with her government created the illusion that the country is better off under the Aquinos. The Filipino people have been lied to for over 30 years.

You actually posted that ? Weak.
GMA, illegally detained ?
Ok, let's say she was .
How many political prisoners were tortured ? How many were shot at the airport ?
Any activist raped and tortured ?
People call Kris STD Kris or p#ta all the time and the none were tortured .
The one who questioned Imee's position ? Pfft!
Panot was a horrible president but his six years were not worse than macoy's last 6 years.
How much did the peso devalue from 1979 to 1985 ? Debt to GDP rate .
Compare those to Panot's six years .
Traffic in Manila got really bad . And how can you foretell marcos would have done better with the population and number of cars in the MM area now ?
Marcos sure did not slow down the provincial exodus to Manila during his time .

And one thing marcos did not do that Cory and PNoy did was STEP DOWN when their terms were up.


Makikisali lang po konti :biglaugh:
On GMA, if she was not released thru court order after PNoy's term, maybe she was detained correctly. But nah...
Political prisoners, tortured, killed, missing, etc? Let's assume those were all true. The political climate then was different. External influence due to cold war also made it worst.
You wouldn't want to compare devaluation during that time as well since we all know, that was caused by US policy changes thru their controlled entities like world bank. PNoy's time devaluation was both a case of economic weakness and strategy. Sometimes, you purposely devalue your money to earn more, just like what China is constantly doing.

On traffic, if you've seen the original masterplan for infra during Marcos time and was only reviewed by GMA admin, there were concrete items on how to deal with future influx of people to MM. Things like increasing lines for the LRT, completing north and south Luzon expressways, etc. It's not madam auring though.

Well, I agree. He was thrown out instead of stepping down
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:05 am 
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Numero uno wrote:
Well if you go against the man Marcos you get checked home boy! the man doesn't tolerate rebels and commie *******. So ya, i hope they learned their lessons and forgive him.

And you Sir need to forgive him if you can't then so be it. But Marcos is long gone. We should learn to let go..Didn't jesus said love your neighbor and forgive those who sin against us.

There you go.... I wasn't been around back then so who gives a F. It's not like the holocaust not even close to the atrocities of the holocaust.OA itong mga kulay dilaw eh.


So. you weren't around back then? That explains your revisionist view of Philippine history. Knowing history is important so that the people will make sure that history won't repeat itself. You ask to forgive, but only the family members of the victims of Marcos can forgive. Why don't you ask them to forgive? Bring up Jesus too..lol


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:42 am 
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What did Marcos do to all you scumbags? Based on the paste and post queen. He imprisoned 70 000, tortured 34 000 and killed a whopping 3000. If you had family members there then OK. But let's move on.None of us was effected. The Dilaw teams brain washing in the class rooms, books and media are stronger than I thought.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:47 am 
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Worst Presidents

1. NoyNoy Aquino
2. Erap
3. Cory Aquino

Most corrupt:

1. Marcos
2. GMA
3. Erap

Best President: Rody Duterte

Why don't we just cremate FM's body and put it on Imelda's home. End of story.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:56 am 
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destroyer_pacman_champ wrote:
Worst Presidents

1. NoyNoy Aquino
2. Erap
3. Cory Aquino

Most corrupt:

1. Marcos
2. GMA
3. Erap

Best President: Rody Duterte

Why don't we just cremate FM's body and put it on Imelda's home. End of story.

Isaboy yung abo sa bagong sementong kalsada.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:17 am 
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Ania mit tin... nag ado ti amok..


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:51 am 
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Makikisali lang po konti :biglaugh:
On GMA, if she was not released thru court order after PNoy's term, maybe she was detained correctly. But nah...
Political prisoners, tortured, killed, missing, etc? Let's assume those were all true. The political climate then was different. External influence due to cold war also made it worst.
You wouldn't want to compare devaluation during that time as well since we all know, that was caused by US policy changes thru their controlled entities like world bank. PNoy's time devaluation was both a case of economic weakness and strategy. Sometimes, you purposely devalue your money to earn more, just like what China is constantly doing.

