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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:41 pm 
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` kahit naman inglis, mahaba rin..,,

sensya na pubring, nxt tym images na lang...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:29 pm 
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Dapat sinabi mo sa sarili mo yan dahil ikaw ang nag post ng galing sa wiki. Doon ako kumuha ng argumento sa post mo tapos sasabihin mong di dapat paniwalaan yon? kundi ba naman saksakan ng kaengotan ang pag-iisip nyong mga atis. Wala akong post na galing sa wiki, sayo galing yon. I check mo mag back read ka.

Next time basahin mo muna ang ipo post mo wag po pa dalos-dalos. Wag mag sabi ng last post ko na ito tapos nakakatatlong pages ka na after mong sabihin na last post mo na yon.. Hindi firm ang mind mo sir. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:27 pm 
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On 26 November 2012, BBC News conducted a short investigation about the authenticity of the codices with Dr Peter Thonemann . .."I'm as certain as it is possible to be that this entire body of codices are modern fakes. I would stake my academic reputation on it" adding that "all of the codices that have appeared in the media in the past year or so are products of the same modern workshop — they’ve all sorts of similarities in style, fabric, and content. It seems absolutely clear that every single one of these documents is a modern fake -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Lead_Codices


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nameelosopo nalang yan mang zorro
nag bluff noong una akala dimo binasa iyong post mo
nag resort sa pakengkoy

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:35 pm 
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Bogbog yata si Zorro.



Kawawa naman si sir pa kengkoy pa lang bogbog na :lol:

Naive yang padalos-dalos mag pasya. Amateur na amateur ang dating mo sir.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:39 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:21 pm 
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Unang Final post ko na ito. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:17 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:57 pm 
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Eto ang Pangalawang Final Post ko:

When you are fact checking ancient writings like the Bible, maling-mali yung kukuha ka sa mga biased at mga basurang site. What will you get there? Of course basura rin at mga one sided na opinions, hindi facts ang makukuha mo.

Kung patas at honest kang tao, you need to know, first of all the established procedure/criteria to verify ancient writings, ito ay ang mga sumusunod. Mag research ka, you will find out that Criterion of Multiple Attestation, Criterion of Embarrassment and Criterion of Coherence are the criteria used in historical research. Now if you put the Bible on the same degree to verify ancient writings? TBH Bible is a thousand more historically reliable than any other ancient books. Kundi papasa ang bible sa criteria na yan siguradong walang papasa na Ancient books.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:33 am 
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Tama na po, bogbog sarado na naman si Zorro pasinsyahan mo na magpapasko pa naman .


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:56 am 
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Archaeologist Uses Holy Bible to Locate Where Jesus Was Really Crucified
Andre Mitchell 15 October 2016

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The article/story was printed in the christian site -http://www.christiantoday.com/article/archaeologist.uses.holy.bible.to.locate.where.jesus.was.really.crucified/98072.htm

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An archaeologist has used the Holy Bible to locate where Jesus Christ was really crucified. He found
an area different from what has traditionally been believed to be the site of the crucifixion.

Robert Cornuke, a known Biblical investigator and author of various books linking the Holy Bible
to archaeology
, set out to challenge long-held beliefs that Jesus was crucified and died in the place
now known as the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and Gordon's Calvary, both located in Jerusalem in Israel.

After his research, Cornuke suggested that the crucifixion was not done in these places. He floated
the idea that Jesus Christ died on the cross in the Palestinian-occupied Silwan Village, which is about
600 feet east of the City of David in Jerusalem.


"By using the compass of solid evidence, Bob Cornuke charts a course for discovery that will
thrill the willing Bible explorer who is on a quest for truth. Don't let tradition get in the way
of truth,
" Matsen said.

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*Bob Cornuke is an American writer and president of the Bible Archaeology Search
and Exploration Institute/BASE

paalala - basahing mabuti at intindihin.:wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:51 pm 
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Ok, so again what is the relevant of this news ^^^ against the Bible? Binasa mo ba ng mabuti itong post mo ulit? Remember the subject of this thread is “Fact checking the Bible”. Ayon sa post mo sinunod ng Archeologist yung bible (I repeat again, sinunod niya ang nakasulat sa Bible, sinunod..sinunod..) kaya sabi nya ito ang tamang location ng Crucifiction ni Jesus which is different sa traditional na paniniwala ng mga early Christians 2000 years ago. Assuming na tama ang claim nitong nag iisang tao na ito against millions of people that held the tradition since the start. Sino ang mali ang mga tao noon o iyong bible? :?

