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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:44 am 
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zorro05 wrote:
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Naku Zorro sabi ko na kasi...ayan bugbog sarado na

`natutuwa naman ako at busy ka dito jkros.., and lets just be objective and focus on
the subject or article topic at hand, make the discussion interesting.

Golgotha/calvary is the 'traditional' site of yeshua's crucifixion, according to the
gospels and its supposedly in jerusalem very near the walls of the city.

There's nothing wrong in 'traditional beliefs' when the matter of faith is concerned.

'hangang ngayun nga, the Transfiguration Mountain is still a mystery, not yet truly
correctly identified, but thats another interesting story...' :wink:

Cornuke says its not accurate, and he's a christian archaeologist. There are other researchers
and scholars who also questions the traditional biblical site and will present their findings them
when a credible 'argument/position' supporting tradition is presented.

In the Torah and jewish tradition, the burial grounds or necropolis is situated outside the
city of jerusalem's first-third walls.

a. was Golgotha or Calvary, located in the now today's Holy Sepulchre church but outside the
the first, second and third walls constructed by jews per biblical sources ?

b. was golgotha/calvary traditionally located further out of jerusalem, outside/beyond the necropolis
perhaps in the old Silwan village ?

c. is today's church of holy sepulche location standing on a traditional jewish burial ground or
a necropolis and claimed today as the location of the yeshua's crucifixion mound ?



so many questions, skepticsm.., the answers...?

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What the Bible says about the crucifixion location? It doesn't really matter now where is the specific location of the crucifixion or the tomb. The most important thing is that it did happen around that place at that time. There's no witness alive today to pinpoint where it is considering the 2000 long years past but since traditions and structures were built around that small area will prove that somewhere the location is real based on history and tradition. Fact check/ 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:02 am 
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` okey jkros..., you dont need 'witness' to pinpoint accuracy
in location or structures but simply accurate historical recordings,
and factual basis, proof/evidences.

unfortunately, holy books and gospels are not/never 'historical books'.

IF its a traditional belief, then, its simply a matter of Faith.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:24 am 
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Zorro the Bible is the history book of Israel. Everyone who's not a Hebrew has no right to say a thing about their history if it's true or not. Fact check/ :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:38 am 
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` correction/ to be more precise, pare jk ..,(may I...)

Its the OT or the Hebrew text that includes the Torah as well as the Talmud- Mishnah and Gemara.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:11 pm 
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zorro05 wrote:
` correction/ to be more precise, pare jk ..,(may I...)

Its the OT or the Hebrew text that includes the Torah as well as the Talmud- Mishnah and Gemara.

:D


You know what I mean their history and their is no other history book that time lined the world history for 5000 years. Fact check/


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:59 pm 
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jjcross wrote:
zorro05 wrote:
` correction/ to be more precise, pare jk ..,(may I...)

Its the OT or the Hebrew text that includes the Torah as well as the Talmud- Mishnah and Gemara.

:D


You know what I mean their history and their is no other history book that time lined the world history for 5000 years. Fact check/

` I'm not sure exactly what you mean, jk.

I guess, you must have forgotten that the Sumerian, Egyptian, the Indus valley civilizations are
far more advanced and much earlier than the hebrew culture from which the Israelites and later
the jews came out of. Even China's civilization, from its ancient written accounts, is much earlier.

I think you need to review your ancient history.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:57 am 
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Really! Let's try fact checking their time line then. :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:46 am 
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` ok , thats good.

Present your timeline of Israel, per your source and will
cross-ref. it with other references.

pls. cite the source.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:01 pm 
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SAHIH INTERNATIONAL - surah 4:157 -

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger
of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble
him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of
it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.



` They were right all along.

but, a troll doesn't/will never know that. and a dummy too.

:lol: '',,

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:33 pm 
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di sya natulungan at nabogbog sarado sa pagiging atis ngayon sa muslim naman nagpakampi. :lol:

ano ba talaga stand mo?

maawa ka naman sa sarili mo, ginagawa kang katatawanan ng mga tao ditto.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:33 pm 
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Mahilig ka pala sa etits^^^
Nagcocompile ka pa talaga ng mga pics ha.


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:lol: ''..,,

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:59 pm 
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Dami mong nakatabing pictures ng etits ha. :lol:

May collection ka ng ibat-ibang hugis.


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robwisdom wrote:
Dami mong nakatabing pictures ng etits ha. :lol:

May collection ka ng ibat-ibang hugis.


umayos ka kasi mang rob para kausapin ka ng maayos ni mang zorro

happy holidays mga paps :D

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