On traffic, if you've seen the original masterplan for infra during Marcos time and was only reviewed by GMA admin, there were concrete items on how to deal with future influx of people to MM. Things like increasing lines for the LRT, completing north and south Luzon expressways, etc. It's not madam auring though.

Well, I agree. He was thrown out instead of stepping down
:lol:

Sorry, torture and murders of political prisoners are all true during macoy's time .
Ninoy getting shot at the airport after getting picked up by macoy's men and macoy blaming the commies is living proof of that .
Hell, macoy had Roger Roxas , the Yamashita treasure finder tortured. His eyes are still twitching to this day if he's alive .

Peso devaluation was due to macoy driving the economy with debt because he and his cronies devastated the local production. And Imelda using the central bank as her piggy bank. So bad the head had a heart attack. Meldy fleeced the gold reserve and that devastated the peso. The devaluation was so bad, the peso became a joke money .

Ok, let's even assume macoy had a master plan for the MM traffic and infra.
The country was still broke from all of his debts .
By 1983, the country was in near bankruptcy .
Macoy and Meldy spent money like the Philippines was some super power .
They absolutely disgusted Lee Kuan Yew.

Macoy should have stepped down in 1980 and let Virata run for presidency.
His last 6 years were a disaster.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:55 am 
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Numero uno wrote:
What did Marcos do to all you scumbags? Based on the paste and post queen. He imprisoned 70 000, tortured 34 000 and killed a whopping 3000. If you had family members there then OK. But let's move on.None of us was effected. The Dilaw teams brain washing in the class rooms, books and media are stronger than I thought.

Actually, my uncle lost millions because of macoy and benidicto's "sugar subsidy" program.

Why do you keep defending the dikkhead dictator ?
Kamag-anak mo ba sya ?

Oh yeah, we're still bitter about Voltez V getting pulled off the air b/c it showed rebellion .
And freaking 4 years of CAT and ROTC.

Let's not forget, Magsaysay had the second most honest govt in Asia . By the time macoy was done, the govt became sh !t.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:16 am 
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JoeyInCali wrote:
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Makikisali lang po konti :biglaugh:
On GMA, if she was not released thru court order after PNoy's term, maybe she was detained correctly. But nah...
Political prisoners, tortured, killed, missing, etc? Let's assume those were all true. The political climate then was different. External influence due to cold war also made it worst.
You wouldn't want to compare devaluation during that time as well since we all know, that was caused by US policy changes thru their controlled entities like world bank. PNoy's time devaluation was both a case of economic weakness and strategy. Sometimes, you purposely devalue your money to earn more, just like what China is constantly doing.

On traffic, if you've seen the original masterplan for infra during Marcos time and was only reviewed by GMA admin, there were concrete items on how to deal with future influx of people to MM. Things like increasing lines for the LRT, completing north and south Luzon expressways, etc. It's not madam auring though.

Well, I agree. He was thrown out instead of stepping down
:lol:

Sorry, torture and murders of political prisoners are all true during macoy's time .
Ninoy getting shot at the airport after getting picked up by macoy's men and macoy blaming the commies is living proof of that .
Hell, macoy had Roger Roxas , the Yamashita treasure finder tortured. His eyes are still twitching to this day if he's alive .

Peso devaluation was due to macoy driving the economy with debt because he and his cronies devastated the local production. And Imelda using the central bank as her piggy bank. So bad the head had a heart attack. Meldy fleeced the gold reserve and that devastated the peso. The devaluation was so bad, the peso became a joke money .

Ok, let's even assume macoy had a master plan for the MM traffic and infra.
The country was still broke from all of his debts .
By 1983, the country was in near bankruptcy .
Macoy and Meldy spent money like the Philippines was some super power .
They absolutely disgusted Lee Kuan Yew.

Macoy should have stepped down in 1980 and let Virata run for presidency.
His last 6 years were a disaster.



And we know that 2 Aquinos admins had passed and we are still uncertain on what really happened to the head of the family. This despite PNoy's pronouncement the the power of the presidency is very vast that it could look at almost everything. Why not on Ninoy's case?

