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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am 
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The "end" that "will come" is not the obliteration of this earth as the many might have heard from doom sayers but Christ's return. Christ's return ends this age but it also begins another.

In a private audience they sought with Jesus Christ, his disciples asked him questions relating to Christ's return and the end of the age.

Matthew 24:3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

Jesus' answers begin with "Take heed that no one deceives you" (verse 4). He then enumerated the signs many of which have been occurring since then and will continue until Christ's return (verses 4-12).

Jesus continues by saying,

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Every Christian in these latter days must really understand what this "gospel of the kingdom" is to become a more effective part in its preaching to "all the nations" which will usher in Christ's return.

What is this gospel or good news of the kingdom?

Comments, especially from Christians, are welcome. :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:22 am 
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It says,the Gospel will be preached.....it does not necessarily follow that the Gospel will be preached and accepted BY ALL MEN.
For as long as some parts of the Middle East prohibits the entry of the Bible and would even be mocked when Men encounter the worst of the Great Tribulation.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:41 am 
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We're in agreement in this aspect mang pat. To those whose creation is not to proceed in this age, the preaching is only "as a witness" unto them. But to those who have been called out and put into the body of Christ, there is significance in the coming of "the end".

As pointed out, the end of this age is Christ's coming and to the members comprising the Church, Christ's coming is a grand wedding event. Christ is the groom and the Church is the bride. The Church, as a whole, will be ready at that time.

Revelation 19:6 And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns! 7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.”

Each individual Christian must be doing all the necessary preparations to be ready when that wedding event comes. While he does his vital part in preaching the good news of the kingdom "in all the world as a witness to all the nations" the Christian should ask himself regularly, "Will I be ready?"


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:27 am 
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The end times or the coming of Christ's age/aeon, is an astrological allegorical depiction of the end of the House of Pisces as we enter the Age of Aquarius?

When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments, he was very upset to see his people still worshiping a golden bull-calf. He saw that the people were still stuck in the traditions, the way of thinking, of the Age of Taurus the Bull, which was over.

Image < 4300 BC - 2150 BC

Moses was the ‘Messiah’ for the incoming Age of Aries the Ram, and upon the arrival of the new age, everyone must shed the old age. That's why Jews today still blow the Ram's horn, which was a symbol of the Age of Aries.

Image < 2150 BC - 1 AD


Each New Age, it seems, has its ‘Messiah’. Jesus or Yeshua, (which was more likely his actual name) heralded the birthing of the Piscean age; the Age of Pisces the Two Fish. Fish symbolism is abundant in the New Testament. Jesus feeds 5000 people with bread and two fish. He befriends two fishermen, who follow him, and we see the Jesus-fish on the backs of people’s cars. Most of the drivers probably do not know that it is actually a Pagan astrological symbol for the Sun’s Kingdom during the Age of Pisces.

Image < 1 AD - 2150 AD (Our Age Today, the House of Pisces personified by Jesus)


In Luke 22:10 when Jesus is asked by his disciples where the next ‘Passover’ will be, Jesus replied:

“Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you ‘bearing a pitcher of water’... follow him into the house where he entereth in.”

Image < 2150 AD - 4300 AD

This scripture is clearly an astrological reference. The man ‘bearing a pitcher’ of water is Aquarius, the water-bearer, who is always shown as a man pouring out a pitcher of water. He represents the age after Pisces, and when the Sun (God's Sun) leaves the Age of Pisces (Jesus/Yeshua), it will go into the House of Aquarius, as Aquarius follows Pisces in the precession of the equinoxes. Jesus is saying that after the Age of Pisces will come the Age of Aquarius. When we look back on this time in say twenty years, who I wonder will stand out as having been the New Messiah who brought in the Aquarian Age? It will be interesting to see….

