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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:51 pm 
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Yung pabor sa dingbasya

Eh di magpaturok kayo

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bwahahahaha dobol meaning :lol: :lol:

magpapaturok pala kayo ha......go ahead do it :lol:

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I think I agree with jabezj here... maaari ding masyadong mabait itong si Pnoy kaya pati sya pinapaikot ng mga bata nya.


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ordep_19 wrote:
I think I agree with jabezj here... maaari ding masyadong mabait itong si Pnoy kaya pati sya pinapaikot ng mga bata nya.


Sa hearing parang nilaglag ni PNoy si Garin...

Sabi nya he just relied on expert opinion from his advisers...which is in this issue is from Garin...

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JABEZJ wrote:
ordep_19 wrote:
I think I agree with jabezj here... maaari ding masyadong mabait itong si Pnoy kaya pati sya pinapaikot ng mga bata nya.


Sa hearing parang nilaglag ni PNoy si Garin...

Sabi nya he just relied on expert opinion from his advisers...which is in this issue is from Garin...

Di nga daw niya alam pero make it happen. :biglaugh:

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Disappointing. They're supposed to be Sanofi. A large lharma company with access to the best science available.


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walang wheel chair, walang neck brace....

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Disappointing. They're supposed to be Sanofi. A large lharma company with access to the best science available.

that actually what Science is!

no single medicine in the world without a label warning.
Kahit Biogesic me warning din!

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Admerald wrote:
genetophile wrote:
Disappointing. They're supposed to be Sanofi. A large lharma company with access to the best science available.

that actually what Science is!

no single medicine in the world without a label warning.
Kahit Biogesic me warning din!

What I mean is the supposed lack of clinical trials, or at least they missed a relevant risk initially which should have been identified early on. Science does not claim it is perfect, we know that.

Biogesic's warning has been there before the drug was marketed.

Some say bad science, some say bad politics. Or both.


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Dapat inilabas muna ng Sanofi ang warning bago pa ginamit ang mga vaccines nila...

No medicine is perfect kaya nga may warning na naka attach...

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Wala pa siya sa Phase 3 ang alam ko noong deniploy sa Pinas. It will take more years of study. Normally a drug like this will take 10 years on average to get PIII.

Kaya me risk talaga. But due to the urgency of the situation, the drug was recomended by WHO for public consumption, and I understand, gaya nga ng sabi ni Digong, given the situation, kids dying left and right, you got to take the risk.

Right now my son is under experimental allergy treatment, muntik na siyang mamatay sa allergic reaction sa peanut. And now merong experimental treatment.
Ang danger pwede lumala yong allergy niya, and it could even cause death. But we took the risk. By next month my son will be able to eat peanut as much as he want.

We took the risk, we dont have option. Kaya panatag ang loob namin ma uuwi kami sa Pinas, and we are not worried if he accidentally consume peanut.

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At kahit na yong gamot pumasa sa PIII. At na market na ng mga ilang years, hindi pa rin maiwasan na me lalabas na risk. TYLENOL for example.

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Alam mo adme, ikaw may panggastos ka sakaling may complication sa treatment ng anak mo. I understand yung allergy ng anak mo dahil madaming cases sa US niyan kahit yung pamangkin ko meron din niyan. Mas delikado yan dahil mas malaki ang chance na makakain ng peanut ang bata at tuloy tuloy yan. Paano naman yung mga mahihirap na binigyan nung bakuna? Saan sila tatakbo sakaling tamaan sila ng severe dengue dahil sa side effect nung bakuna? Yung gastos sa pagmonitor nung mga nabakunahan at yung pagaalala ng mga magulang na baka yung anak nila ang tamaan? Naisip mo ba yun?

Walang masama sa purpose ng bakuna na yan pero di mo ba nakikita yung paraan ng pagbili? Massive scale na kaagad at minadali despite madaming warning signs? Bakit hindi nila ginawang controlled lang muna at kapag proven effective talaga saka nila isama sa immunization program. Sa Singapore hindi nila isinama sa immunization program nila yan at ginawang private at under supervision ng physician. Yung sa atin? Turok na lang ng turok ang ginawa hanggang ngayon hindi pa din maubos at paexpire na yung mga bakuna.

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Admerald wrote:
Wala pa siya sa Phase 3 ang alam ko noong deniploy sa Pinas. It will take more years of study. Normally a drug like this will take 10 years on average to get PIII.

Kaya me risk talaga. But due to the urgency of the situation, the drug was recomended by WHO for public consumption, and I understand, gaya nga ng sabi ni Digong, given the situation, kids dying left and right, you got to take the risk.

Right now my son is under experimental allergy treatment, muntik na siyang mamatay sa allergic reaction sa peanut. And now merong experimental treatment.
Ang danger pwede lumala yong allergy niya, and it could even cause death. But we took the risk. By next month my son will be able to eat peanut as much as he want.

We took the risk, we dont have option. Kaya panatag ang loob namin ma uuwi kami sa Pinas, and we are not worried if he accidentally consume peanut.

Wishing for the best sa anak mo bro.


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Admerald wrote:
Wala pa siya sa Phase 3 ang alam ko noong deniploy sa Pinas. It will take more years of study. Normally a drug like this will take 10 years on average to get PIII.

Kaya me risk talaga. But due to the urgency of the situation, the drug was recomended by WHO for public consumption, and I understand, gaya nga ng sabi ni Digong, given the situation, kids dying left and right, you got to take the risk.

Right now my son is under experimental allergy treatment, muntik na siyang mamatay sa allergic reaction sa peanut. And now merong experimental treatment.
Ang danger pwede lumala yong allergy niya, and it could even cause death. But we took the risk. By next month my son will be able to eat peanut as much as he want.

We took the risk, we dont have option. Kaya panatag ang loob namin ma uuwi kami sa Pinas, and we are not worried if he accidentally consume peanut.



tama ka na naman, mang Adme.

right there, WHO mismo hindi nagtutol sa pag gamit nito. what they did was to provide guidelines on how to use the vaccine. but NEVER did the WHO say that to wait for more studies or do not use it for now, etc. NOTHING came close to it. problema iba kasi hindi nag reresearch or challenge what all these "experts" say (pro or anti current administration), rely lang sa blogs or opinion ng iba.


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