Unless you can prove otherwise, it was the US/world bank policies that have drowned the economies of it's allies. There were good amount of infra projects at FM time leading to good amount of loans too. But many of these high stake projects like the BNPP, didn't get into fruition, hence no ROI, how would expect those loans to be after? There was not any continuity of the FM projects, be it good or bad, mostly discontinued by Cory.

Prior to FM's downfall, the economic issues were largely affected by the world market shakedown. After his downfall, it's affected more by politics.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:27 am 
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Now, your President Dingdong wants Marcos to be buried as a hero.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:28 am 
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And we know that 2 Aquinos admins had passed and we are still uncertain on what really happened to the head of the family. This despite PNoy's pronouncement the the power of the presidency is very vast that it could look at almost everything. Why not on Ninoy's case?

Unless you can prove otherwise, it was the US/world bank policies that have drowned the economies of it's allies. There were good amount of infra projects at FM time leading to good amount of loans too. But many of these high stake projects like the BNPP, didn't get into fruition, hence no ROI, how would expect those loans to be after? There was not any continuity of the FM projects, be it good or bad, mostly discontinued by Cory.

Prior to FM's downfall, the economic issues were largely affected by the world market shakedown. After his downfall, it's affected more by politics.

You're still uncertain what happened to Ninoy?
Let's make it simple. Imelda flew to Boston and told Ninoy " We can't guarantee your safety."
Err, what does that mean ?
Ninoy gets picked up by the 5 Blind Mice . All handpicked by Ver .
Ninoy gets shot at point blank range . MARCOS BLAMED the COMMUNISTS on radio that day.
Marcos was in a come according to some people. Wakes up the next day and holds a presscon.
Still blaming the communists. OK, why ? Still maintained Galman shot Ninoy. Yeah, sure .
Appoints the Agrava Commission . They concluded Ver, AVSECOM head and the 5 Blind Mice killed Ninoy.
Marcos releases them all and for years after that, NOBODY was arrested for Ninoy's murder.
Nobody behind Galman.

The dictator's main rival was murdered . Who's in charge ? Pfft!

Well, if you want to foresee where the economy was headed in the mid-80's, you can just look at macoy's track record .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_ ... %80%931986)
It wasn't looking good .
Why would the miners and planters produce if freaking macoy's cronies were the ones raking it in ?
Stupid Marcos was even asked why the mining industries were tanking . His answer was, well some of the minerals are being mined and sold below cost.
Yeah, freaking genius. That was because his cronies bought them at below world market price and monopolized exportation.
Happened to my uncle who own a sugar plant in Negros. He flat out said he did not need these fkkrs "sugar subsidy " if he could export them himself.

And the free enterprise now proves it . GMA and PNoy's annual growth rate have beat most of the other neighboring countries .
And Duterte is on track to hit better than 8% a year .


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Now, your President Dingdong wants Marcos to be buried as a hero.

Sure. Is he infallible ?
Do I agree with BBL ? No.

The word is, Imelda paid the INC to vote for BBM. And they bundled in Digong . Imelda is a digong nuthugger.
Digong's own mother participated in Yellow Fridays. Hated Marcos.


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destroyer_pacman_champ wrote:
Worst Presidents

1. NoyNoy Aquino
2. Erap
3. Cory Aquino

Most corrupt:

1. Marcos
2. GMA
3. Erap

Best President: Rody Duterte

Why don't we just cremate FM's body and put it on Imelda's home. End of story.


Two months pa lang sa pwesto best president na agad si Duterte?

Halatang halata ang kamangmangan mo.


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Two months pa lang sa pwesto best president na agad si Duterte?

Halatang halata ang kamangmangan mo.

Quezon and Magsaysay were the best imo.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:43 am 
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SOLA wrote:
destroyer_pacman_champ wrote:
Worst Presidents

1. NoyNoy Aquino
2. Erap
3. Cory Aquino

Most corrupt:

1. Marcos
2. GMA
3. Erap

Best President: Rody Duterte

Why don't we just cremate FM's body and put it on Imelda's home. End of story.


Two months pa lang sa pwesto best president na agad si Duterte?

Halatang halata ang kamangmangan mo.


well im speculating but the way things are going, i bet he will be the best president of philippines ever had. Fact is duterte has a done a lot more in 2 months compared to last two years of abnoys presidency.


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