The End Times

We have all heard about the end times and the end of the world. Apart from the occult depictions in the Book of Revelation, the main source of this idea comes from Matthew 28:20, where, in the King James Version, Jesus says “I will be with you even to the end of the world.”
However, ‘world’ is a mistranslation. The actual word being used is ‘aeon’, which means ‘age.’ “I will be with you even to the end of the age.” Which is true, as Jesus’ Solar Piscean personification will end when the Sun enters the Age of Aquarius.

Precession of the Equinoxes approx 2600 years.
2150 years = "Age"

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:11 am 
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patutsky wrote:
It says,the Gospel will be preached.....it does not necessarily follow that the Gospel will be preached and accepted BY ALL MEN.
For as long as some parts of the Middle East prohibits the entry of the Bible and would even be mocked when Men encounter the worst of the Great Tribulation.



the bible is right sir patuts... Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the GOSPEL to every creature.

middle east countries....
saudi arabia(arab) ...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhBZnrbt68
iran(persian) ...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkTgcFpoF3U
israel(jew) .......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sEBAldf4L0

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:35 am 
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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Every Christian in these latter days must really understand what this "gospel of the kingdom" is to become a more effective part in its preaching to "all the nations" which will usher in Christ's return.

What is this gospel or good news of the kingdom?


gospel = is a writing that describes the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus

gospel is the good news of redemption to all who believe that Jesus Christ who offered himself to suffered and died for one's sins...

1 Corinthians Chapter 15.1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:15 pm 
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Xuco wrote:
gospel = is a writing that describes the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus

gospel is the good news of redemption to all who believe that Jesus Christ who offered himself to suffered and died for one's sins...

The Greek for gospel is evangeleon which means good news. How do you connect your explanation to "kingdom"?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:40 pm 
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mexifan wrote:
The end times or the coming of Christ's age/aeon, is an astrological allegorical depiction of the end of the House of Pisces as we enter the Age of Aquarius?

In Luke 22:10 when Jesus is asked by his disciples where the next ‘Passover’ will be, Jesus replied:

“Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you ‘bearing a pitcher of water’... follow him into the house where he entereth in.”

This scripture is clearly an astrological reference. The man ‘bearing a pitcher’ of water is Aquarius, the water-bearer, who is always shown as a man pouring out a pitcher of water. He represents the age after Pisces, and when the Sun (God's Sun) leaves the Age of Pisces (Jesus/Yeshua), it will go into the House of Aquarius, as Aquarius follows Pisces in the precession of the equinoxes. Jesus is saying that after the Age of Pisces will come the Age of Aquarius. When we look back on this time in say twenty years, who I wonder will stand out as having been the New Messiah who brought in the Aquarian Age? It will be interesting to see….

The bible categorizes astrology as an idolatry.

2 Kings 23:5 Then he removed the idolatrous priests whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense on the high places in the cities of Judah and in the places all around Jerusalem, and those who burned incense to Baal, to the sun, to the moon, to the constellations, and to all the host of heaven.

The bible likewise shows that God will burn "the astrologers, the stargazers, And the monthly prognosticators".

Isaiah 47:13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the astrologers, the stargazers,
And the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:00 pm 
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Since no one knows when Christ returns, Christians should be ever ready

The parable of the wise and foolish virgins emphasize the importance of being ready at all times.

Matthew 25:1 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.
6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’ 7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.

Having been given the Holy Spirit, not utilizing it in doing his preparation forfeits the Christian's opportunity for eternal life.

Matthew 25:11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’
13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

To belong to the category of being wise and ready for the wedding ceremony, the Christian must be occupied in doing what the Christian must be doing till Christ's return as explained in this thread "The 'business' the Christian must be doing".

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To preach "the gospel of the kingdom" the Christian must know what is it

"Gospel" is "good news". But what is that good news of the kingdom which is to be preached to all nations?

Most, if not all, of the preaching I hear is on man's salvation. "Jesus Saves", declares a big poster at EDSA. That Jesus died in man's behalf so that man would not perish for his sin and is set free from the death sentence to live forever is good news for man.

