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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:10 pm 
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mga ka dds ilan na ba ang namatay, dahil nabakunahan ng dengavaxia na ito? :biglaugh:



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:20 pm 
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dyey_em-si wrote:
don robert wrote:
^^ sorry, typo. "current" admin dapat at hindi "previous".

pasensya na, tao lang, na nadadarang at natutukso rin.

PS: stay on topic lang tayo, huwag na nating isali yung ibang issues para di mawala sa diskusyun...



On topic yan DR.

Mawawala yan triple P mo kung parehas ng ugali si pnoy at du30.

Tanong mo bakit di sinisi ng current admin si pnoy nun sa procurement....eto tingin ko dyan

On face maganda intention pero yung way para mabili yan amg tanong....tama ba? Its not dahil di sya kinuwestyon ng current admin....tama ba talaga yung pag procure...

May hearing dyan so ayan nagsisimula sila magtanong na



ito, isa sahin ko para ma gets mo pinupunto ko:

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On July 18, 2016, the newly appointed DOH chief Ubial signed a resolution recommending the deferment of the program, saying the vaccines are not proven safe.

https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/inside-track/173280-health-secretary-paulyn-ubial-record-of-flip-flopping



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Dr. Francis Cruz, a former consultant to former Health Secretary Paulyn Ubial...

I told Secretary Ubial that [the red flags] were scary and it was possible that there would be a big cover-up because of the involvement of some DOH personnel,” he said, adding that the transaction involved such a big amount but DOH officials were “quiet” and “no one was telling the truth, they were all covering it up.”
Cruz said he told Ubial that the Department of Justice should investigate the red flags because the DOH was “unable to help itself.”

Among the flaws in the procurement, he said, was that it did not go through the DOH undersecretary for technical services, Dr. Vicente Belisario.
“There is no urgency to have that vaccination,” Cruz said, adding that mass immunization should have been accompanied by a “vector control intervention.”

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Ubial said it was “difficult” for her to implement the program but she had no other choice and that she had to do damage control because people in Congress had told her that if she stopped the program she could go to jail for not honoring the contract.

“I wanted to stop the next delivery in August 2016 and January 2017. I wanted to stop that to save Filipinos P2 billion,” she said.

She said she had no choice but to implement the program after the World Health Organization announced in July 2016 that the vaccine was safe and efficacious and after it was licensed by the Food and Drug Administration.

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But on September 28, 2016, she issued a Certificate of Exemption for the vaccine, Dengvaxia, so it could still be used despite her earlier flagging of certain issues.

Roque questioned this: "Ang tanong ko, may red flag ka na pala, bakit noong Secretary ka na noong September 2016, nagbigay ka pa rin ng Certificate of Exemption sa dengue vaccine? Atras abante siya."
(My question is: You already had red flags. Why did you issue a Certificate of Exemption in September 2016? You're moving back and forth.)

When confronted during a House hearing, Ubial apologized and said she had "forgotten" about the July resolution.

Ubial also defended her issuance of a certification, saying she consulted with "experts," as she had no expertise on dengue vaccines.

"I deferred to the wisdom and the decision of the experts that recommend to me the action to be taken because I admitted that I am not an expert on the dengue vaccine.

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CERTIFICATION. After initially moving to defer the dengue vaccine program, Ubial issues a certification allowing it, following the advice of experts.


https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/inside-track/173280-health-secretary-paulyn-ubial-record-of-flip-flopping


iyan, Claro M. Recto yang posts ko.

sana naman, sa awa ng pusa, gets nyo na ang issue...

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 Post subject: Re: DENGAVAXIA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:24 am 
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Klarong klaro na. Pilit mo pinapasa yung responsibilidad dun sa nagtangkang pigilan dahil sa dami ng procedural shortcuts sa procurement at pagbypass sa ilang proseso ng procurement nito pero pinayagan rin sa kalaunan dahil sa pamimilit ng mga "eksperto" at "pinayagan" na diumano ng WHO ang implementasyon nito.

Mas klaro naman ang responsibilidad ni Pnoy at ni Garin. Hindi makakakilos si Garin kung walang imprimatur ni Benigno Simeon C. Aquino lll. Minadali nila ang procurement kahit hindi naman kailangan magmadali. Pumayag silang gawing test case ang mga kabataang Pilipino na sila pa nagbayad. Ang resulta, nasayang ang bilyun bilyong pisong pondo ng bayan at nalagay sa peligro ang buhay ng daan daang libong mga kabataan.

Ayan klarong klaro din yan, :D

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 Post subject: Re: DENGAVAXIA
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the way i see it, Garin and Ubial are likely guilty of something (be it by commission or omission), and PNoy and Digong as well might be guilty to a degree as their bosses.

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the way i see it, Garin and Ubial are likely guilty of something (be it by commission or omission), and PNoy and Digong as well might be guilty to a degree as their bosses.


