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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:39 pm 
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10cc, Yup. Hindi talaga para sa akin ang maniwala pre.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:41 pm 
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bugoyparin wrote:
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And who would believe that one could reach the age of 900?


sa history ng tao (yung valid at scientifically documented) mas mahaba dapat ang buhay ng present day na tao kaysa mga ninuno natin due to better food, medicine, shelter etc. and not the other way around.

Pero walang impossible sa diyos, sabi nga ni Mang Gorio: God's Magic :lol:



mas naniniwala akong mas mahaba ang buhay ng tao noon...

mas fresh ang pagkain noon at hindi cultured ng kung ano anong pataba...

sa karne naman e native and natural... hindi crossbreed, scientifically and engineered na kung ano ano ang pinapakain para maging madcow at birdflu...

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ano kaya lifespan ng mga natives sa jungle ng amazon?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:43 pm 
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If god is so powerful... bakit nia kelangan ng flood to kill all the people... bakit di na lang nia pinatay by a flick of his fingers. Mas madali.

while it is possible for God of the Bible hindi pa ba act of divine power para sau ung flood at ark?

for believers, God's ways is higher than man's ways.

atheists are living according to their own ways, for they are the god of themselves.

ayaw silang maniwalang may diyos, pero pinapakialaman ang gawa at paraan ng diyos. very ironic di ba?

"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." -Isaiah 55:9


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:48 pm 
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bugoyparin wrote:
boknoy the fighting ball wrote:
paktokyo wrote:
And who would believe that one could reach the age of 900?


sa history ng tao (yung valid at scientifically documented) mas mahaba dapat ang buhay ng present day na tao kaysa mga ninuno natin due to better food, medicine, shelter etc. and not the other way around.

Pero walang impossible sa diyos, sabi nga ni Mang Gorio: God's Magic :lol:



mas naniniwala akong mas mahaba ang buhay ng tao noon...

mas fresh ang pagkain noon at hindi cultured ng kung ano anong pataba...

sa karne naman e native and natural... hindi crossbreed, scientifically and engineered na kung ano ano ang pinapakain para maging madcow at birdflu...

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

naman, puro natural yan.

kaya pansin mo yung mga probinsiyano noon mas humahaba ang buhay.

ang lolo ko halos 90 anyos na umaakyat pa ng mataas na puno ng mga niyog para umani ng favorite niyang 'tuba juice". :)

how about your lolos guys? :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:02 pm 
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for the sake of discussion, may magandang article sa wikipedia about life expectancy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy

in general mas maikli ang buhay ng tao sa panahon ng war, famine o disease... at mas mahaba ngayong modern times dahil na rin sa advancement sa medecine, public health, etc.

sa kabubuan yan, average kumbaga, may mga outlier syempre, pero the verified oldest person was only 122 years old.

yung mga 300, 600, or 900 years old, mga fantastical claims yan


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:36 pm 
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japsr wrote:
paktokyo wrote:
If god is so powerful... bakit nia kelangan ng flood to kill all the people... bakit di na lang nia pinatay by a flick of his fingers. Mas madali.

while it is possible for God of the Bible hindi pa ba act of divine power para sau ung flood at ark?

for believers, God's ways is higher than man's ways.

atheists are living according to their own ways, for they are the god of themselves.

ayaw silang maniwalang may diyos, pero pinapakialaman ang gawa at paraan ng diyos. very ironic di ba?

"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." -Isaiah 55:9

What is divine about the flood? He killed all people and you call yhat divine? What is divine is if he was able to change the ways of those people. Pinatay na nia yung mga yun... tapos itatapon pa nia sila sa impyerno. Ano ang divine doon? Double kill.

What is so divine about the ark? Noah made it for 100 years. You call that divine? Pag ginawa nia in 1 day. Yun ang divine.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:51 pm 
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It's hard to believe that the worldwide flood happened.

Set aside, a replica of the ark is being built in Kentucky, worth 150 million dollars.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/ ... 0A20140301

http://arkencounter.com/

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This picture in Big Ark in Dordrecht, Netherlands

It's kinda hard to fit thousands of animals there, not to mention other problems like storing food, sanitation etc.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:55 pm 
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Eh yung flood, wala bang replica? :biglaugh:

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paktokyo wrote:
japsr wrote:
paktokyo wrote:
If god is so powerful... bakit nia kelangan ng flood to kill all the people... bakit di na lang nia pinatay by a flick of his fingers. Mas madali.

while it is possible for God of the Bible hindi pa ba act of divine power para sau ung flood at ark?

for believers, God's ways is higher than man's ways.

atheists are living according to their own ways, for they are the god of themselves.

ayaw silang maniwalang may diyos, pero pinapakialaman ang gawa at paraan ng diyos. very ironic di ba?

"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." -Isaiah 55:9

What is divine about the flood? He killed all people and you call yhat divine? What is divine is if he was able to change the ways of those people. Pinatay na nia yung mga yun... tapos itatapon pa nia sila sa impyerno. Ano ang divine doon? Double kill.

