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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:25 am 
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Unheralded Japanese challenger Yusuke Kobori (23-2-1, 12 KOs), 135, impressively captured the WBA lightweight belt as he came off the deck in the second round, caught defending champ Jose Alfaro (20-4-1NC, 18 KOs), 134.25, with a vicious left hook to drop him back and halted the Nicaraguan at 2:08 of the third round on Monday in Tokyo, Japan.

some folks say that Randy could only beat Japs so now is the time to have a title shot and reign as lightweight champion with Pacman.

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:26 am 
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mr.takamura wrote:
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Unheralded Japanese challenger Yusuke Kobori (23-2-1, 12 KOs), 135, impressively captured the WBA lightweight belt as he came off the deck in the second round, caught defending champ Jose Alfaro (20-4-1NC, 18 KOs), 134.25, with a vicious left hook to drop him back and halted the Nicaraguan at 2:08 of the third round on Monday in Tokyo, Japan.

some folks say that Randy could only beat Japs so now is the time to have a title shot and reign as lightweight champion with Pacman.


what? how many WBA lightweight champion are there? i thought Nate Campbell is the WBA lightweight champion? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:31 am 
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lbcya99 wrote:
mr.takamura wrote:
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Unheralded Japanese challenger Yusuke Kobori (23-2-1, 12 KOs), 135, impressively captured the WBA lightweight belt as he came off the deck in the second round, caught defending champ Jose Alfaro (20-4-1NC, 18 KOs), 134.25, with a vicious left hook to drop him back and halted the Nicaraguan at 2:08 of the third round on Monday in Tokyo, Japan.

some folks say that Randy could only beat Japs so now is the time to have a title shot and reign as lightweight champion with Pacman.


what? how many WBA lightweight champion are there? i thought Nate Campbell is the WBA lightweight champion? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Nate Camell is supah champion!

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:46 am 
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lbcya99 wrote:
mr.takamura wrote:
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Unheralded Japanese challenger Yusuke Kobori (23-2-1, 12 KOs), 135, impressively captured the WBA lightweight belt as he came off the deck in the second round, caught defending champ Jose Alfaro (20-4-1NC, 18 KOs), 134.25, with a vicious left hook to drop him back and halted the Nicaraguan at 2:08 of the third round on Monday in Tokyo, Japan.

some folks say that Randy could only beat Japs so now is the time to have a title shot and reign as lightweight champion with Pacman.


what? how many WBA lightweight champion are there? i thought Nate Campbell is the WBA lightweight champion? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:



It cud be a regional belt!!


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skipper5398 wrote:

It cud be a regional belt!!


no its like the WBA regular belt like AJ banal is fighting for when christian mijares unified with munoz

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:05 am 
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Dagul_Denboy wrote:
skipper5398 wrote:

It cud be a regional belt!!


no its like the WBA regular belt like AJ banal is fighting for when christian mijares unified with munoz


ang panget ng WBA... trans: great belt...

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:13 am 
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All I know is that WBA is not as prestigious as WBC, WBO and IBF but perhaps more acknowledged than IBO and WBF. But yes, I'm confused with the WBA belt held by campbell which is supposedly a ligitimate WBA lightweight title and not regional. Perhaps some boxing experts or enthusiasts here in pacland know the technicallity. Anyone? I wish quinito henson is on this forum


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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:10 pm 
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Too many WBA belts... Super Champion (Nate Campbell), Champion (Yusuke Kobiri)...

Is this similar to the Interim Belts?

Next thing you know there'd be:
a. "Almost Champion" Belt
b. "Could be Champion but avoided" Belt
c. "In my opinion he should be the Champion" Belt
and...
d. "Should be Champion but his promoter $uck$" Belt
:? :? :?

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:14 pm 
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ycg wrote:
Too many WBA belts... Super Champion (Nate Campbell), Champion (Yusuke Kobiri)...

Is this similar to the Interim Belts?

