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nasa israel yata talaga si mang durian eh kaya alam talaga nya yang klima at panahon jan
maganda ba jan mang durian? :D

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ok itong article sa livescience, dagdag na kumento sa topic -

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When Was Jesus Born?
By Joseph Castro, Live Science Contributor | January 30, 2014 11:09am ET

Although millions of people celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on Dec. 25, most scholars agree that he wasn't born on that day, or even in the year 1 A.D.

Researchers believe the Roman Catholic Church settled on Dec. 25 for many reasons, such as that date's ties to the winter solstice and Saturnalia, a festival dedicated to the Roman deity Saturn. By choosing this day to celebrate Jesus' birthday, the church could co-opt the popular pagan festival, as well as the winter celebrations of other pagan religions.

But nobody really knows exactly when Jesus was born.

Some scholars think that he was born between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C., based partly on the biblical story of Herod the Great. Not long before Herod's demise, which is believed to have occurred in 4 B.C., the ruler of Judea supposedly ordered the death of all male infants who were under the age of two and lived in the vicinity of Bethlehem, in an attempt to kill Jesus.

But historians disagree about Herod's actual year of death. What's more, the horrific mass infanticide is legend, not fact, Reza Aslan, a biblical scholar and author of "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth" (Random House, 2013), told PolicyMic.

To pinpoint Jesus' birth year, other scholars have tried to correlate the "Star of Bethlehem," which supposedly heralded Jesus' birth, with actual astronomical events. For example, in a 1991 article in the Quarterly Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society, astronomer Colin Humphreys proposed that the fabled star was actually a slow-moving comet, which Chinese observers recorded in 5 B.C.

Scholars also debate the month of Jesus' birth. In 2008, astronomer Dave Reneke argued that Jesus was born in the summer. The Star of Bethlehem, Reneke told New Scientist, may have been Venus and Jupiter coming together to form a bright light in the sky. Using computer models, Reneke determined that this rare event occurred on June 17, in the year 2 B.C.

Other researchers have claimed that a similar conjunction, one between Saturn and Jupiter, occurred in October of 7 B.C., making Jesus an autumn baby.

Theologians have also suggested that Jesus was born in the spring, based on the biblical narrative that shepherds were watching over their flocks in the fields on the night of Jesus' birth — something they would have done in the spring, not the winter.

Follow Joseph Castro on Twitter. Follow us @livescience, Facebook & Google+.

http://www.livescience.com/42976-when-w ... -born.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:06 pm 
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most probably Jesus was autumn baby, base on biblical narrative na shepperd tend to their sheeps at night. thia was the perfect season na magpastol ng tupa sa araw at gabi which obviously di nila pwede gawin pag winter. mang durian knows this he is living there.

but i won't argue with mang rob, just giving opinions not to debate, he has his own beliefs, I'll let him be.


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Thank you Mang Rod. Correction lang that is not a belief, it comes with data and reasoning. I present evidences, those are not from Catholic sources.
But then ancient history is not 100% mathematical certitude, probability lang but since most of the data is from the enemy of early Christians (Jew), :. it is more than enough for me to believed.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:20 pm 
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It was placed there for convenience...

one important thing to remember is that there's a day in a year that Jesus was born...

on the part that if Jesus is happy that his "birthday" is celebrated on the wrong date is a different story...

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ok itong article sa livescience, dagdag na kumento sa topic -

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When Was Jesus Born?
By Joseph Castro, Live Science Contributor | January 30, 2014 11:09am ET

Although millions of people celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on Dec. 25, most scholars agree that he wasn't born on that day, or even in the year 1 A.D.

Researchers believe the Roman Catholic Church settled on Dec. 25 for many reasons, such as that date's ties to the winter solstice and Saturnalia, a festival dedicated to the Roman deity Saturn. By choosing this day to celebrate Jesus' birthday, the church could co-opt the popular pagan festival, as well as the winter celebrations of other pagan religions.

But nobody really knows exactly when Jesus was born.

Some scholars think that he was born between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C., based partly on the biblical story of Herod the Great. Not long before Herod's demise, which is believed to have occurred in 4 B.C., the ruler of Judea supposedly ordered the death of all male infants who were under the age of two and lived in the vicinity of Bethlehem, in an attempt to kill Jesus.

