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Manny's new found interest, bible study, is both a bane and a boon for his boxing career.

It is good enough in the sense that through it he was able to turn his back from some of his well-known vices namely **** fighting, gambling and womanizing which were his distractions in the past. On the other hand one can claim that immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.

Tim Bradley is a hard-nosed dance partner for Manny. He is young, hungry, strong, skillful, black slick fighter/boxer, dirty, and wily. His power is suspect at 140 and more so at 147, but he is undefeated. Manny, if unprepared and distracted will lose this one. Bradley is not like Marquez who simply waits all 12 rounds and thus lose his opportunity for victory, he attacks relentlessly with the baddest of intentions. I hope that Manny does not take him lightly in the light of Ariza's interview with fighthype belittling the capability of Bradley.

The way his camp has been going on in recent fights, Manny will lose this one. The rematch, as it will be stipulated in the contract, will be different because by then he will be very focused. Uncle Bob likes this. Floyd likes it. Maybe Manny likes it too. It is all about the benjamins.

The Bible study can be ominous.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:17 am 
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It's all part of the advice of his image consultant. Distraction? Don't think so.

Maybe it's all part of the Benjamins, yes I agree!


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and casimero is the preacher... :peace:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:35 am 
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pranzer wrote:
Manny's new found interest, bible study, is both a bane and a boon for his boxing career.

It is good enough in the sense that through it he was able to turn his back from some of his well-known vices namely **** fighting, gambling and womanizing which were his distractions in the past. On the other hand one can claim that immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.


The way his camp has been going on in recent fights, Manny will lose this one. The rematch, as it will be stipulated in the contract, will be different because by then he will be very focused. Uncle Bob likes this. Floyd likes it. Maybe Manny likes it too. It is all about the benjamins.

The Bible study can be ominous.


I can take most of the criticisms and speculations on Manny Pacquiao but not and never about where the Holy Bible is being dismiss of its perfect gift to human life.

I am surprised that the Bible was regarded in this post as I quoted, a distraction to a person's career that in the case of Manny Pacquiao, his boxing career. Though a see the poster as objective, nothing and there is simply nothing greater than knowing the wisdom of God through his words. His word is your bread of life, the path leading to a righteous life.

If Manny will lose his fight to Bradley due to his love knowing the Word of God then so be it, as nothing greater of a victory than coming to Christ and knowing His heart.

But then again God always has His ways to embarrass those unbelievers and people who tend to dismiss the great benefit of studying the Word. Therefore, I have no hesitation to say that Manny Pacquiao will come out victorious against Tim Bradley this June.

What a way having the blessing from God this time around to remain relentless and technically-skilled atop the ring. The Bible will change Manny's heart of the righteous way of helping people's lives, but not of his current profession which is boxing, because it is written man will find ways to help himself through hard labor that when done before God's glory shall be blessed to reap prosperity and success. There is nothing in the bible that condemns physical sports that in fact it encourages dedication, hard training to come out victorious.

Manny Pacquiao with his adherence knowing the word of God simply made him a complete fighter both physically and spiritually. His objective in the ring is to hurt just enough to win and not to hurt to kill. We may say that it is going to be hard for Manny to know if his hard punches would not kill or create severe damage to his opponent, but that is where God's blessings to Manny will come out. God shall take care of Manny's opponent to get hurt just enough to lose and not to be killed or seriously hurt.

In due time, Manny should relinquish his boxing career as God would not always glorify a profession that promotes physical beating. If Manny remains faithful to the word, God shall just use boxing for Manny for his glory then lead him to the path of glorifying God's name to the people who admire him.

Each of us has been provided by God a path to know and preach His glory.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:46 am 
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DonaireFan wrote:
It's all part of the advice of his image consultant. Distraction? Don't think so.

Maybe it's all part of the Benjamins, yes I agree!


I wish you had the wisdom and no bias hatred at all to Manny Pacquiao when you delivered this idea of yours.

Because a person who has wisdom would commend first the willingness of the person to study the Word. I would not jump into conclusion as it carries what God wants us to do which is to know Him and preach His love to us.

If Manny is just using God for his future script, then I will leave God to punish him. It is not my loss, it is his. But I tell you, it is hard to judge a person making a move to study and preach the Word.

