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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:39 pm 
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Mang Heruino wrote:
Napaparanoid ka na yata, gorio. There is no trap! :lol:

You can't even explain? I am not setting a trap, gorio. I am learning from Ka Epi's answers. I am a student here. Right now nakakatuwa ang napakalaking pagkaka-iba ng paraan mo ng pagsagot sa mga tanong sa iyo. Obvious and discrepancy. :)

Kaya pala walang naniniwala sa iyo. :lol:



oh yaan na naman salitang yan ( paranoid ) ... binitawan mo na nga yaan dati ibinalik mo na naman... bwahahahaha.... basahin mo ulit yoon at ganoong din ang magiging eksplenasyon ko dyan... bwahahhahaah

ano naman ang dapat i-explain...
magkaiba talaga kami ni mang epie,,, nakatutuk laang yan sa pagiging GOBERNADOR noong kanyan folly... abay elect daw sya eh.. enable pa!!! ang kaso mo hands off policy pala si dyesus... paano mangyayari na elect, enable sya...tinanong ko nga yoon ng HOW... hindi sinagot... bwahahhahhaahha

ako naman nakatutuk sa mga taong COMEDYANTE na ang akala sa sarili SERYOSO sila....
eksampol ikaw, you mang heruino... biruin mo ba naman aminin mo na REAL FOLLOWER OF CHRIST ka... di ka ba kinilabutan doon???/... bwahahahahahahah

at saka lagyan natin ng sabtaytol (GAYAHIN MO AKO JAMES)... bwahahahahaha

BWAHAHAHAHAHA + BWAHAHHAHHHAA - BWAHAHAHAHAHA = BWAHHHAHAHAHAH

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:58 pm 
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Kung hindi ka PARANOID gorio, saan mo naman nakuha yung sinasabi mong trap?

Ikaw talaga. Mas nahahalatang ikaw ang natural born COMEDIANE nyan eh. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:14 pm 
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Mang Heruino wrote:
Kung hindi ka PARANOID gorio, saan mo naman nakuha yung sinasabi mong trap?

Ikaw talaga. Mas nahahalatang ikaw ang natural born COMEDIANE nyan eh. :lol:



"paranoid" I ulridi ekspleyn it before, Its not my problem anymore if didnt get it...sounds pamili di ba!!!

learn from mang tonyos eksperyens!!!!

Akala ko pa naman may MILLION DOLLAR question akong hindi nasagot...T-in-EASE naman akong bumalik sa thread na to.... yoon naman pala BIBITAWAN na naman...



akala kasi namapaka SIRYUS noong tanong eh... di naya alam pang comedy lang pala!!!

NATURAL BORN COMEDIAN TALAGA eh!!!


BWAHAHAHAHAHA + BWAHAHAHAHAH - BWAHAHAHAHA = BWAHAHAHAHAH


mukhang di ko na kailangang iposte mo yoong thread na nirequest ko...
NABABASA NAMAN PALA ni mang epie eh!!!

tagumpay!!!! tagumpay!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHA + BWAHAHAHAHA - BWAHAHAHAHAH = BWAHAHAHAHA
ang babaw julius!!!!


nekpraydi ulit!!! TA^ta

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:54 pm 
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Very clear and profound answers, Ka Epi.

Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
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I will say these mang Epie na walang halong pangungutya !!!!!

WOW mang Epie, WOW!!!

ONLY BELIEVERS can UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE.... WOW!!!


god must be a REPUBLICAN!!!

The following post is for bible students.

Only those who have the Holy Spirit of God "can UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE" since understanding is revealed through God's Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written:
“ Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit.

Without God's Holy Spirit in a person, "the things of the spirit" are but "foolishness to him".

1 Corinthians 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

gorio20/20 wrote:
Look at the timeline between NT and OT,, mang epie....
New Testament is a CORRECTION of Old Testament and it was done through dyesus as per your belief..

mang epie... eh malay mo na-MISQUOTE nina Pablo si dyesus...