Next thing you know there'd be:
a. "Almost Champion" Belt
b. "Could be Champion but avoided" Belt
c. "In my opinion he should be the Champion" Belt
and...
d. "Should be Champion but his promoter $uck$" Belt
:? :? :?


lol :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:32 pm 
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devondenom wrote:
All I know is that WBA is not as prestigious as WBC, WBO and IBF but perhaps more acknowledged than IBO and WBF. But yes, I'm confused with the WBA belt held by campbell which is supposedly a ligitimate WBA lightweight title and not regional. Perhaps some boxing experts or enthusiasts here in pacland know the technicallity. Anyone? I wish quinito henson is on this forum


Here's how the WBA goes with its championship belts. If the WBA champion acquires another belt from the WBC, IBF and/or WBO then the "regular" WBA title is vacated. Here's how the WBA defines them:
  • If the WBA champ has one more belt (2 total) - Unified Champion
  • If the WBA champ has two more belts (3 total) - Undisputed Champion
  • All 4 belts - Super Champion

Currently, there are 4 WBA "non-regular" champions:
  • David Haye - WBA Unified Cruiserweight champ (with WBO; was Undisputed since March 2008 until he relinquished the WBC a couple of weeks ago; Firat Arslan of Germany is the "regular" champ
  • Joe Clazaghe - WBA Undisputed Super Middleweight champ (wih WBC & WBO); Anthony Mundine of Australia is the "regular" champ
  • Nate Campbell - WBA Undisputed Lightweight champ (with WBO & IBF); Yusuke Kobori of Japan just won the "regular" title from Nicaragua's Jose Alfaro last weekend
  • Christian Mijares - WBA Unified Super Flyweight champ (with WBC); the vacant "regular" title will be the one AJ Banal is going for

Hope that answers your question devondenom. For more info, look at the attached link. That is the WBA World Championships Regulations document. In page 13 you'll find the same thing I mentioned above. From page 9 to 13 you'll get more details.
http://www.wbaonline.com/legal/LegalSta ... nships.pdf

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:38 pm 
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Grammar_Stalker wrote:
devondenom wrote:
All I know is that WBA is not as prestigious as WBC, WBO and IBF but perhaps more acknowledged than IBO and WBF. But yes, I'm confused with the WBA belt held by campbell which is supposedly a ligitimate WBA lightweight title and not regional. Perhaps some boxing experts or enthusiasts here in pacland know the technicallity. Anyone? I wish quinito henson is on this forum


Here's how the WBA goes with its championship belts. If the WBA champion acquires another belt from the WBC, IBF and/or WBO then the "regular" WBA title is vacated. Here's how the WBA defines them:
  • If the WBA champ has one more belt (2 total) - Unified Champion
  • If the WBA champ has two more belts (3 total) - Undisputed Champion
  • All 4 belts - Super Champion

Currently, there are 4 WBA "non-regular" champions:
  • David Haye - WBA Unified Cruiserweight champ (with WBO; was Undisputed since March 2008 until he relinquished the WBC a couple of weeks ago; Firat Arslan of Germany is the "regular" champ
  • Joe Clazaghe - WBA Undisputed Super Middleweight champ (wih WBC & WBO); Anthony Mundine of Australia is the "regular" champ
  • Nate Campbell - WBA Undisputed Lightweight champ (with WBO & IBF); Yusuke Kobori of Japan just won the "regular" title from Nicaragua's Jose Alfaro last weekend
  • Christian Mijares - WBA Unified Super Flyweight champ (with WBC); the vacant "regular" title will be the one AJ Banal is going for

Hope that answers your question devondenom. For more info, look at the attached link. That is the WBA World Championships Regulations document. In page 13 you'll find the same thing I mentioned above. From page 9 to 13 you'll get more details.
http://www.wbaonline.com/legal/LegalSta ... nships.pdf


Well, this clears up everything.

I would still like to propose they add the belts I suggested :lol:
How about if you get a WWE belt with your WBO belt :lol: Mayweather can try this ! 8) :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:53 pm 
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ycg wrote:
Well, this clears up everything.

I would still like to propose they add the belts I suggested :lol:
How about if you get a WWE belt with your WBO belt :lol: Mayweather can try this ! 8) :lol:


That's a good idea but only Mayweather fits the bill, so that'll be more like a strap-on than a belt :lol:
because he's too afraid to face Cotto or Margarito anyway. :bounce1:

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Grammar_Stalker wrote:
devondenom wrote:
All I know is that WBA is not as prestigious as WBC, WBO and IBF but perhaps more acknowledged than IBO and WBF. But yes, I'm confused with the WBA belt held by campbell which is supposedly a ligitimate WBA lightweight title and not regional. Perhaps some boxing experts or enthusiasts here in pacland know the technicallity. Anyone? I wish quinito henson is on this forum