This is because we may never know his heart on this, but preempting his motives by negative judgment why he preaches the word of God is like halting the preaching of the Word from where you are becoming an enemy towards what God wants his people to do for Him.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:15 am 
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whooaaa!!! hold it there TS!
The Bible is the Word of God, and it is a destruction to you?
Jesus died for us to redeemed us from all our sin.
He gave His life for us sinners.
Just imagine the magnitude of what He has done on the cross of Calvary.
That is LOVE! He rose again to justify those who will believe.
Justification because though we are sinners we no longer need
to pay the sin we cannot pay, He paid it for us with His precious blood.

I pray you will able to comprehend how wide, how long, how high,
and how deep his love for us.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:29 am 
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jawo wrote:
pranzer wrote:
Manny's new found interest, bible study, is both a bane and a boon for his boxing career.

It is good enough in the sense that through it he was able to turn his back from some of his well-known vices namely **** fighting, gambling and womanizing which were his distractions in the past. On the other hand one can claim that immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.


The way his camp has been going on in recent fights, Manny will lose this one. The rematch, as it will be stipulated in the contract, will be different because by then he will be very focused. Uncle Bob likes this. Floyd likes it. Maybe Manny likes it too. It is all about the benjamins.

The Bible study can be ominous.


I can take most of the criticisms and speculations on Manny Pacquiao but not and never about where the Holy Bible is being dismiss of its perfect gift to human life.

I am surprised that the Bible was regarded in this post as I quoted, a distraction to a person's career that in the case of Manny Pacquiao, his boxing career. Though a see the poster as objective, nothing and there is simply nothing greater than knowing the wisdom of God through his words. His word is your bread of life, the path leading to a righteous life.

If Manny will lose his fight to Bradley due to his love knowing the Word of God then so be it, as nothing greater of a victory than coming to Christ and knowing His heart.

But then again God always has His ways to embarrass those unbelievers and people who tend to dismiss the great benefit of studying the Word. Therefore, I have no hesitation to say that Manny Pacquiao will come out victorious against Tim Bradley this June.

What a way having the blessing from God this time around to remain relentless and technically-skilled atop the ring. The Bible will change Manny's heart of the righteous way of helping people's lives, but not of his current profession which is boxing, because it is written man will find ways to help himself through hard labor that when done before God's glory shall be blessed to reap prosperity and success. There is nothing in the bible that condemns physical sports that in fact it encourages dedication, hard training to come out victorious.

Manny Pacquiao with his adherence knowing the word of God simply made him a complete fighter both physically and spiritually. His objective in the ring is to hurt just enough to win and not to hurt to kill. We may say that it is going to be hard for Manny to know if his hard punches would not kill or create severe damage to his opponent, but that is where God's blessings to Manny will come out. God shall take care of Manny's opponent to get hurt just enough to lose and not to be killed or seriously hurt.

In due time, Manny should relinquish his boxing career as God would not always glorify a profession that promotes physical beating. If Manny remains faithful to the word, God shall just use boxing for Manny for his glory then lead him to the path of glorifying God's name to the people who admire him.

Each of us has been provided by God a path to know and preach His glory.


Amen!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:39 am 
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nonongsanmateo wrote:
jawo wrote:
pranzer wrote:
Manny's new found interest, bible study, is both a bane and a boon for his boxing career.

It is good enough in the sense that through it he was able to turn his back from some of his well-known vices namely **** fighting, gambling and womanizing which were his distractions in the past. On the other hand one can claim that immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.


The way his camp has been going on in recent fights, Manny will lose this one. The rematch, as it will be stipulated in the contract, will be different because by then he will be very focused. Uncle Bob likes this. Floyd likes it. Maybe Manny likes it too. It is all about the benjamins.

The Bible study can be ominous.


I can take most of the criticisms and speculations on Manny Pacquiao but not and never about where the Holy Bible is being dismiss of its perfect gift to human life.

I am surprised that the Bible was regarded in this post as I quoted, a distraction to a person's career that in the case of Manny Pacquiao, his boxing career. Though a see the poster as objective, nothing and there is simply nothing greater than knowing the wisdom of God through his words. His word is your bread of life, the path leading to a righteous life.

If Manny will lose his fight to Bradley due to his love knowing the Word of God then so be it, as nothing greater of a victory than coming to Christ and knowing His heart.