What is so divine about the ark? Noah made it for 100 years. You call that divine? Pag ginawa nia in 1 day. Yun ang divine.

i am not talking about those who died, thousands of people are dying every minute, believer & non-believer, the same thing will happen in generations to come. sinners will go to hell, the justified heavenward. as i have said for us believers God's ways & thoughts are higher than men. it took much time for noah & family to build the ark, they were amateurs, the titanic was built by professionals, & you know what happened. God created the heavens & the earth in 6 days, naniwala ka ba? the wicked generation of noah had plenty of time to come to their senses & repent. ganun din mangyayari sa ating panahon, lahat ay may pagkakataong magsisi at magpakumbaba upang ganap na mapatawad at di mabulid sa impyerno.

unjust ba ang Diyos kapag itapon Niya sa hell ang mga unrepentant atheists? it's our choice. believe it or not.

maski sa batas ng tao, ang mga masasama ay kinukulong, sa ibang bansa death penalty pa.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:44 am 
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japsr wrote:
paktokyo wrote:
If god is so powerful... bakit nia kelangan ng flood to kill all the people... bakit di na lang nia pinatay by a flick of his fingers. Mas madali.

while it is possible for God of the Bible hindi pa ba act of divine power para sau ung flood at ark?

for believers, God's ways is higher than man's ways.

atheists are living according to their own ways, for they are the god of themselves.

ayaw silang maniwalang may diyos, pero pinapakialaman ang gawa at paraan ng diyos. very ironic di ba?

"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." -Isaiah 55:9

No, atheists are living in reality. You believers are the ones living your own ways by inventing your god so you have a dik to kneel to.

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japsr wrote:
bugoyparin wrote:
boknoy the fighting ball wrote:

sa history ng tao (yung valid at scientifically documented) mas mahaba dapat ang buhay ng present day na tao kaysa mga ninuno natin due to better food, medicine, shelter etc. and not the other way around.

Pero walang impossible sa diyos, sabi nga ni Mang Gorio: God's Magic :lol:



mas naniniwala akong mas mahaba ang buhay ng tao noon...

mas fresh ang pagkain noon at hindi cultured ng kung ano anong pataba...

sa karne naman e native and natural... hindi crossbreed, scientifically and engineered na kung ano ano ang pinapakain

para maging madcow at birdflu...

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


naman, puro natural yan.

kaya pansin mo yung mga probinsiyano noon mas humahaba ang buhay.

ang lolo ko halos 90 anyos na umaakyat pa ng mataas na puno ng mga niyog para umani ng favorite niyang 'tuba juice". :)

how about your lolos guys? :lol:


Show some statistics.how many people in your lolo's time can do what your lolo can do at age 90?. Besides, I bet my balls your lolo can't find his birth certificate. It's easy to claim about anything, but a verifiable proof is more credible.

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JJ, learn to distinguish jokes pre. Dude you just quoted is just kidding.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:35 am 
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paktokyo wrote:
JJ, learn to distinguish jokes pre. Dude you just quoted is just kidding.

Ah ok.it's really hard to tell if it's a joke when some people here believe there was a person back then who lived to 900 years old that built the ark that can fit thousands of animals. 90 yrs old who can climb a tree is not that far off from reality.

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japsr wrote:
paktokyo wrote:
japsr wrote:
while it is possible for God of the Bible hindi pa ba act of divine power para sau ung flood at ark?

for believers, God's ways is higher than man's ways.

atheists are living according to their own ways, for they are the god of themselves.

ayaw silang maniwalang may diyos, pero pinapakialaman ang gawa at paraan ng diyos. very ironic di ba?

"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." -Isaiah 55:9

What is divine about the flood? He killed all people and you call yhat divine? What is divine is if he was able to change the ways of those people. Pinatay na nia yung mga yun... tapos itatapon pa nia sila sa impyerno. Ano ang divine doon? Double kill.

What is so divine about the ark? Noah made it for 100 years. You call that divine? Pag ginawa nia in 1 day. Yun ang divine.

i am not talking about those who died, thousands of people are dying every minute, believer & non-believer, the same thing will happen in generations to come. sinners will go to hell, the justified heavenward. as i have said for us believers God's ways & thoughts are higher than men. it took much time for noah & family to build the ark, they were amateurs, the titanic was built by professionals, & you know what happened. God created the heavens & the earth in 6 days, naniwala ka ba? the wicked generation of noah had plenty of time to come to their senses & repent. ganun din mangyayari sa ating panahon, lahat ay may pagkakataong magsisi at magpakumbaba upang ganap na mapatawad at di mabulid sa impyerno.

unjust ba ang Diyos kapag itapon Niya sa hell ang mga unrepentant atheists? it's our choice. believe it or not.

maski sa batas ng tao, ang mga masasama ay kinukulong, sa ibang bansa death penalty pa.

I have more faith in the law of men than the law of god. Man's thoughts are progressing while that of god does not. Man has found the decency to become nondiscriminant to homosexuals, while god has not. God commits genocide and christians justifies it. Hitler, Pol Pot, et al committed the same and man condemned them. Man finds ways for cures of illnesses, god is just sitting there in his high chair. God created Yolanda and killed/left without food and shelter the people of tacloban. Man took care of those unfortunate fellows.

You are more able than your god. I have more faith in you than to your god. Your ways are more divine than his.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:32 am 
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boknoy the fighting ball wrote:
^^ not according to documented%20history though

aba gusto ko ring mabuhay ng hanggang 900 years or more, I want to see a world na lahat ng tao na-attained na ang highest level of knowledge at hindi na bounded ng archaic beliefs


you may not believe in the bible... but what is written there is a DOCUMENTED HISTORY...


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