But historians disagree about Herod's actual year of death. What's more, the horrific mass infanticide is legend, not fact, Reza Aslan, a biblical scholar and author of "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth" (Random House, 2013), told PolicyMic.

To pinpoint Jesus' birth year, other scholars have tried to correlate the "Star of Bethlehem," which supposedly heralded Jesus' birth, with actual astronomical events. For example, in a 1991 article in the Quarterly Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society, astronomer Colin Humphreys proposed that the fabled star was actually a slow-moving comet, which Chinese observers recorded in 5 B.C.

Scholars also debate the month of Jesus' birth. In 2008, astronomer Dave Reneke argued that Jesus was born in the summer. The Star of Bethlehem, Reneke told New Scientist, may have been Venus and Jupiter coming together to form a bright light in the sky. Using computer models, Reneke determined that this rare event occurred on June 17, in the year 2 B.C.

Other researchers have claimed that a similar conjunction, one between Saturn and Jupiter, occurred in October of 7 B.C., making Jesus an autumn baby.

Theologians have also suggested that Jesus was born in the spring, based on the biblical narrative that shepherds were watching over their flocks in the fields on the night of Jesus' birth — something they would have done in the spring, not the winter.

Follow Joseph Castro on Twitter. Follow us @livescience, Facebook & Google+.

http://www.livescience.com/42976-when-w ... -born.html

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from jewish encyclopedia. - JESUS OF NAZARETH.
By: Joseph Jacobs, Kaufmann Kohler, Richard Gottheil, Samuel Krauss

Founder of Christianity; born at Nazareth about 2 B.C. (according to Luke iii. 23); executed
at Jerusalem 14th of Nisan, 3789 (March or April, 29 C.E.).

In Catholic encyclopedia. -
As Herod killed the children up to two years old, in order to destroy the new born King of the Jews,
we are led to believe that Jesus may have been born A.U.C. 747, 748, 749 (Ab urbe condita).

The Catholic Encyclopedia gives a brief historical analysis and concludes that Jesus was most
probably born in one of the years A.U.C. 747, 748 or 749, which is 7, 6, or 5 BC (A.U.C. =
Ab Urbe Condita, i.e. from the foundation of the city, which is Rome, founded 753 BC).

In Ency. Britannica -
Jesus, also called Jesus Christ, Jesus of Galilee, or Jesus of Nazareth (born c. 6–4 bc,
Bethlehem
—died c. ad 30, Jerusalem), religious leader revered in Christianity, one of
the world’s major religions

other sources --
Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of
the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-
a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.—Luke 3:23.

Shepherds were “living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks.”
(Luke 2:8) The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from
“the week before the Passover [late March]” through mid-November. It then adds: “They passed
the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas,
in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields.



CONCLUSION and PROBABILITY -

- Jesus exact birthdate/year is unknown but all are speculations. birthplace is conflicting and
death year is likewise murky.
- no reputable writer nor scholar, in Jesus time, ever wrote about him or his 'activities'
much less his 'biography'.
-Jesus' followers or 'apostles, disciples' during his time wrote about him but conveniently
forgot the date of his birth and death, considering that all '12 apostles' had their own 'Gospels'
written after their names.

if Jesus was born on December and the Gospels says that 'sheeps and shepherds were out on the fields',
probably -both sheeps and shepherds, were wearing heated blanckets, thick leather blazers
and jackets or heated overcoats and riding in sleds. or, the gospel story is a fantasy.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:05 pm 
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buti pa ang mga vikings at romans may naiwang siguradong ebidensya
at patunay na namuhay talaga aside sa mga writings

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:52 am 
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studstar wrote:
ok itong article sa livescience, dagdag na kumento sa topic -

---

When Was Jesus Born?
By Joseph Castro, Live Science Contributor | January 30, 2014 11:09am ET

Although millions of people celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on Dec. 25, most scholars agree that he wasn't born on that day, or even in the year 1 A.D.

Researchers believe the Roman Catholic Church settled on Dec. 25 for many reasons, such as that date's ties to the winter solstice and Saturnalia, a festival dedicated to the Roman deity Saturn. By choosing this day to celebrate Jesus' birthday, the church could co-opt the popular pagan festival, as well as the winter celebrations of other pagan religions.