Here's how the WBA goes with its championship belts. If the WBA champion acquires another belt from the WBC, IBF and/or WBO then the "regular" WBA title is vacated. Here's how the WBA defines them:
  • If the WBA champ has one more belt (2 total) - Unified Champion
  • If the WBA champ has two more belts (3 total) - Undisputed Champion
  • All 4 belts - Super Champion

Currently, there are 4 WBA "non-regular" champions:
  • David Haye - WBA Unified Cruiserweight champ (with WBO; was Undisputed since March 2008 until he relinquished the WBC a couple of weeks ago; Firat Arslan of Germany is the "regular" champ
  • Joe Clazaghe - WBA Undisputed Super Middleweight champ (wih WBC & WBO); Anthony Mundine of Australia is the "regular" champ
  • Nate Campbell - WBA Undisputed Lightweight champ (with WBO & IBF); Yusuke Kobori of Japan just won the "regular" title from Nicaragua's Jose Alfaro last weekend
  • Christian Mijares - WBA Unified Super Flyweight champ (with WBC); the vacant "regular" title will be the one AJ Banal is going for

Hope that answers your question devondenom. For more info, look at the attached link. That is the WBA World Championships Regulations document. In page 13 you'll find the same thing I mentioned above. From page 9 to 13 you'll get more details.
http://www.wbaonline.com/legal/LegalSta ... nships.pdf


I got a question long time ago when Jermaine Taylor was undisputed champion and he fight hopkins instead of Abraham the IBF was stripped and why did the WBA strip him with his super champ belt if he still have his two belts the WBC and WBA?

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:16 pm 
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Grammar_Stalker wrote:
devondenom wrote:
All I know is that WBA is not as prestigious as WBC, WBO and IBF but perhaps more acknowledged than IBO and WBF. But yes, I'm confused with the WBA belt held by campbell which is supposedly a ligitimate WBA lightweight title and not regional. Perhaps some boxing experts or enthusiasts here in pacland know the technicallity. Anyone? I wish quinito henson is on this forum


Here's how the WBA goes with its championship belts. If the WBA champion acquires another belt from the WBC, IBF and/or WBO then the "regular" WBA title is vacated. Here's how the WBA defines them:
  • If the WBA champ has one more belt (2 total) - Unified Champion
  • If the WBA champ has two more belts (3 total) - Undisputed Champion
  • All 4 belts - Super Champion

Currently, there are 4 WBA "non-regular" champions:
  • David Haye - WBA Unified Cruiserweight champ (with WBO; was Undisputed since March 2008 until he relinquished the WBC a couple of weeks ago; Firat Arslan of Germany is the "regular" champ
  • Joe Clazaghe - WBA Undisputed Super Middleweight champ (wih WBC & WBO); Anthony Mundine of Australia is the "regular" champ
  • Nate Campbell - WBA Undisputed Lightweight champ (with WBO & IBF); Yusuke Kobori of Japan just won the "regular" title from Nicaragua's Jose Alfaro last weekend
  • Christian Mijares - WBA Unified Super Flyweight champ (with WBC); the vacant "regular" title will be the one AJ Banal is going for

Hope that answers your question devondenom. For more info, look at the attached link. That is the WBA World Championships Regulations document. In page 13 you'll find the same thing I mentioned above. From page 9 to 13 you'll get more details.
http://www.wbaonline.com/legal/LegalSta ... nships.pdf



Grammar_Stalker thanks for the clarification!!


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Dagul_Denboy wrote:
I got a question long time ago when Jermaine Taylor was undisputed champion and he fight hopkins instead of Abraham the IBF was stripped and why did the WBA strip him with his super champ belt if he still have his two belts the WBC and WBA?


The Jermaine Taylor case was confusing not because of why he was stripped but more on when he was stripped. This might require further clarification from boxing experts who are more familiar with this case than me.

A specially classified champion (unified, undisputed or super champion) when stripped of any of the belts for not defending his title against the mandatory challenger, loses their special classification from WBA as well. Yeah, I know that's not fair but I assume they have a reason for that. Then, the WBA belt will be stripped as well if they don't defend it in 120 days. It seems like he was given more than 120 days until he was finally stripped. He retaines his WBO and WBC belt until losing it Kelly Pavlik last year.

The document I attached earlier will probably explain it better. See page 12.

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