But then again God always has His ways to embarrass those unbelievers and people who tend to dismiss the great benefit of studying the Word. Therefore, I have no hesitation to say that Manny Pacquiao will come out victorious against Tim Bradley this June.

What a way having the blessing from God this time around to remain relentless and technically-skilled atop the ring. The Bible will change Manny's heart of the righteous way of helping people's lives, but not of his current profession which is boxing, because it is written man will find ways to help himself through hard labor that when done before God's glory shall be blessed to reap prosperity and success. There is nothing in the bible that condemns physical sports that in fact it encourages dedication, hard training to come out victorious.

Manny Pacquiao with his adherence knowing the word of God simply made him a complete fighter both physically and spiritually. His objective in the ring is to hurt just enough to win and not to hurt to kill. We may say that it is going to be hard for Manny to know if his hard punches would not kill or create severe damage to his opponent, but that is where God's blessings to Manny will come out. God shall take care of Manny's opponent to get hurt just enough to lose and not to be killed or seriously hurt.

In due time, Manny should relinquish his boxing career as God would not always glorify a profession that promotes physical beating. If Manny remains faithful to the word, God shall just use boxing for Manny for his glory then lead him to the path of glorifying God's name to the people who admire him.

Each of us has been provided by God a path to know and preach His glory.


Amen!


Bless you Mod Jawo :D


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:03 pm 
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George Foreman said. "Christianity is like Boxing. Its better to give than to receive." King David still was a great warrior, even to his later years. but we all know Him as man after Gods own heart. Manny,, keep on going kid!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:22 pm 
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jawo wrote:
pranzer wrote:
Manny's new found interest, bible study, is both a bane and a boon for his boxing career.

It is good enough in the sense that through it he was able to turn his back from some of his well-known vices namely **** fighting, gambling and womanizing which were his distractions in the past. On the other hand one can claim that immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.


The way his camp has been going on in recent fights, Manny will lose this one. The rematch, as it will be stipulated in the contract, will be different because by then he will be very focused. Uncle Bob likes this. Floyd likes it. Maybe Manny likes it too. It is all about the benjamins.

The Bible study can be ominous.


I can take most of the criticisms and speculations on Manny Pacquiao but not and never about where the Holy Bible is being dismiss of its perfect gift to human life.

I am surprised that the Bible was regarded in this post as I quoted, a distraction to a person's career that in the case of Manny Pacquiao, his boxing career. Though a see the poster as objective, nothing and there is simply nothing greater than knowing the wisdom of God through his words. His word is your bread of life, the path leading to a righteous life.

If Manny will lose his fight to Bradley due to his love knowing the Word of God then so be it, as nothing greater of a victory than coming to Christ and knowing His heart.

But then again God always has His ways to embarrass those unbelievers and people who tend to dismiss the great benefit of studying the Word. Therefore, I have no hesitation to say that Manny Pacquiao will come out victorious against Tim Bradley this June.

What a way having the blessing from God this time around to remain relentless and technically-skilled atop the ring. The Bible will change Manny's heart of the righteous way of helping people's lives, but not of his current profession which is boxing, because it is written man will find ways to help himself through hard labor that when done before God's glory shall be blessed to reap prosperity and success. There is nothing in the bible that condemns physical sports that in fact it encourages dedication, hard training to come out victorious.

Manny Pacquiao with his adherence knowing the word of God simply made him a complete fighter both physically and spiritually. His objective in the ring is to hurt just enough to win and not to hurt to kill. We may say that it is going to be hard for Manny to know if his hard punches would not kill or create severe damage to his opponent, but that is where God's blessings to Manny will come out. God shall take care of Manny's opponent to get hurt just enough to lose and not to be killed or seriously hurt.

In due time, Manny should relinquish his boxing career as God would not always glorify a profession that promotes physical beating. If Manny remains faithful to the word, God shall just use boxing for Manny for his glory then lead him to the path of glorifying God's name to the people who admire him.

Each of us has been provided by God a path to know and preach His glory.


Mod Jawo, thanks for this points. Amen Amen Amen.

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jawo wrote:
pranzer wrote:
Manny's new found interest, bible study, is both a bane and a boon for his boxing career.

It is good enough in the sense that through it he was able to turn his back from some of his well-known vices namely **** fighting, gambling and womanizing which were his distractions in the past. On the other hand one can claim that immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.