But nobody really knows exactly when Jesus was born.

Some scholars think that he was born between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C., based partly on the biblical story of Herod the Great. Not long before Herod's demise, which is believed to have occurred in 4 B.C., the ruler of Judea supposedly ordered the death of all male infants who were under the age of two and lived in the vicinity of Bethlehem, in an attempt to kill Jesus.

But historians disagree about Herod's actual year of death. What's more, the horrific mass infanticide is legend, not fact, Reza Aslan, a biblical scholar and author of "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth" (Random House, 2013), told PolicyMic.

To pinpoint Jesus' birth year, other scholars have tried to correlate the "Star of Bethlehem," which supposedly heralded Jesus' birth, with actual astronomical events. For example, in a 1991 article in the Quarterly Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society, astronomer Colin Humphreys proposed that the fabled star was actually a slow-moving comet, which Chinese observers recorded in 5 B.C.

Scholars also debate the month of Jesus' birth. In 2008, astronomer Dave Reneke argued that Jesus was born in the summer. The Star of Bethlehem, Reneke told New Scientist, may have been Venus and Jupiter coming together to form a bright light in the sky. Using computer models, Reneke determined that this rare event occurred on June 17, in the year 2 B.C.

Other researchers have claimed that a similar conjunction, one between Saturn and Jupiter, occurred in October of 7 B.C., making Jesus an autumn baby.

Theologians have also suggested that Jesus was born in the spring, based on the biblical narrative that shepherds were watching over their flocks in the fields on the night of Jesus' birth — something they would have done in the spring, not the winter.

Follow Joseph Castro on Twitter. Follow us @livescience, Facebook & Google+.

http://www.livescience.com/42976-when-w ... -born.html

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from jewish encyclopedia. - JESUS OF NAZARETH.
By: Joseph Jacobs, Kaufmann Kohler, Richard Gottheil, Samuel Krauss

Founder of Christianity; born at Nazareth about 2 B.C. (according to Luke iii. 23); executed
at Jerusalem 14th of Nisan, 3789 (March or April, 29 C.E.).

In Catholic encyclopedia. -
As Herod killed the children up to two years old, in order to destroy the new born King of the Jews,
we are led to believe that Jesus may have been born A.U.C. 747, 748, 749 (Ab urbe condita).

The Catholic Encyclopedia gives a brief historical analysis and concludes that Jesus was most
probably born in one of the years A.U.C. 747, 748 or 749, which is 7, 6, or 5 BC (A.U.C. =
Ab Urbe Condita, i.e. from the foundation of the city, which is Rome, founded 753 BC).

In Ency. Britannica -
Jesus, also called Jesus Christ, Jesus of Galilee, or Jesus of Nazareth (born c. 6–4 bc,
Bethlehem
—died c. ad 30, Jerusalem), religious leader revered in Christianity, one of
the world’s major religions

other sources --
Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of
the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-
a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.—Luke 3:23.

Shepherds were “living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks.”
(Luke 2:8) The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from
“the week before the Passover [late March]” through mid-November. It then adds: “They passed
the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas,
in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields.



CONCLUSION and PROBABILITY -

- Jesus exact birthdate/year is unknown but all are speculations. birthplace is conflicting and
death year is likewise murky.
- no reputable writer nor scholar, in Jesus time, ever wrote about him or his 'activities'
much less his 'biography'.
-Jesus' followers or 'apostles, disciples' during his time wrote about him but conveniently
forgot the date of his birth and death, considering that all '12 apostles' had their own 'Gospels'
written after their names.

if Jesus was born on December and the Gospels says that 'sheeps and shepherds were out on the fields',
probably -both sheeps and shepherds, were wearing heated blanckets, thick leather blazers
and jackets or heated overcoats and riding in sleds. or, the gospel story is a fantasy.


:D



Just to add, In the late medieval period, there appeared Arthurian legends that the young Jesus had been in Britain.[5][not in citation given] In the 19th and 20th centuries theories began to emerge that between the ages of 12 and 30 Jesus had visited Kashmir, or had studied with the Essenes in the Judea desert. Modern mainstream Christian scholarship has generally rejected these theories and holds that nothing is known about this time period in the life of Jesus

Modern scholarship holds that there is little historical information to determine what happened during those years

WIKI...


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