True...
Mga ka-DDS natin, hindi ma-discern na may mali din ang Digong admin na pina-continue pa rin kahit may duda na sila sa programa..

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studstar wrote:
the way i see it, Garin and Ubial are likely guilty of something (be it by commission or omission), and PNoy and Digong as well might be guilty to a degree as their bosses.



This is my stand sa umpisa pa lang....

Ewan bakit yung iba e si du30 lagi sinisisi

May mali sa pagbili regardless how pure your intentions are...mali pa rin

Sa execution naman ni du30 since alam na nilang wala pa magandang write up sa bakuna bakit tinuloy pa. May neglect.

Pero regardless kasalanan nilang 2 yan.


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http://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/01/23/18/bangkay-ng-binatilyong-3-beses-tinurukan-ng-dengvaxia-sinuri

Pulot lang.


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Sanofi Pasteur to shoulder cost of Dengvaxia deaths
By Paolo Romero (The Philippine Star) | Updated January 23, 2018 - 12:00am


MANILA, Philippines — French pharmaceutical giant Sanofi Pasteur will shoulder the cost of any death or “adverse event” suffered by those inoculated with its anti-dengue vaccine Dengvaxia, a top executive of the company told a Senate inquiry yesterday.

Sanofi Pasteur Asia-Pacific region head Thomas Triomphe was responding to questions from senators on whether the company was willing to pay for any deaths or illness linked to Dengvaxia.

“Should there be any case relative to vaccination, be it death or any other case, we’ll shoulder the cost if there is causality but has been demonstrated to scientific evidence,” Triomphe told the joint inquiry of the Senate Blue Ribbon and health committees.

“I’m saying that we will shoulder the cost of any death or adverse event that is causally-related to the vaccination,” he said when pressed further by senators.


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mga ka dds okey na kaya iyong nakita ng mga eksperto ng pao? :biglaugh:

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Another girl dies in Pampanga in spite of Dengvaxia vaccine
By: Tonette Orejas - @ttorejasINQ Philippine Daily Inquirer / 07:25 AM January 23, 2018

CITY OF SAN FERNANDO—A 12-year-old girl who has been immunized with Dengvaxia has died, raising to three the number of schoolchildren in Pampanga province who have died after inoculation with the dengue vaccine since December last year.

The girl received a single dose of Dengvaxia on June 14, 2016, at San Esteban Elementary School in Macabebe town.

She lived in the island village of Sapang Kawayan in the neighboring town of Masantol and had been diagnosed with brain herniation syndrome.

The girl got fever and cold on Jan. 14 and experienced headache and vomiting a day before she was admitted to government-run Jose B. Lingad Memorial Regional Hospital (JBLMRH) on Jan. 17. She died on Jan. 19.

Tests have yet to confirm whether she died of dengue.

Two elementary school students from Guagua and Candaba towns died earlier.

17 ailing children

On Monday, a girl from Barangay Paligui in Apalit town was taken to JBLMRH with fever, raising the number of Dengvaxia beneficiaries in Pampanga to fall ill to 70 since April 2016.

More than 47,300 schoolchildren in the province were inoculated with Dengvaxia under the Department of Health’s (DOH) botched dengue immunization drive.

In a statement last week, the DOH said it had helped 27 vaccinated schoolchildren aged 11 to 16 from various parts of Central Luzon. It provided no details.

Of the 27 patients, the DOH said five experienced severe dengue while 18 showed warning signs of dengue.



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pinatigil. ni-review. pina-continue.

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Fake news din pala si panot. :roll: :biglaugh:

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Si Panut pa rin ang main culprit dito. Secondary lang si Garin. Halatang may malice yung kapabayaan at pagmamadali nila. Marami silang initsapwera na proceso at binaypass na ahensya o institusyon na maaari sanang nakapigil sa problema ngayon. Kung sa konsyensiya lang, hindi kayang mabigyan ng benefit of the doubt. Si Ubial walang malice. Medyo nakatali na rin kamay niya. Yung kay Duterte ministerial na lang yun. Dapat talaga bitayin si Panut dito. :D

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Minadali. Kinwarta. Eleksyon. :lol:

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if you get it. :lol:

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May point naman bakit pina continue e ewan ko bakit pinipilit na issue yan.

So kasalanan nila bakit pina continue kahit na nag iintay sila sa other bodies ng "expert" opinion?

Kung di nila alam na masama so talagang papagawa nila yan e late na sinabi based sa timeline na nabasa ko.

Anong konek bakit si du30 lang may sala...e yung whole process kinalimutan na natin so ano yan sumulpot yung gamot?

Di to dds vs dilawan e maging objective lang kayo at maliliwanagan kayo sino may sala.

At sabi ko nga si pnoy at du30 parehas responsible at atfault dito. Di pedwng iisa lang.


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