Di naman puedeng magsalita yung bibliya para sabihin mali yang lugar na yan, hindi yan ang ibig kong sabihin? Nakuha mo ba? Ikaw talaga sir sarili mong thread hina hijack mo e. (Dapat ang title mo dyan "Fact checking the Christians") Yan ang sinasabi ko pag may nakita kang kasiraan against Christians excited kang makapanira kahit di mo naiintindihan yung nababasa mo. May paalala ka pa naman na basahing mabuti at intindihin.. :(


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:21 pm 
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Tips ko lang sir:

1. Marami ng palpak na predictions ang taong ito (Robert Cornuke) example…http://templemountlocation.com/bobCornukeTheoryDisputed.html

2. Why do you easily believed sa mga ganitong balita? Mag google ka hundreds of different versions ang mababasa mon a halos ganito. Kesyo hindi yun ang temple ni David, hindi yun ang Cross, hindi yun ang Bethsaida, etc.. But all of these did not in any way discredit the authenticity of the Bible. Di ba?

3. Alam mo kung sino ang mayroong mas matinding galit sa Christians? Walang iba, kundi ang mga Jews noong panahon ni Kristo at yung mga sumunod sa kanila couple of centuries after Christ. Kung mayroong mga taong gustong i down ang Christians sila yon. Kayong mga atis wala kayo sa kalingkingan nila. Gigil na gigil ang mga Jews noon na mahanapan ng butas at maidiscredit ang Christians. Mag post ka dito na ang author ay Early Jew at dini discredit ang nakasulat sa bibliya, mas kapani-paniwala kasi sila dahil nabuhay sila sa panahon ni Christ at mas galit sila kaya yun ang mas reliable na paninira. Mas magandang seryosohin yon.

4. Kung walang objection ang mga Jews noong mga unang panahon, mga living witness about the location of crucifiction pano ko maniwala na sa taong 2016 may nagsabi na mali ang location ng crucifiction site ni Jesus?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:05 am 
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Naku Zorro sabi ko na kasi...ayan bugbog sarado na.

Paalala lang rob, thread nya 'to. Pwede syang mag-hijack at pwede rin syang magdebate sa kanyang sarili. Kitang kita mo naman yung mga post nya...may thread nga sa kabila kung sino na ang nanalo dito Zorro vs Zorro kaya mas mabuti manood ka na lang. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:14 am 
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Naku Zorro sabi ko na kasi...ayan bugbog sarado na

`natutuwa naman ako at busy ka dito jkros.., and lets just be objective and focus on
the subject or article topic at hand, make the discussion interesting.

Golgotha/calvary is the 'traditional' site of yeshua's crucifixion, according to the
gospels and its supposedly in jerusalem very near the walls of the city.

There's nothing wrong in 'traditional beliefs' when the matter of faith is concerned.

'hangang ngayun nga, the Transfiguration Mountain is still a mystery, not yet truly
correctly identified, but thats another interesting story...' :wink:

Cornuke says its not accurate, and he's a christian archaeologist. There are other researchers
and scholars who also questions the traditional biblical site and will present their findings them
when a credible 'argument/position' supporting tradition is presented.

In the Torah and jewish tradition, the burial grounds or necropolis is situated outside the
city of jerusalem's first-third walls.

a. was Golgotha or Calvary, located in the now today's Holy Sepulchre church but outside the
the first, second and third walls constructed by jews per biblical sources ?

b. was golgotha/calvary traditionally located further out of jerusalem, outside/beyond the necropolis
perhaps in the old Silwan village ?

c. is today's church of holy sepulche location standing on a traditional jewish burial ground or
a necropolis and claimed today as the location of the yeshua's crucifixion mound ?



so many questions, skepticsm.., the answers...?

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