The way his camp has been going on in recent fights, Manny will lose this one. The rematch, as it will be stipulated in the contract, will be different because by then he will be very focused. Uncle Bob likes this. Floyd likes it. Maybe Manny likes it too. It is all about the benjamins.

The Bible study can be ominous.


I can take most of the criticisms and speculations on Manny Pacquiao but not and never about where the Holy Bible is being dismiss of its perfect gift to human life.

I am surprised that the Bible was regarded in this post as I quoted, a distraction to a person's career that in the case of Manny Pacquiao, his boxing career. Though a see the poster as objective, nothing and there is simply nothing greater than knowing the wisdom of God through his words. His word is your bread of life, the path leading to a righteous life.

If Manny will lose his fight to Bradley due to his love knowing the Word of God then so be it, as nothing greater of a victory than coming to Christ and knowing His heart.

But then again God always has His ways to embarrass those unbelievers and people who tend to dismiss the great benefit of studying the Word. Therefore, I have no hesitation to say that Manny Pacquiao will come out victorious against Tim Bradley this June.

What a way having the blessing from God this time around to remain relentless and technically-skilled atop the ring. The Bible will change Manny's heart of the righteous way of helping people's lives, but not of his current profession which is boxing, because it is written man will find ways to help himself through hard labor that when done before God's glory shall be blessed to reap prosperity and success. There is nothing in the bible that condemns physical sports that in fact it encourages dedication, hard training to come out victorious.

Manny Pacquiao with his adherence knowing the word of God simply made him a complete fighter both physically and spiritually. His objective in the ring is to hurt just enough to win and not to hurt to kill. We may say that it is going to be hard for Manny to know if his hard punches would not kill or create severe damage to his opponent, but that is where God's blessings to Manny will come out. God shall take care of Manny's opponent to get hurt just enough to lose and not to be killed or seriously hurt.

In due time, Manny should relinquish his boxing career as God would not always glorify a profession that promotes physical beating. If Manny remains faithful to the word, God shall just use boxing for Manny for his glory then lead him to the path of glorifying God's name to the people who admire him.

Each of us has been provided by God a path to know and preach His glory.

big AMEN!...


sampal ito sa mga katulad ni TS at sa iba pang mga barabas na naglilipana sa buong pacland ngayon...tama nga ang nasa Bible...pag may isang kaluluwa ang nanunumbalik sa Diyos...buong kalangitan ay nagagalak...pero double time naman ang mga kampon ni Lucifer para mahatak papunta ulit sa impyerno yung kaluluwang yaon. ... 8)

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jawo wrote:

I can take most of the criticisms and speculations on Manny Pacquiao but not and never about where the Holy Bible is being dismiss of its perfect gift to human life.

I am surprised that the Bible was regarded in this post as I quoted, a distraction to a person's career that in the case of Manny Pacquiao, his boxing career. Though a see the poster as objective, nothing and there is simply nothing greater than knowing the wisdom of God through his words. His word is your bread of life, the path leading to a righteous life.

If Manny will lose his fight to Bradley due to his love knowing the Word of God then so be it, as nothing greater of a victory than coming to Christ and knowing His heart.

But then again God always has His ways to embarrass those unbelievers and people who tend to dismiss the great benefit of studying the Word. Therefore, I have no hesitation to say that Manny Pacquiao will come out victorious against Tim Bradley this June.

What a way having the blessing from God this time around to remain relentless and technically-skilled atop the ring. The Bible will change Manny's heart of the righteous way of helping people's lives, but not of his current profession which is boxing, because it is written man will find ways to help himself through hard labor that when done before God's glory shall be blessed to reap prosperity and success. There is nothing in the bible that condemns physical sports that in fact it encourages dedication, hard training to come out victorious.

Manny Pacquiao with his adherence knowing the word of God simply made him a complete fighter both physically and spiritually. His objective in the ring is to hurt just enough to win and not to hurt to kill. We may say that it is going to be hard for Manny to know if his hard punches would not kill or create severe damage to his opponent, but that is where God's blessings to Manny will come out. God shall take care of Manny's opponent to get hurt just enough to lose and not to be killed or seriously hurt.

In due time, Manny should relinquish his boxing career as God would not always glorify a profession that promotes physical beating. If Manny remains faithful to the word, God shall just use boxing for Manny for his glory then lead him to the path of glorifying God's name to the people who admire him.