I've read the NT and there is no contradiction mang gorio.

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TOPIC: CREATION of MANKIND, DONE or STILL in the PROCESS?

Gen 1: 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

Gen 1: 27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

Gen 2: 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.

Gen 2: 22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Gen 5: 1 This is the written account of Adam’s family line.
When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind”[a] when they were created.

This is my last post here mang epie regarding the ACCOUNT of CREATION of MANKIND... anyway I know being an "UNBELIEVER" my UNDERSTANDING with your baybol is NO good..... at saka , NAKUHA ko na kasi yoong sagot eh... I will not even attempt of UNDERSTANDING the your baybol until I become a BELIEVER.... but I can say too that I will not stop asking for a BETTER PROOF, a solid PROOF that is....

hopefully YOU will not end up asking the same PROOF as I DID.... if ask by unbeliever...

mang myztizo... can you provide me that PROOF......

Don't overlook the best and handy "PROOF" mang gorio. Just pinch yourself. If it hurts (unless you have that ailment), then you are still flesh and blood. Dust. Mortal.

God is Spirit, immortal, and he is making man to be like him, spirit.

Thanks for your posts mang gorio. It was a good study exercise. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:10 pm 
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Mang Heruino wrote:
Very clear and profound answers, Ka Epi.

mang gorio and the others can ask questions which should lead bible students to take another look at how they understand bible verses.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:46 pm 
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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
This thread is started to discuss the question from the thread "WHat's the Secret of Iglesia Ni Cristo?"
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genetophile wrote:
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if religion will not save you, eh bakit po itinatag ni Cristo ang Iglesia nia?.. --> mat. 16:18

Naku roland, isa pang thread yan. Gusto mo ipakilala kita kay Ka Epi? Mas may tiyaga yun sumagot.

The answer to the question is so that Christ will be revealed to those whom God will draw to Jesus and for them to really know who he and what his purpose is. This answer is shown in Matthew 16:13-20 where in verse 18 Jesus declared that he will build his Church:

Matthew 13:13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
20 Then He commanded His disciples that they should tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ.

The conversation between Jesus and his disciples started with the question as to who men say Jesus was (verse 13). The disciples stated the guesses of men (verse 14) which were incorrect. Then God revealed who Jesus was to Peter who spoke out Christ's identity (verses 15-17). After the disciples were told that he was "the Christ, the Son of the living God”, Jesus told them that upon him (Christ) he will build his Church (verse 18).

The Church is linked with knowing Jesus as the Christ or the Messiah or the Savior. The answer then to the question why did Christ build his Church is so that those who will be made a part of it will know him and his purpose. (Knowing who Jesus is and his purpose in becoming flesh is another topic for discussion.)

In verse 20, Jesus specifically commanded "the disciples that they should tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ". Those who will not be made part of the Body of Christ, the Church that Jesus built, in this age will not know. and will not even be interested in knowing. who "the Son of Man" is.

Comments are welcome. :D


This is wrong biblically. Church is owned and built by God the Father and not Christ. I will give you the verse if you asked? =>


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:33 am 
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Read again the thread title. The topic is not on who owns but who built the Church.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:55 pm 
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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
Read again the thread title. The topic is not on who owns but who built the Church.


Yup. Didn't you see it? Owned and BUILT by God the Father. Not only He owns it, but He also built it. That is what the bible says. If you will ask the verses, explanation of the bible and not my own explanation. I will give you the verses. =>


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:04 pm 
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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
Mang Heruino wrote:
Very clear and profound answers, Ka Epi.

mang gorio and the others can ask questions which should lead bible students to take another look at how they understand bible verses.


mang epi, aware ka ba sa mga taong nagiinterpret ng certain bible verses as euphemism? kumbaga, ang ibang verses ay "sugar coated". ikaw ba sa mga debate o diskusyon na mga pinagdaanan mo, nagresort ka sa interpretasyon of a certain verse na malayo sa literal meaning ng mga words na ginamit? 8)

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did christ build his church?..NO, others build it, and make money and control from it


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:48 pm 
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Yup. Didn't you see it? Owned and BUILT by God the Father. Not only He owns it, but He also built it. That is what the bible says. If you will ask the verses, explanation of the bible and not my own explanation. I will give you the verses. =>

You should have posted already the verses when you made your comment.

