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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:01 pm 
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With the storm that visited PRMO having passed, I suppose, let's get back to PRMO business. :D

With the object for bible believers to try to "synchronize" their bible understanding to "come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God" (Ephesians 4:13), let's discuss Christ's death.

My understanding is that when the Jesus Christ of the bible died, he really was dead and unconscious until the Father raised him back to life from the state of being dead.

Non-bible believers are, as always, welcome to also comment. :)


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:04 pm 
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Of course he died.
But he rose again after 3 days did he? :D


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I read somewhere that it was a "stage manage" act. Kind of modern magician doing this days. "Space age" people are wondering how they(ancient peopel) build pyramids and other so almost structurely and architecturally perfect. The author hinted that there was science involved and an a deception(?) on the "dying and rising" scene. I'm just sharing it so pls. don't accuse me of blasphemy. I'll try to find the article again and post it here kung makikita ko. :)

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i wasn't born yet....
i'll try to ask my lolo.....


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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
With the storm that visited PRMO having passed, I suppose, let's get back to PRMO business. :D

With the object for bible believers to try to "synchronize" their bible understanding to "come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God" (Ephesians 4:13), let's discuss Christ's death.

My understanding is that when the Jesus Christ of the bible died, he really was dead and unconscious until the Father raised him back to life from the state of being dead.

Non-bible believers are, as always, welcome to also comment. :)






exactly my belief as well Mang Epi. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:49 pm 
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edmendoza001 wrote:
exactly my belief as well Mang Epi. :)

equalizer wrote:
Of course he died.
But he rose again after 3 days did he? :D

So we're in agreement that he really died.

What is your comment on the others' belief that while the body died, Jesus' "spirit" went somewhere else to preach to spirits in prison during the period when he was supposed to be dead?

Jesus rose again when the Father raised him back after 3 days.


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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
edmendoza001 wrote:
exactly my belief as well Mang Epi. :)

equalizer wrote:
Of course he died.
But he rose again after 3 days did he? :D

So we're in agreement that he really died.

What is your comment on the others' belief that while the body died, Jesus' "spirit" went somewhere else to preach to spirits in prison during the period when he was supposed to be dead?
Jesus rose again when the Father raised him back after 3 days.





I'm not well versed Mang Eps pero is there any bible verse that would back up those claims?

Thanks

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rolando natagacavite wrote:
I read somewhere that it was a "stage manage" act.

Aren't you referring to Admerald's comment on life being scripted?

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edmendoza001 wrote:
Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
What is your comment on the others' belief that while the body died, Jesus' "spirit" went somewhere else to preach to spirits in prison during the period when he was supposed to be dead?
Jesus rose again when the Father raised him back after 3 days.

I'm not well versed Mang Eps pero is there any bible verse that would back up those claims?

Thanks

We'll just wait for those who have that belief to show the basis or bases of their belief. :)


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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
edmendoza001 wrote:
Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
What is your comment on the others' belief that while the body died, Jesus' "spirit" went somewhere else to preach to spirits in prison during the period when he was supposed to be dead?
Jesus rose again when the Father raised him back after 3 days.

I'm not well versed Mang Eps pero is there any bible verse that would back up those claims?

Thanks

We'll just wait for those who have that belief to show the basis or bases of their belief. :)





copy that Sir! :)

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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
edmendoza001 wrote:
exactly my belief as well Mang Epi. :)

equalizer wrote:
Of course he died.
But he rose again after 3 days did he? :D

So we're in agreement that he really died.

What is your comment on the others' belief that while the body died, Jesus' "spirit" went somewhere else to preach to spirits in prison during the period when he was supposed to be dead?

Jesus rose again when the Father raised him back after 3 days.

Opps, i'm sorry, i think i need to read morte about that.

pls. correct me if im wrong, all I know is that he preached in so many places before he raises himself up to heaven, nothing stated in the bible that he went somewhere else to preach to spirits in prison.


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equalizer wrote:
Opps, i'm sorry, i think i need to read morte about that.

pls. correct me if im wrong, all I know is that he preached in so many places before he raises himself up to heaven, nothing stated in the bible that he went somewhere else to preach to spirits in prison.

This is what they cite:

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.


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zaten wrote:
i wasn't born yet....
i'll try to ask my lolo.....


Bro you don't need to ask your lolo, just read a book with an inscription that reads...Bible. :D

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Yup. I believe in it based on faith and as it is written in the Bible. 8)
But the veracity of it is another issue which will be questioned by non-believers. :D

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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
With the storm that visited PRMO having passed, I suppose, let's get back to PRMO business. :D

With the object for bible believers to try to "synchronize" their bible understanding to "come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God" (Ephesians 4:13), let's discuss Christ's death.

My understanding is that when the Jesus Christ of the bible died, he really was dead and unconscious until the Father raised him back to life from the state of being dead.

Non-bible believers are, as always, welcome to also comment. :)


It is impossible to synchronize beliefs. Some people will simply not listen and they are already content with what they have. That is biblical and I believe you know it. :D

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