Salvation of mankind is good news. To man. But man must realize and not forget that although Jesus' death was planned to be made in case man sins, and man did sin, Jesus did not see it as "good news" when he was about to be abused and executed. God had to send an angel to strengthen Jesus who agonized at the thought of being tortured before he would be put to death.

Luke 22:41 And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42 saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.” 43 Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him. 44 And being in agony, He prayed more earnestly. Then His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

So if the Christian limits his focus only on the salvation process as good news, it is not really good news as a whole. In fact, when the Christian contemplates Jesus' sufferings, he would feel sad for Jesus. To have a real good news, the news should be good for both God and man.

The Christian must learn more beyond salvation to know the real good news, "the gospel of the kingdom", so that he could preach it "in all the world as a witness to all the nations".


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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
mexifan wrote:
The end times or the coming of Christ's age/aeon, is an astrological allegorical depiction of the end of the House of Pisces as we enter the Age of Aquarius?

In Luke 22:10 when Jesus is asked by his disciples where the next ‘Passover’ will be, Jesus replied:

“Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you ‘bearing a pitcher of water’... follow him into the house where he entereth in.”

This scripture is clearly an astrological reference. The man ‘bearing a pitcher’ of water is Aquarius, the water-bearer, who is always shown as a man pouring out a pitcher of water. He represents the age after Pisces, and when the Sun (God's Sun) leaves the Age of Pisces (Jesus/Yeshua), it will go into the House of Aquarius, as Aquarius follows Pisces in the precession of the equinoxes. Jesus is saying that after the Age of Pisces will come the Age of Aquarius. When we look back on this time in say twenty years, who I wonder will stand out as having been the New Messiah who brought in the Aquarian Age? It will be interesting to see….

The bible categorizes astrology as an idolatry.

2 Kings 23:5 Then he removed the idolatrous priests whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense on the high places in the cities of Judah and in the places all around Jerusalem, and those who burned incense to Baal, to the sun, to the moon, to the constellations, and to all the host of heaven.

The bible likewise shows that God will burn "the astrologers, the stargazers, And the monthly prognosticators".

Isaiah 47:13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the astrologers, the stargazers,
And the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!


I know that, Epi and yet we see a lot of men of the cloth who are into astrology and even ufology. In fact the Vatican owns some observatories.

Astrology is knowledge. It's a shame that the bible is against it. Perhaps another explanation could be, that the writers of the Bible didn't want people to know that its religion has it's pagan roots in sun worship. Hence, the prohibition of Astrology?

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Epifanio M. Almeda wrote:
Xuco wrote:
gospel = is a writing that describes the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus

gospel is the good news of redemption to all who believe that Jesus Christ who offered himself to suffered and died for one's sins...

The Greek for gospel is evangeleon which means good news. How do you connect your explanation to "kingdom"?


ang pagkaintindi ko kasi sir kapag tinangap mo si jesus christ as your personal savior dahil sa gospel o kaya ang isang tao kapag nakaranas ng pagbabago dahil sa gospel ay nagiging part na sya sa kingdom of God... nerecognized nya ang kingship ni kristo o under na sya sa dominion ng kinngdom of God...

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the KINGDOM OF GOD is within you.


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when religious people talks about the end is near and be prepared for it, that kind of freak me out. 'coz these are the people who won't give a shet in keeping Earth a safer and better place to live. 8)


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when religious people talks about the end is near and be prepared for it, that kind of freak me out. 'coz these are the people who won't give a shet in keeping Earth a safer and better place to live. 8)

Can you cite the basis of your view? Who in particular are these "religious people"?

This thread is focused mainly on a Christian as the bible defines one.


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I know that, Epi and yet we see a lot of men of the cloth who are into astrology and even ufology. In fact the Vatican owns some observatories.

Then they are going against the will of the bible God.

mexifan wrote:
Astrology is knowledge. It's a shame that the bible is against it. Perhaps another explanation could be, that the writers of the Bible didn't want people to know that its religion has it's pagan roots in sun worship. Hence, the prohibition of Astrology?

What is that "religion" which "has it's pagan roots in sun worship"?


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