I think we can shorten the discussion as to who is the actual builder of the Church by identifying who functions as the executive of the God family.


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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
howellstamaria wrote:
Yup. Didn't you see it? Owned and BUILT by God the Father. Not only He owns it, but He also built it. That is what the bible says. If you will ask the verses, explanation of the bible and not my own explanation. I will give you the verses. =>

You should have posted already the verses when you made your comment.

I think we can shorten the discussion as to who is the actual builder of the Church by identifying who functions as the executive of the God family.


I will sit for this for a while, but right now Im at the office. Later, Basketball. Tom am, volleyball, but yeah sure verses are coming to enlighten you. =>


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mang epi, aware ka ba sa mga taong nagiinterpret ng certain bible verses as euphemism? kumbaga, ang ibang verses ay "sugar coated". ikaw ba sa mga debate o diskusyon na mga pinagdaanan mo, nagresort ka sa interpretasyon of a certain verse na malayo sa literal meaning ng mga words na ginamit? 8)

I'm not sure if others use euphemisms instead of the actual bible words. The bible has euphemisms. I just read and quote what are in the bible. When the bible states that Adam "knew" Eve when what is really meant is that Adam had sexual intercourse with Eve, I read "knew' but explains the real meaning.

Genesis 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the LORD.”

I can't think of an instance when I avoided the actual bible word and misused a euphemism which distorted the import of the word avoided.


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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
doubleblade29 wrote:
mang epi, aware ka ba sa mga taong nagiinterpret ng certain bible verses as euphemism? kumbaga, ang ibang verses ay "sugar coated". ikaw ba sa mga debate o diskusyon na mga pinagdaanan mo, nagresort ka sa interpretasyon of a certain verse na malayo sa literal meaning ng mga words na ginamit? 8)

I'm not sure if others use euphemisms instead of the actual bible words. The bible has euphemisms. I just read and quote what are in the bible. When the bible states that Adam "knew" Eve when what is really meant is that Adam had sexual intercourse with Eve, I read "knew' but explains the real meaning.

Genesis 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the LORD.”

I can't think of an instance when I avoided the actual bible word and misused a euphemism which distorted the import of the word avoided.


actually, there's a lot of them. erich von daniken is one. he found many euphemism in the bible that, surprisingly, coincides with the teachings of modern science. michael tsarion is also one, but i'm not at all convinced with his interpretations.

if you have time, i suggest you do a little research on von daniken (if you happen to not yet know the guy) and one of his books Chariots of the Gods. it's not your conventional Christian tenets flow of thought, but just thinking you'd enjoy exploring other fields and broaden your horizon in the process. 8)

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doubleblade29 wrote:
Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
Mang Heruino wrote:
Very clear and profound answers, Ka Epi.

mang gorio and the others can ask questions which should lead bible students to take another look at how they understand bible verses.


mang epi, aware ka ba sa mga taong nagiinterpret ng certain bible verses as euphemism? kumbaga, ang ibang verses ay "sugar coated". ikaw ba sa mga debate o diskusyon na mga pinagdaanan mo, nagresort ka sa interpretasyon of a certain verse na malayo sa literal meaning ng mga words na ginamit? 8)



mang dobol,

dont eber yus the word " nagiinterpret " ng baybol... alrdyik dyan si mang epie...

yus the word " UNDERSTANDING " instead... bwahahahahhaah


BWAHAHAHHAHA + BWAHAHAHAHA - BWAHAHAHAH = BWAHAHAHAHAH

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