Each of us has been provided by God a path to know and preach His glory.



I can see how a seemingly devout Christian as yourself would get offended by the original post, but to be fair, pranzer makes a valid, albeit controversial, point:

pranzer wrote:
immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.


Additionally, just the desire to project a squeaky-clean, bible-toting image may hold Manny him back come fight night, and deter him from bringing out his killer instinct. This is definitely a cause of concern for his fans, especially on the heels of a forgettable performance wherein he strayed from his usual fan-pleasing style of fighting in favor of a more cautious approach.

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God Bless you as well Sparrow, Ukyo, d_artagnan29, rborromeo, majayjay and nonongsanmateo.

But I also wish the best for the TS as he is quite objective on what he is saying. Guys, I may know a bit of God's wisdom but that does not mean I'm faithful in works. Mahirap mga bro. But if you have the opportunity like this, just say so.


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jawo wrote:

I can take most of the criticisms and speculations on Manny Pacquiao but not and never about where the Holy Bible is being dismiss of its perfect gift to human life.

I am surprised that the Bible was regarded in this post as I quoted, a distraction to a person's career that in the case of Manny Pacquiao, his boxing career. Though a see the poster as objective, nothing and there is simply nothing greater than knowing the wisdom of God through his words. His word is your bread of life, the path leading to a righteous life.

If Manny will lose his fight to Bradley due to his love knowing the Word of God then so be it, as nothing greater of a victory than coming to Christ and knowing His heart.

But then again God always has His ways to embarrass those unbelievers and people who tend to dismiss the great benefit of studying the Word. Therefore, I have no hesitation to say that Manny Pacquiao will come out victorious against Tim Bradley this June.

What a way having the blessing from God this time around to remain relentless and technically-skilled atop the ring. The Bible will change Manny's heart of the righteous way of helping people's lives, but not of his current profession which is boxing, because it is written man will find ways to help himself through hard labor that when done before God's glory shall be blessed to reap prosperity and success. There is nothing in the bible that condemns physical sports that in fact it encourages dedication, hard training to come out victorious.

Manny Pacquiao with his adherence knowing the word of God simply made him a complete fighter both physically and spiritually. His objective in the ring is to hurt just enough to win and not to hurt to kill. We may say that it is going to be hard for Manny to know if his hard punches would not kill or create severe damage to his opponent, but that is where God's blessings to Manny will come out. God shall take care of Manny's opponent to get hurt just enough to lose and not to be killed or seriously hurt.

In due time, Manny should relinquish his boxing career as God would not always glorify a profession that promotes physical beating. If Manny remains faithful to the word, God shall just use boxing for Manny for his glory then lead him to the path of glorifying God's name to the people who admire him.

Each of us has been provided by God a path to know and preach His glory.



I can see how a seemingly devout Christian as yourself would get offended by the original post, but to be fair, pranzer makes a valid, albeit controversial, point:

pranzer wrote:
immersing in the study of the bible is also time consuming and softens the heart and will to mete on one's opponent the punishment that will ensure a decisive, effective and fan-satisfying result.


Additionally, just the desire to project a squeaky-clean, bible-toting image may hold Manny him back come fight night, and deter him from bringing out his killer instinct. This is definitely a cause of concern for his fans, especially on the heels of a forgettable performance wherein he strayed from his usual fan-pleasing style of fighting in favor of a more cautious approach.


That is why I made a bit of a lengthy response, that concern is already covered by what I said.


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jawo wrote:
God Bless you as well Sparrow, Ukyo, d_artagnan29, rborromeo, majayjay and nonongsanmateo.

But I also wish the best for the TS as he is quite objective on what he is saying. Guys, I may know a bit of God's wisdom but that does not mean I'm faithful in works. Mahirap mga bro. But if you have the opportunity like this, just say so.

yan ang hindi maintindihan ng mga unbelievers mod.... akala kasi nila porket nagsasalita tayo ng tungkol sa faith natin ..eh ibig sabihin nun perpekto na tayo at wala na tyong bahid ng kahipokrituhan... akala nila madaling mamuhay ng matuwid... ang hindi nila alam... napakhirap...lalo na't maraming temptations...napakahirap talga. :roll: :wink:

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